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Old 06-16-2005, 07:26 PM   #1
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Open Letter to Vince McMahon
I found this on world-wrestling.net a few minutes ago and read it. Its a letter that someone wrote to Vince McMahon about having his signs taken during the Raw show on monday.

sorry that its all in one big paragraph...thats the way it was on the website

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The following was sent in to 1Wrestling.com from Jeff Lorenc:

My name is Jeff Lorenc, I am writing an open letter to Vince McMahon and the WWE. Last night I attended the RAW show in Binghamton NY. I had 5th row on the floor (First row of risers on the floor). I was all over TV with my pink shirt and my signs. However, I felt violated as an American last night. I made signs that said "RUCK CENA" (The Cena shirt that says RUCK FULES) and "WE CAN'T SEE CENA... THANK GOD!". You could see these during the match. After the first commercial break sometime if you have RAW video taped, the signs disappear. I had a WWE guy wearing a RAW polo shirt walk by and without even looking at me or stopping literally rip the signs out of my hand and said "I'll be taking these". Everyone in my section was stunned as to why WWE would take these signs. Me now P.O.'ed decided to voice my opinion about how Triple H is hogging all the time on RAW and held up my "PUSH HHH" sign, knowing they would take it. That can be seen on camera. After the first commercial break before Tomko gets tagged in, you can see me jump off the bleachers. The WWE guy again ripped the sign out of my hands and told me to come with him. He pulled me off camera and told me that if he has to take one more sign from me, he would place me on the other side of the camera in the corner where no one could see me. (There were lots of empty seats in the arena on the camera side. The place was NOT sold out like they claimed). I then asked him what was wrong with my signs. I said they were not in bad taste and had no bad words on there and they did have to do with wrestling. His only response was "They don't want them in the back". I asked him what was approperate he said "If you don't know what is then don't hold any up". I am a HUGE Christian fan, and i can't stand Cena that's why I made the anti-Cena signs. To have the WWE rip the signs out of my hands with no explanation is totally wrong. The WWE always preaches freedom of speech, and they claim to listen to us fans, well how can we voice our opinions if they keep doing this? Why did the WWE not take my # 1 PEEPS sign that I held up for Christian? I BOO AND CHEER FOR WHO I WANT, NOT WHO YOU TELL ME TO WWE. Why didn't WWE take away the newspapers the whole second row put in front of their faces and read during the Master's segment (Funny stuff). Congratulations Vince and company, I was planning on giving you $150 + for ringside Great American Bash seats and $40 + for SmackDown! seats two nights later. After last night, I will NEVER attend another WWE event. You screwed me last night Vince, now SCREW YOU!

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Old 06-16-2005, 07:34 PM   #2
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Old 06-16-2005, 07:35 PM   #3
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Oh fuck, now whenever the WWE is in Binghamton the fans are going to chant 'You Screwed Jeff' every time Vince is in the ring.
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Old 06-16-2005, 07:39 PM   #4
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Oh fuck, now whenever the WWE is in Canada the fans are going to chant 'You Screwed Bret' every time anyone who isn't Canadian is in the ring.
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Old 06-16-2005, 07:43 PM   #5
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You know, if the internet was huge back in 97, I bet that would have been one of the first screwjob threads.
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Old 06-16-2005, 07:51 PM   #6
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lol, I did see that 'RUCK CENA' sign on Raw... Never realized they took it from the guy.
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Old 06-18-2005, 05:31 PM   #7
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lol, I did see that 'RUCK CENA' sign on Raw... Never realized they took it from the guy.
i saw that too.
i thought it was pretty cool.. since i can't stand cena either.
but i remember that even cena's "Ruck Fules" shirt and cap used to be distorted on national television, maybe that's why they took that sign away.
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Old 06-18-2005, 05:43 PM   #8
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i saw that too.
i thought it was pretty cool.. since i can't stand cena either.
but i remember that even cena's "Ruck Fules" shirt and cap used to be distorted on national television, maybe that's why they took that sign away.
Used to be. On Network. They're on cable now. I severely doubt they'll censore "Ruck fules."
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Old 06-18-2005, 05:45 PM   #9
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Used to be. On Network. They're on cable now. I severely doubt they'll censore "Ruck fules."
Come on, this is coming from the company that censor 'gutterslut'
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Old 06-18-2005, 09:28 PM   #10
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Used to be. On Network. They're on cable now. I severely doubt they'll censore "Ruck fules."
Ruck Fules got blurred?

Gay. Never noticed that...
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Old 06-16-2005, 07:52 PM   #11
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he was wearing pink and therefore loses all credibility
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Old 06-16-2005, 08:02 PM   #12
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Nothing new.
It's kind of gay that WWE still does this though.
Not nearly as gay as reportedly putting "Rocky" chants over the P.A. during an RVD match. (I noticed in The Rock's Just Bring It! video, they had toned down the RVD chants..)
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Old 06-16-2005, 08:11 PM   #14
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I hate fans with signs.

I hope the WWE outlaws signs.
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Old 06-16-2005, 08:43 PM   #16
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If any signs should be taken down or away it's the one's that make absolutely no sense or have anything to do with wrestling. People cant see or get their views blocked by those gay ass signs.

Example: "I steal sheep." wtf.

Or...Hi stacy

or You screwed Matt. Fuck Matt, he's no longer relevant.
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Old 06-16-2005, 09:57 PM   #17
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Who cares about those signs? The only sign that mattered on Raw was the "Woooooo" which strecthed around three corners of the ring.
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Old 06-16-2005, 10:18 PM   #18
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If I was sitting behind this guy and he was holding his sign up . I'd walk by and grab it out of his hands then beat the piss out of him with it. Because obviously I wouldnt be able to see.
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Old 06-16-2005, 10:20 PM   #19
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BTW . I dont think they can move you from your seat. If they did that to someone. I think that could be a major lawsuit. If not. It should be.
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Old 06-16-2005, 10:45 PM   #20
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BTW . I dont think they can move you from your seat. If they did that to someone. I think that could be a major lawsuit. If not. It should be.
They have the right to eject you, but moving you to a seat where you couldn't be disruptive would be a major lawsuit?
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Old 06-16-2005, 11:14 PM   #21
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They can make up any shit they want to get you out of the seat.

The whole taking signs away thing is an old story by now, I kinda shocked this guy was shocked the WWE took the signs from him.

Personally I think its stupid that WWE takes signs away. I mean I kind understand removing signs with bad language, but to remove signs because they dont fit with the current direction of the storyline is quite absurd.

So what if some people think John Cena sucks? The fact of the matter is that kid paid money to see John Cena and John Cena and the WWE will profit from him going to the show to let the WWE and John Cena know that he thinks Cena sucks.

I dont really believe this kid will boycott over that, but there might be some people who will. And why you would risk a ticket sale at a time when its more and more difficult to get people in the arena is beyond me.

I mean Vince must think people sit at home and are ready to cheer for John Cena, then see a sign that says "Ruck Cena" and all of a sudden that will make them say "well if someone dislikes Cena, that means I should too, and now I'm not going to the next WWE event". Its the only logical explanation for removing the signs.

I would think it owuld work the opposite way. Some kid who thinks Cena is the best ever, will see that other guys anti-Cena sign, and be mtivated to go out and buy some cardboard and markers and make a "John Cena Rucking Fules" sign.

Vince needs to lighten up.

BTW, writing an "open letter" to Vince is pretty gay.
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Old 06-17-2005, 12:36 PM   #22
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The whole taking signs away thing is an old story by now, I kinda shocked this guy was shocked the WWE took the signs from him.

Personally I think its stupid that WWE takes signs away. I mean I kind understand removing signs with bad language, but to remove signs because they dont fit with the current direction of the storyline is quite absurd.
Especially since you consider, a mass of signs and chants disparaging a supposed fan-favorite named "Rocky" several years ago lead to the creation of one of the funniest, and most famous faces ever seen in WWE.

Yeah, WWE is technically, the only game in town, as far as what's on TV. It gives them the license to be assholes about this, but really, when you have no competition in sight, is it really necessary to edit crowd reactions, steal signs, and what have you? It's not like the fans you pissed off, or the people that don't cheer your fan favorites going to run to the imaginary "WCW" promotion because one or two people think HHH rules, or John Cena sucks.

What I'd like to know is what sparked this whole line of behavior. WWE didn't always do such things (though I suspect the home video of Wrestlemania 13 was edited, based on Rock's own account of how many times and how loudly "Rocky Sucks" was chanted during his match with The Sultan)....
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Old 06-17-2005, 03:29 PM   #23
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when you have no competition in sight, is it really necessary to edit crowd reactions, steal signs, and what have you?
Do they have to?

No.

But they can choose to.

It doesn't make sense, but it doesn't HAVE to make sense.

Personally, I don't think it's gonna make much difference if people see a sign on TV that's anti-Cena. However, the "Ruck Cena" one you could make an argument for, just because of the TV broadcast and the RCC. They tried to downplay Christian's pops, no effect. Tried to downplay Lita's heat, no effect.

And YET, one loser with a sign is going to change the world of wrestling forever?
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Old 06-16-2005, 10:44 PM   #24
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Old 06-17-2005, 12:53 AM   #25
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They take signs that voices one's opinion...

Yet they air signs like "Free Camel Parking" and "Hassan 7:11".

What the fuck?
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Right after he said "sand" I thought "nigger" was coming.
Boy, he'd STILL get popped.
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Old 06-17-2005, 01:28 AM   #32
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Old 06-17-2005, 01:35 AM   #33
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Boy, he'd STILL get popped.
Some people DO have morals.
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Old 06-17-2005, 01:41 AM   #34
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Some people DO have morals.
Some do.

Generally, they aren't wrestling fans.
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Old 06-17-2005, 01:35 AM   #35
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No wait, that's Canada...........


































































































Sinners..
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Old 06-17-2005, 01:43 AM   #36
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I have morals though...
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wait, are morals those things some people paint on walls?
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Old 06-17-2005, 01:58 AM   #38
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No, you moron. That's a mirage.
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Old 06-17-2005, 02:19 AM   #39
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I thought that's what you see when you're in the desert or whatever
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That's an homage.
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