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Old 05-04-2006, 01:42 PM   #1
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According to Meltzer...it's final. *One Night Stand 2 Spoilers*
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According to Dave Meltzer, the decision is final and John Cena will be Rob Van Dam’s opponent in the main event match at the ECW One Night Stand PPV this June.

Apparently WWE will be using this opportunity to officially turn John Cena heel after being booed by fans for months. It also appears that this will be when RVD will cash in his “Money In The Bank” title shot, thus indicating that Cena will continue to retain the WWE Heavyweight Championship. credit: Wrestling Observer


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Old 05-04-2006, 01:43 PM   #2
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Old 05-04-2006, 01:43 PM   #3
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If Cena walks out of ONS with the title, he won't make it out of the Hammerstein Ballroom
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Old 05-04-2006, 03:02 PM   #4
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If Cena walks out of ONS with the title, he won't make it out of the Hammerstein Ballroom
He'll go down faster than Vince in the Impact! Zone.
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Old 05-04-2006, 03:05 PM   #5
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Yer damn fucking right....
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Old 05-04-2006, 01:45 PM   #7
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Maybe that's the plan?
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Old 05-04-2006, 01:45 PM   #8
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See where as I see that it would be ok here to lean away from the JBL vs RVD match or the RVD vs Mysterio match, that's fine. But even if they do turn Cena heel, especially since it will be in the confines of The Ballroom where fans will be able to do basically whatever they want, could they actually let Cena retain . Would it make sense, because personally I believe that it would kill RVD's credibility. To lose an ECW match, in his title match, would kill it.
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I seriosuly hope Cena wins.
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RVD wins at ONS, loses at Summerslam.

That'd be my guess.
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Old 05-04-2006, 01:50 PM   #11
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What if everyone at ONS totally cheers Cena and boos RVD...just to fuck with everyone's brain. If there was one group of wrestling fans who would do something like that...

But no seriously, I am salivating at the idea of the heat Cena will get. Win, lose, or draw, Cena may be close to getting Lawler ECW heat...oh god...oh god...WWE just secured my PPV money.
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Old 05-04-2006, 01:50 PM   #12
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for Cena to go over as a Heel, he'd have to Retain.
This is still a shitty situation. Hopefully RVD can DRAG a match out of him =/
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Cena will do everything to retain, I just know it. He'll hit an FU off the top, put Van Dam through tables and call in some of his WWE buddies. But it'll come down to Van Dam hitting a Van Terminator followed by a Five Star.

Cena will get the most heat anyone has gotten in YEARS, especially because at least 2/3rd of the fans will be Smarks and the rest will be marks who think they love ECW.
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Old 05-04-2006, 02:36 PM   #14
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I think that Cena should go into ONS as face, lose the title and then turn on RVD at the end.

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Old 05-04-2006, 03:08 PM   #15
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I REALLY HOPE Cena over plays his heel heat in the ballroom. Wonder how they're gonna turn him.

I say Heyman should make a fat swerve, aligning with Cena and the WWE.
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Old 05-04-2006, 03:15 PM   #16
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is he gonna turn heel before or at the PPV?

the next night on RAW should be even better

usually storylines in the summer are good. I can see this being a great summer
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Old 05-04-2006, 03:56 PM   #17
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it makes so much more sense for RVD to face JBL for the title. then again this IS the WWE... common sense is not a job requirement.
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Old 05-04-2006, 04:00 PM   #18
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it makes so much more sense for RVD to face JBL for the title. then again this IS the WWE... common sense is not a job requirement.
but in the eyes of an ECW fan, Cena is pretty much the biggest enemy.
He's the shitty Gimmick Wrestler shoved down our throats.
Him turning at ONS would make him an Uber Heel.
and would Solidify RVD as not only a major face,
but also makes him a Legit Main Event guy.
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but in the eyes of an ECW fan, Cena is pretty much the biggest enemy.
He's the shitty Gimmick Wrestler shoved down our throats.
Hell yeah. There was a big "Fuck John Cena" chant at the first ONS.

I've been hoping for this ever since RVD won the MITB. That atmosphere will be INCREDIBLE!
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Old 05-04-2006, 04:00 PM   #20
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oh man. POOR JC. If he walks out alive winner or loser I will be astounded.

But my guess is it's gunna end in some insane spot and the ppv will both end with neither of them getting up.
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Old 05-04-2006, 04:23 PM   #21
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Is ONS before or after the next RAW PPV? I can't remember for sure off the top of my head, but I have it mentally listed as after.
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Old 05-04-2006, 04:29 PM   #22
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Old 05-04-2006, 04:32 PM   #23
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One Night Stand is shaping up to be pretty good. Now load it up with caliber matches, and I'm sold on the other 50%. The news now has half my money.
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Old 05-04-2006, 05:27 PM   #24
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If John Cena walks out of ONS with the title he'll leave Hammerstein Ballroom just fine with nobody in the crowd even touching him.
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I think RVD will win the title and, Shane Douglas style, throw it down and declare himself the new ECW World Champion, leaving the WWE title for Triple H to regain it.

It was the whole Shane scenario with the NWA that kick-started EXTREME Championship Wrestling back in the day. Maybe history is about to repeat itself? It will certainly seem controversial to the casual/newer fans who never saw the original angle, and help get ECW over as a rebel entity.
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I think RVD will win the title and, Shane Douglas style, throw it down and declare himself the new ECW World Champion, leaving the WWE title for Triple H to regain it.

It was the whole Shane scenario with the NWA that kick-started EXTREME Championship Wrestling back in the day. Maybe history is about to repeat itself? It will certainly seem controversial to the casual/newer fans who never saw the original angle, and help get ECW over as a rebel entity.

That thought crossed my mind as well. What better way to kick off the return of ECW and setup a WWE vs ECW feud.
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Old 05-04-2006, 06:54 PM   #29
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Now, Cena has low work ethic, no mic skills and bad in - ring skills. RVD has gone through major changes since joining the WATERED-DOWN KING OF WRESTLING, the WWE... ...WWE running ECW shows sounds bad, since of course, it will be a web show for the time being, and why? Because they don't wanna stop running AM RAW!?

ECW will NEVER be the same again, no matter what! Corino never wants to come back, because even he knows the trash WWE created of ECW's legacy... ...I know I should just take ECW for what it'll be worth, but to see what I and so many others have that Vince has done to the reputations of those great wrestlers of ECW is horridly gross...

I miss the REAL ECW. I only wish that this return proves worth it...

Again, I would not mind watching Cena & RVD go head to head, but to let Cena retain the title at ONS seems a bit disrespectful to the fans that made ECW, those same fans who helped shaped and form the way Pro Wrestling would be viewed for years to come.

Vince says the fans are important, when he truly thinks of us as sheep. Well, fuck you Vince McMahon: I will enjoy and hate whom I want to hate whenever I want to (IE: Trying so hard to shove whom we can and cannot like down our throats)...

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So what are you then, my leftovers?
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So what are you then, my leftovers?
Nope. I seem to be a lot more than you'll ever be from the looks of it.

You just might be the gum under my shoes, fuckface...
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Nope. I seem to be a lot more than you'll ever be from the looks of it.

You just might be the gum under my shoes, fuckface...
He called me fuckface.

I haven't been called that since... well... ever. My ambition to achieve something new everyday has been fulfilled. What a great day!

May the 4th be with you.
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Old 05-06-2006, 03:27 AM   #33
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Now, Cena has low work ethic, no mic skills and bad in - ring skills.

Sorry but I read that and tuned out, I am so sick of the its cool too bash Cena bandwagon and TBH that is one of the stupidest comments I have ever seen made on these boards...
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Sorry but I read that and tuned out, I am so sick of the its cool too bash Cena bandwagon and TBH that is one of the stupidest comments I have ever seen made on these boards...
What's real funny is that "I" been been following Cena since his days as the Prototype, and have been HATING on him since then.

"NEVER" did I jump on some so - called bandwagon.

Now, what's REAL STUPID is your comment, since you... ...of course have no clue as to whom I enjoy and do not enjoy.

CENA SUCKS. He has from day one. He had a great start when he was writing his own raps, but that's about it. He sucks.

Oh yeah... ...He might just be worse than X Pac. No wait! Worse and lamer than - nope. Can't get much worse than X Pac...
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What's real funny is that "I" been been following Cena since his days as the Prototype, and have been HATING on him since then.

"NEVER" did I jump on some so - called bandwagon.

Now, what's REAL STUPID is your comment, since you... ...of course have no clue as to whom I enjoy and do not enjoy.

CENA SUCKS. He has from day one. He had a great start when he was writing his own raps, but that's about it. He sucks.

Oh yeah... ...He might just be worse than X Pac. No wait! Worse and lamer than - nope. Can't get much worse than X Pac...

Whether or not you jumped the bandwagon or not has nothing to do with the comment you made. I was merely assuming you were a bandwagon jumper (which even if you were you would not admit too).

As it is saying the guy has no in ring skill at all, no mic skills and no work ethic is complete and utter bullshit. His ring work while limited at the moment is far from shit, I have a real tough job faulting the guys effort (in or out of the ring) and even his most vement of detrators cant help but admit the guy is nothing if not 100% commited too the business.

Then again, you would know better being an Indy big wig and all while the guy who put him there only runs the most successful wrestling company in the history of Wrestling.

My bad...
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Whether or not you jumped the bandwagon or not has nothing to do with the comment you made. I was merely assuming you were a bandwagon jumper (which even if you were you would not admit too).

As it is saying the guy has no in ring skill at all, no mic skills and no work ethic is complete and utter bullshit. His ring work while limited at the moment is far from shit, I have a real tough job faulting the guys effort (in or out of the ring) and even his most vement of detrators cant help but admit the guy is nothing if not 100% commited too the business.

Then again, you would know better being an Indy big wig and all while the guy who put him there only runs the most successful wrestling company in the history of Wrestling.

My bad...
There 'ya go. No sweat, buddy...
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What's real funny is that "I" been been following Cena since his days as the Prototype, and have been HATING on him since then.

"NEVER" did I jump on some so - called bandwagon.

Now, what's REAL STUPID is your comment, since you... ...of course have no clue as to whom I enjoy and do not enjoy.

CENA SUCKS. He has from day one. He had a great start when he was writing his own raps, but that's about it. He sucks.

Oh yeah... ...He might just be worse than X Pac. No wait! Worse and lamer than - nope. Can't get much worse than X Pac...

Okay, this I have to argue with. While John Cena may not be the best in-ring performer in the world, nor is he the best technical wrestler, nor is he the most charismatic by any means, he does not "SUCK."

Mark Henry? He sucks. Recently, The Undertaker has sucked. Chris Masters sucks. How can you say that John Cena sucks in the light of so much sucktitude in the WWE?

His days in OVW as The Prototype aren't neccesarily very good measures of how good Cena can be in the ring, considering OVW is where GREEN wrestlers train to become better. His matches with Kurt Angle and Chris Jericho were brilliant when he debuted, and while both Angle and Jericho can pull a great match out of a lot of stinkers, Cena contributed just as much to those matches as they did.

His current gimmick does really suck because they're pushing him as a "street fighter" instead of a "professional wrestler" which he really is. They replaced his awesome Throwback move, yet they kept the Five Knuckle Shuffle. The WWE are idiots when it comes to booking Cena, and that truly does suck.
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Okay, this I have to argue with. While John Cena may not be the best in-ring performer in the world, nor is he the best technical wrestler, nor is he the most charismatic by any means, he does not "SUCK."

Mark Henry? He sucks. Recently, The Undertaker has sucked. Chris Masters sucks. How can you say that John Cena sucks in the light of so much sucktitude in the WWE?

His days in OVW as The Prototype aren't neccesarily very good measures of how good Cena can be in the ring, considering OVW is where GREEN wrestlers train to become better. His matches with Kurt Angle and Chris Jericho were brilliant when he debuted, and while both Angle and Jericho can pull a great match out of a lot of stinkers, Cena contributed just as much to those matches as they did.

His current gimmick does really suck because they're pushing him as a "street fighter" instead of a "professional wrestler" which he really is. They replaced his awesome Throwback move, yet they kept the Five Knuckle Shuffle. The WWE are idiots when it comes to booking Cena, and that truly does suck.
Yeah, his gimmick is being ripped apart by the writiers, I agree, but "I" represent one voice, my own, just as any other member on this forum.

I personally think he sucks, and this is from what "I" have seen and since my times following his career. If you ever read my other posts, you'd see that I believed that at one point, he was going onward through a great character, and it was because he still had some control over his own character.

Now that the writers are in control, he's on a downfall. Do I think he would've done better had he continued on his own accord? His own raps, ryhmes and promos? Yeas, I do.

I know for a fact that the writers fuck everything up, and so does Vince. It's the fact that he is trying to hard to shove Cena down my throat that gets me pissed. Cena is playing the role of a dog, following strict orders and becoming the next Mr. T (1800 Collect) all over his entire body and soul...

I know Henry sucks, I know as of late Undertaker sucks, because he can't cut it anymore. The "WALKER TEXAS 'TAKER" gimmick sucks, and again, I blame that on the writers.

John Cena sucks, because he allows himself to drown in the pool of bad gimmicks, fairy tales and utter bullshit. I truly wish I could look every Monday night and watch him do his own thing, but I can't... ...and that sucks.

And yeah, Cena sucks. Cena sucks for his in ring skills, he's slow and highly predictable. In each and every match, I already know I'll see an STFU, and FU, a five knuckle shuffle and his "YOU CAN'T SEE ME ROUTINE", hear him say "WANT SOME, COME GET SOME!" and even watch him win matches in poor fashion (EX: Backlash 2006)...

Cena sucks because he embodies all that is wrong with the business. You have guys like Bret Hart get their legacy ripped and shit on, because such fucks like Cena can make it to the top by merley riding and banking on five year olds. Bret, Hogan, Blassie, Macho King, and so many others worked their asses off not only to earn the respect and admiration from the fans, but made Pro Wrestling what it was to the adult audience. A Sport. Something the Japanese and Mexicans still work THEIR asses of for to this day. And something that will NEVER again be the same, in the United States...
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Yeah, I have the issues. I guess working in the past with Indy Wrestling Organizations and being a freelance writer, photographer and web designer is the reason I have these issues.

Facts are facts. I have a brain, and I use it to say what I think. So yeah, I guess I do have issues.
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