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Old 12-04-2006, 04:57 PM   #1
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Paul Heyman gone from ECW
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Distraught by the results of December to Dismember, ECW Representative Paul Heyman appeared to be distant and depressed this afternoon at the North Charleston Coliseum hours before an ECW live event.

This condition was further exasperated by Mr. McMahon, who decided to send Heyman home. The WWE Chairman cited slumping television ratings and a disgruntled talent roster as causes for Mr. Heyman’s dismissal.


Kayfabe, no doubt.
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Old 12-04-2006, 04:58 PM   #2
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Can you BLAME him?
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Old 12-04-2006, 04:59 PM   #3
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Open letter to Vince:

Dear Vince.

We don't care.

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Vince publicly burdoning Heyman with the blame for "slumping ratings" and "disgruntled talent". Surely Vince should be sending himself home?
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Old 12-04-2006, 05:05 PM   #5
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So we'll be getting The Coach or someone equally uninspired as new ECW General Manager from Tuesday then?
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Old 12-04-2006, 05:10 PM   #8
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Best thing for Heyman is to sit at home, collect his cheques and leave.

If they pay him just so he doesn't go to TNA fine, as long as he's happy.

But Heyman in TNA would be great, on and off screen.

Anyone know how long he's got on his contract left?
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Old 12-04-2006, 06:29 PM   #9
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Best thing for Heyman is to sit at home, collect his cheques and leave.

If they pay him just so he doesn't go to TNA fine, as long as he's happy.

But Heyman in TNA would be great, on and off screen.

Anyone know how long he's got on his contract left?
thats what they do with bischoff
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Old 12-04-2006, 06:58 PM   #10
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thats what they do with bischoff
Pretty much,man I really kinda wonder if Vince wolud be willing to let Pual really go?
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Heyman needs to avoid TNA and move straight onto ROH. He wouldn't be given the same power and stroke at TNA as he might at a smaller fed which he could mould.
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Old 12-04-2006, 05:14 PM   #12
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Well, Gabe did start off under Heyman...
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Christ some of you are dumb.

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*cough*work*cough*
Thank you for restoring my faith that some people understand that pro wrestling (and their storylines) arn't *gasp* real.
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Really,so if everything is a work oh,wise one then surely you can give us the date of Trish and Lita's return or when Bret Hart will be back in the ring?
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Really,so if everything is a work oh,wise one then surely you can give us the date of Trish and Lita's return or when Bret Hart will be back in the ring?
Where did I say that everything was a work?

Oh that's right, I didn't.
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yeh, totally. but my opnion on Heyman's future still stands
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Yes I know it's a work, but what I'm saying is after that shitfest last night, I want him to leave the sinking ship anyway
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Yes I know it's a work, but what I'm saying is after that shitfest last night, I want him to leave the sinking ship anyway
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PWInsider.com has just reported the details on Paul Heyman’s departure from not only ECW but apparently WWE as a whole. According to reports, Vince McMahon was furious at last night’s ECW December to Dismember pay per view and is trying to pin all the blame on Paul Heyman. Nevermind the fact that it was more of a WWE style pay per view than an ECW one.

According to sources, Vince believes that Paul doesn’t get what the new vision of ECW should be and that he is "caught in the past." So how did all of this come about?

Well apparently the problems started last night when Heyman, angry at how the show was being booked, began voicing his opinions before, during and after the show. Reportedly there were definite issues between Vince and Paul that escalated today at the tapings where a meeting was held at approx. 2pm eastern time with Heyman, Stephanie McMahon-Levesque and Vince McMahon.

After the meeting Heyman came out of the meeting looking normal like nothing had transpired. He then grabbed his stuff and left. The word is this is NOT a storyline at all and that Paul Heyman is done with World Wrestling Entertainment.
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Old 12-05-2006, 11:35 AM   #21
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PWInsider.com has just reported the details on Paul Heyman’s departure from not only ECW but apparently WWE as a whole. According to reports, Vince McMahon was furious at last night’s ECW December to Dismember pay per view and is trying to pin all the blame on Paul Heyman. Nevermind the fact that it was more of a WWE style pay per view than an ECW one.

According to sources, Vince believes that Paul doesn’t get what the new vision of ECW should be and that he is "caught in the past." So how did all of this come about?

Well apparently the problems started last night when Heyman, angry at how the show was being booked, began voicing his opinions before, during and after the show. Reportedly there were definite issues between Vince and Paul that escalated today at the tapings where a meeting was held at approx. 2pm eastern time with Heyman, Stephanie McMahon-Levesque and Vince McMahon.

After the meeting Heyman came out of the meeting looking normal like nothing had transpired. He then grabbed his stuff and left. The word is this is NOT a storyline at all and that Paul Heyman is done with World Wrestling Entertainment.
Seriously.
What build up on ECW TV was there for Daivari vs. Dreamer?
Knox/Kelly versus Thorn/Ariel?

NONE.

Knox/Kelly have been in the middle of a SL with CM Punk. Ariel/Thorn haven't even been paying them any mind.

and Daivari has just been fighting random people with the help of Khali as enforcer.

and Hardys/MNM was built up... but only on Raw, not ECW.

The only match even hyped for that PPV was the Elimination Chamber, and did you think people who had just spent on Survivor Series a week or so ago are going to shell out again for this second-rate PPV?

FOH.

Vince lost, IMO.
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Old 12-04-2006, 07:05 PM   #22
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If it ain't a work, good.
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Full article from PWinsider.com

As Mike reported a few minutes ago, Paul Heyman is gone from WWE. From talking to a number of people in the company, the impression I received was that Vince McMahon was irate about how awful the PPV was last night and wanted to pin the blame on Heyman for it. Anyone who knows anything about Heyman's booking, as I have for years now, have a pretty good idea that the show was much more McMahon than Heyman. But according to people I spoke with, Heyman got pinned with the blame for it with the theory being that "he is caught in the past and doesn't understand the new vision of ECW". You know, the vision that ends PPVs a half hour early and makes the fans boo what WWE creative books for them.

The problems started yesterday at the ECW PPV when everyone realized that the show really stunk. Heyman was said to be unhappy with the way that the show was booked (big shock right) and sources backstage told me that he voiced that concern both before the show and after it. People at TV told me today that it was obvious that there were issues between Vince McMahon and Heyman because of the how the show played out on pay TV, with everyone knowing it was a disaster. Problems carried over from last night and led to the incidents that happened today.

A number of sources told me that there was a meeting today around two o'clock with Heyman, Vince McMahon and Stephanie McMahon-Levesque at the building. Heyman came out the meeting and seemed like his normal self, with no one I talked to having any idea that something bad had happened. Shortly thereafter, Heyman gathered his things and left the building to go home.

The word going around from everyone I talked to is that this is not a storyline in any way and he is legitimately done with the company.
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LOL@everyone who laughed at those who believed it to be true when it actually was.

Typical Vince mcmahon though eh, he says Heyman is stuck in the past, but what way was more succesful? Judging by last nights PPV, I would say Heymans way was...
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You can't blame anyone for thinking it was a work when it comes from wwe.com and half sounds like a work.
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Didn't sound like a work to me tbh, I expected this to happen.
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My first thoughts were "work", and this is going to be an angle where Paul Heyman leads the ECW Originals against the New Breed, but apparently it is real. I wouldn't be surprised either way.

Paul Heyman could really go to TNA. How does he feel about Vince Russo? Would they be able to work together? Cut Russo, and let Heyman do it. Also let him do colour commentary instead of Don West. It is time for some changes.

What Heyman could do with TNA would be fantastic to see. I could see him going to ROH, but to be honest, I don't see him doing too well there. They don't seem to care about the out-come of their matches and storylines as much as match quality. I love ROH, but that's just my view on it.

Paul Heyman, Rob Van Dam and Sabu to TNA? That sounds exciting.
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Well Sabu coming back to TNA will be like he never left really.

Personally, if Heyman goes to TNA...I really think TNA will have THE premier booking team in all of America.

lol The funniest part is, everything is working out in TNA's favour due to WWE's plain stupidity.
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Old 12-04-2006, 08:43 PM   #30
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lol The funniest part is, everything is working out in TNA's favour due to WWE's plain stupidity.
I've said it for a long time now, if TNA succeeds, it'll be more a credit to WWE's failures than anything else.
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I've said it for a long time now, if TNA succeeds, it'll be more a credit to WWE's failures than anything else.

Yeah. It definitely doesn't have anything to do with the hungry, young, talented wrestlers filling up their roster.
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Yeah. It definitely doesn't have anything to do with the hungry, young, talented wrestlers filling up their roster.
Oh God yes. Sabu, Kevin Nash, The James', Jarrett, Kurt Angle, Sting...All that new, young talent. Not to mention the Russo booking, which is taking them to the next level...Ummmm...They are gathering ratings that compete with WWE, right? No? Well, at least people know who these young, ungry talents are...No? Welll, at least they're getting meaningful pushes...No? Well, at least they're new, and it's not like most of them have been around for the entirety of TNA, working and wasting away in virtual obscurity...What? Oh, right.

I'm sorry, Fox. I'd like to see things your way. However, I lack the brain damage necessary. TNA's had young, hungry talent for ages, has it made them successful? No. What was their big, ratings success? The return of Sting (Which was booked so well the ratings went down the next week and never came back). Their prime time special? Not particularly well-rated, especially given their own expectations. And then, of course, you go and put over what Heyman can do for them...Which underscores my point.
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Old 12-04-2006, 08:02 PM   #33
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And btw, According to Gerweck.net, it was RVD's wife that was chanting TNA TNA ?
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Whatever, I was hoping for this anyway.

The man is better working for himself or individuals without power issues, and seeing as ROH is coming off as the alternative to other wrestling feds, his style of booking is awesome if given the chance there (and they do need someone who can draw together some storylines). Hope it happens.
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Also, what about Pro Wrestling X, or whatever MTV is calling it? Regardless, where ever Heyman goes, if he's giving booking power, I will watch.

Also, does anyone know how long Punk's WWE contract is for?
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Also, what about Pro Wrestling X, or whatever MTV is calling it? Regardless, where ever Heyman goes, if he's giving booking power, I will watch.

Also, does anyone know how long Punk's WWE contract is for?
I don't have a clue, but I'd assume somewhere in the range of two to five years. Poor guy.
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Also, what about Pro Wrestling X, or whatever MTV is calling it? Regardless, where ever Heyman goes, if he's giving booking power, I will watch.
Smackdown?
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Smackdown?
Remember when Heyman used to book that show. Most people agree it is good now, but back then?
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But yeah, I what I don't get is how December to Dismember showed that Heyman can't get over the past? Is it because the show was booked under WWE standards, yet wasn't good? Is Vince taking Heyman's inability to book amazing WWE-style shows as a sign he is still longing for the old ways? It can't be that, because the WWE is putting on shit WWE-style shows.

If last night was booked to Heyman's wishes, I could imagine it being much different, and to be honest, better.
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Yeah, as much as I'd love to see Heyman in TNA, I think ROH is a perfect fit for Heyman.
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