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Old 02-07-2006, 08:03 AM   #1
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My complete disdain for anything Next Generation
Okay, so I wasn't sure whether I should even post this or not, but after reading ANOTHER snide and snotty comment from another Next Generation cast member, I had to vent. Just for the record, this is my obligatory Star Trek complaining mode.

Okay, I love Star Trek(the Original Series). Always have, and always will until the day I croak. I love(d) Enterprise for the four glorious years it was on. A truly underrated program that was treated like pure shit by Paramount, UPN and Brannon Braga/Rick Berman(translation, those guys who hate everything about the Original Series). Enterprise truly captured the magic and adventure of the Original Series like TNG, DS9 and Voyager could only dream to do.

Over the course of so many years, I have come to completely despise and hate every member of that TNG crew(except for Stewart, I can't hate him) and cast. They hold their show in such high-esteem like it's God's fucking gift to Star Trek. Put it on a pedastal like it's the fucking Ark Of The Covenant.

The cast of TNG are nothing but arrogant, self important, fucktwit, assholes(again, save for Stewart).

Not to mention how Paramount, Braga/Berman completely screwed Enterprise of any chance of having a good send-off, then act upset in interviews that it never got one. That was supposed to be Enterprise's fucking good-bye, not TNG's. It had a goodbye. Granted, that piece of shit show shouldn't have even lasted as long as it did, but whatever. Instead of giving them a great final episode, they call that fat-ass Frakes who looks like he just got done eating a starship in along with that ugly, untalented slut, Sirtis, to just completely shit all over what Enterprise had done for four years. Instead of it being called "Star Trek: Enterprise", you could have easily changed it to "Star Trek: The Next Generation", and I couldn't have even told the difference.

And don't even get me started on Deep Space Nine and Voyager.

So, in closing, fuck The Next Generation. Fuck Voyager. Fuck Deep Space Nine, and fuck Paramount. There.

I'm sorry, but after reading a snotty LeVar Burton comment, I just snapped into my "TNG must die" mode. But if anyone here actually knows what the hell I'm bitching and complaining about, discuss.
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Old 02-07-2006, 04:54 PM   #2
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lol Star Trek. Wasn't TNG like the most successful or something after the original? Must have been doing something right. Dunno I'm not a Trekkie. Enjoy some of the movies though.

But creators and/or execs fuck(ed) with some of my favorite shows too. You're not alone.
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Old 02-07-2006, 05:30 PM   #3
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TNG is the only Star Trek I have found to be entertaining.
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Old 02-07-2006, 05:45 PM   #4
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TNG is the most milked series out of them all, the only reason I have begun to hate it is because its so over exposed.
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Old 02-08-2006, 01:30 AM   #5
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Yes Star Trek: Nemesis was a shitty way to end the franchise.
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Old 02-09-2006, 08:16 PM   #6
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I love (present tense, Thank you Sky One) TNG.

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Old 02-26-2006, 11:23 PM   #7
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The thing that pisses me off about the TNG movies was they didn't have Q.

Q was the man.
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Old 02-26-2006, 11:33 PM   #8
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While I respect Roddenberry on an intellectual level, I find almost all of his shows to be crap. The man knew his shit in terms of actual science, but ToS is pure cheese, TNG is like LotR, DS9's only success came from nicking Bab 5, and Enterprise was so shitty it had to rely on Vulcan boobies.

I liked the movies with the original cast (Don't ask me why I like them and not ToS), and sorta liked Voyager. Some of the actors in the various series' have been decent too.

Q was interesting (moreso than the rest of the series put together), but really, saying TNG wasn't all that good isn't saying much.
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THOSE WHO FUCK WITH READING RAINBOW WILL INFACT BE FUCKED!
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Old 02-27-2006, 12:33 AM   #10
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THOSE WHO FUCK WITH READING RAINBOW WILL INFACT BE FUCKED!
Guess he's refering to Levar Burton AKA Gordi Laforge.

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Old 02-27-2006, 03:10 AM   #11
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Fuck Levar Burton and Reading Rainbow.

And fuck KK, too.
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Old 02-27-2006, 05:52 PM   #12
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Star Trek is amazing. That's one thing I know I can watch if i'm really tired and I would never fall asleep.
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Old 02-27-2006, 06:02 PM   #13
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Star Trek sucks. That is all.
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Old 02-27-2006, 07:39 PM   #14
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TNG > DS9 > Voyager > Original > Enterprise.

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Original movies > TNG movies
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Old 02-27-2006, 10:04 PM   #15
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TNG & DS9 > All other series's of Star Trek.
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Old 02-27-2006, 11:15 PM   #16
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TOS>Enterprise>Cancer>Next Generation>Sodomized by KK>DS9>President Bush>Voyager

That sounds about right to me.
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Old 02-27-2006, 11:18 PM   #17
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Being sodmised by KK isn't all that bad. You hardly feel it, and it's over in 3-4 seconds.
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Old 02-28-2006, 01:33 AM   #18
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Being sodmised by KK isn't all that bad. You hardly feel it, and it's over in 3-4 seconds.
It's still better than Deep Space Nine, Voyager and President Bush.

And Q is the only good thing to come out of TNG.
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Old 03-03-2006, 06:04 PM   #19
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It's still better than Deep Space Nine, Voyager and President Bush.
Mostly because it's over in 3-4 seconds, so you don't have time to wish you hadn't come...OR had, as the case may be...
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Old 02-28-2006, 01:20 AM   #20
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The thing I wonder about Q is what he really is.

Is he a god or just close to it?
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Old 03-03-2006, 06:09 PM   #21
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The thing I wonder about Q is what he really is.

Is he a god or just close to it?
Q are basically hyperevolved beings. They touched on this in at least TNG and Voyager, I don't know about other ones. Think Ancients (Stargate), only as we don't really know what the limits are to either, it's difficult to really judge how apt the comparison is.

On the other hand, anyone with that much power is going to look like a fucking God regardless.
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Q is in fact.... Mr. Myxzptlk.
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The Doctor was a good character. He was one of the better actors too, to appear in the Star Trek series.
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The Doctor was a good character. He was one of the better actors too, to appear in the Star Trek series.
Picardo f'ing rocks.

The character was also strong.
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Wasn't The Doctor a hologram? I've only seen like 2 episodes of Voyager.
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Wasn't The Doctor a hologram? I've only seen like 2 episodes of Voyager.
Yeah, he was the EMH, designed for when the doctor from a ship was indisposed. Very cool character, in a sort of "I want to hit this guy in the face so much it's awesome!" Sorta way.
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Yeah, he was the EMH, designed for when the doctor from a ship was indisposed. Very cool character, in a sort of "I want to hit this guy in the face so much it's awesome!" Sorta way.
Yea I loved The Doctor, Although I spent most of my time while watching Voyager going between wanting to stab Neelix with a sharp object and drooling over Robert Duncan McNeill (give me a break I was teenage girl).

Enterprise, I started watching for Captain Quantum *cough* I mean Captain Archer, and then Porthos. By the end I had grown found of Hoshi, decided that Archer needed an Al, grown to hate Vulcans.

Deep Sleep Nine never did grow on me, although I did enjoy bits and pieces of it's final season.

TNG, sigh, Troi, Riker, Picard (I have grown to appricate Patrick Stewart as I've aged) and Crusher (only because she played of Picard well) are the only ones I could stand. *attempts to stab Brent Spiner with a pen*

TOS, I have issues with Willian Shatner, I can't stand the guy, I use to have a reason, but I'm beyond remembering it. This also lead to me not being able to sit though any of the TOS movies, which leads to Star Trek: First Contact being my favourite of the Trek movies.

Q Ruled.
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Yea I loved The Doctor, Although I spent most of my time while watching Voyager going between wanting to stab Neelix with a sharp object and drooling over Robert Duncan McNeill (give me a break I was teenage girl).
Least you wanted to stab him with something snarp...I wanted to stab him with a bowling ball.

Then we got 7 of 9, and I wondered what the fuck my problem with Neelix was. He suddenly seemed so...Tolerable. Robert Duncan McNeil...He was Paris, no? I loved the character, wasn't too fond of his looks though.

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Enterprise, I started watching for Captain Quantum *cough* I mean Captain Archer, and then Porthos. By the end I had grown found of Hoshi, decided that Archer needed an Al, grown to hate Vulcans.
Such a dumb show. Archer was a shite captain, and there were maybe four people on hat show that didn't make me want to suicide bomb Paramount.

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Deep Sleep Nine never did grow on me, although I did enjoy bits and pieces of it's final season.
A poor man's Bab 5, really. I never watched it, though I liked two of the newer species. The shifters (whatever they were called) and The Goa'uld...Errr...The symbiotic critters.

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You have a much better tolerance then me.

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TOS, I have issues with Willian Shatner, I can't stand the guy, I use to have a reason, but I'm beyond remembering it. This also lead to me not being able to sit though any of the TOS movies, which leads to Star Trek: First Contact being my favourite of the Trek movies.
Shatner was shit. The amazing thing was how many good actors were on that show. The only thin gthat makes it at all watchable is that the support characters could act better than Shatner.

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Least you wanted to stab him with something snarp...I wanted to stab him with a bowling ball.
There are these clicker things that are like crabs in Stephen King's 'The Dark Tower' series, except they eat people, I would like to feed Neelix to them.

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Then we got 7 of 9, and I wondered what the fuck my problem with Neelix was. He suddenly seemed so...Tolerable. Robert Duncan McNeil...He was Paris, no? I loved the character, wasn't too fond of his looks though.
7 of 9 annoyed me simply because she took screen time off The Doctor and then towards the end all that 7/Chakotay crap, even one knows it should have been Janeway/Chakotay

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Such a dumb show. Archer was a shite captain, and there were maybe four people on hat show that didn't make me want to suicide bomb Paramount.
You are right Archer was a crap captain, but T'Pol was like the worst First Officer in the history of anything. *insert Vulcan hate here*. I kinda liked Reed & Mayweather, but it's sad that I can say the dog was my favorite character.


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A poor man's Bab 5, really. I never watched it, though I liked two of the newer species. The shifters (whatever they were called) and The Goa'uld...Errr...The symbiotic critters.
Bab 5 Stargate Stargate dispite the change in cast (I do miss Jack, but I love Ben Browder enough to not mind too much) remains one of my favorite shows on TV.

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I kept hoping he would show up on Enterprise, I'm not sure what he would have done, but it would have been good. Meanwhile the 3 eps (I think that's how many he was in) he was in of Voyager remain my favorites.

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He was better than Data at the whole "data" route though.
The thing about Data was that it always somehow (esp in the movies) ended up about Data . Same goes for 7 of 9.
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That was definately the best Enterprise.
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A little off subject but this reminded me of a movie I think you and all TOS fans would like, Free Enterprise. It's basically a Romantic comedy movie made by Sci-Fi lovers/fan for Sci-Fi lovers/fans. The movie is filled with references dealing with Sci-Fi. Also it stars William Shatner. I really think you'll enjoy it if you are such a big TOS fan. Let me know if you check it out, be interested to see what you think of it.
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The Doctor was best in the first few episodes when he a bit of a dick to everyone. In the last few seasons when every other episode seemed to be about the Doctor becoming more "real" , seemed like a bit of a Data retread.
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The Doctor was best in the first few episodes when he a bit of a dick to everyone. In the last few seasons when every other episode seemed to be about the Doctor becoming more "real" , seemed like a bit of a Data retread.
He was better than Data at the whole "data" route though.
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Robert Picardo was a real good actor that played a real interesting character. Too bad the show itself was so bland.
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