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Old 12-12-2003, 12:54 AM   #1
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Next Batman film casting news/speculation thread
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I just felt like making a thread for this since I'm pretty psyched for what Nolan could possibly achieve with this.

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Christian Bale is Batman (confirmed)
Michael Caine is Alfred (confirmed)
Katie Holmes is Rachel - Bruce Wayne love interest (heavily rumoured - she's got a screentest scheduled apparently)
Cillian Murphy is Scarecrow (I *think* I saw this confirmed but just take it as speculation for now)

So at the moment that still leaves Ra'as Al Ghul uncast, and potentially Talia as well (ELIZA DUSHKU DAMMIT [/predictable] )

Most heavily speculated for Ra'as:

John Malkovich
Alan Rickman
Christopher Ecclestone

Soooooooooo...thoughts?

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Old 12-12-2003, 02:23 AM   #2
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who the hell are these new bad guys? did they create like a million more just so they can make more movies?
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who the hell are these new bad guys? did they create like a million more just so they can make more movies?
Well I know scarecrow

But Ra'as is a new one by me
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I think Bale will be the best Batman since Keaton (who will not be topped imo)

When you see what he did with Patrick Bateman, you know the guy's gonna add something dark and nasty to the Bruce Wayne character.
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Ra'as Al Ghul has been in the comics since the 60s and has been Batman's most evenly matched opponent over the last 10-15 years

He was in the animated series on a couple of occasions as well
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Ra'as Al Ghul has been in the comics since the 60s and has been Batman's most evenly matched opponent over the last 10-15 years

He was in the animated series on a couple of occasions as well
Never heard of him.

And I always thought Scarecrow was crap... suppose that's what they get for managing to use up 7 villains over the course of 4 movies, they're left with the cast offs...
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Ha remember when somebody said Jude Law was going to be Batman and everyone kicked off saying "you can't have an englishman playing Batman"
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My bad he first appeared early 70s Still though he's been around a while. Seriously, this guy is to Batman as Luthor is to Superman, hot stuff that they're bringing him into the movie (just hope they don't kill him off )

Scarecrow on the surface is a pretty lame villain however given the right setting and treatment he can be a really good opponent...he won't be in the film for much though since the majority will focus on Ra's
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My bad he first appeared early 70s Still though he's been around a while. Seriously, this guy is to Batman as Luthor is to Superman, hot stuff that they're bringing him into the movie (just hope they don't kill him off )

Scarecrow on the surface is a pretty lame villain however given the right setting and treatment he can be a really good opponent...he won't be in the film for much though since the majority will focus on Ra's
Yeah, the guy's been around forever. Batman has a HUGE Rogue's Gallery, so it's asinine to just assume that they're making new people up because you've never heard of 'em. The guy's never been one of my favorites though...I'm hoping he's done well in the movie.

As for ScareCrow...He was an attempt to make yet another head trip character. They wanted the Joker or Riddler for that "tried-n-true" effect, but with a different paintjob and slightly different MO. I think he coulda been MUCH cooler...
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Whatever happened to the cool Batman villains??

The Mad Hatter,Falseface,King Tut,The Bookworm,The Archer,The Minstrel,The Clock King,Marsha (The Queen Of Diamonds)Egghead,Shame & The Cowboys,The Sandman,Colonel Gumm,Black Widow,Nora Clavicle,The Puzzler,Louie The Lilac,Olga,Lord Phogg,and the great Minerva (Ms Gabor).

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I'd like to see Egghead or King Tut just for laughs

Like a quick opening segment where Batman beats their shit up
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They shouldn't have killed off the classics, such as Joker, two face, penguin, etc.
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Two Face'll be back.

They REALLY should've left it open as to whether or not Joker was really dead. That end scene made sure he died in the FIRST movie. I mean, Joker's "died" before, but he always had an out, something not afforded here.

Let's see...So far, they've kept alive The Catwoman, but she's gone "good" supposedly, and the Riddler, who's the more likely one to eventually return as a bad guy. I mean, what's insanity to a guy who was already insane? Then, there's Ivy (I pray she's not returning, or they make her less sucky), and Freeze. Since they basically took away all motive for Freeze to be bad in that last movie, I'm gonna say "Nuts to that." And Bane...Don't get me started.

I still think they should have a Batman movie where Riddler teams up with the Joker. The Joker busts him out of Arkham, helps him set up his master plan, only to turn out to be a figment of his imagination (Think something between Fight Club and A Beautiful Mind). The guy was pshychotic to begin wiith, and that final "Brain Drain" couldn't have been a picnic. Just imagine the moment where Batman reveals it.
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Eccelstone is a better Scarecrow. Tall, wiry and a sinister looking bastard…

The news most recently published, an article with Michael Caine, about the movie would seem to be that Nolan is going for Viggo Mortensen as Ra’s Al Ghul.

I’d have him rather than Alan Rickman or Malkovich although I’d have thought an Middle Eastern actor would be the best fit…although with current politics maybe not.
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All the talk about the previous movies is, I'm hoping anyway, going to be proved redundant as long as this movie hits big - since this is a complete fresh start for the franchise they *could*, if they wanted, basically bring back and use anyone they wanted if they decide to make a series of these (though if they do that no swapping directors and stars and whatever the hell else, keep Nolan and Bale in throughout). And like I said before, don't fucking kill of Ra's in the first movie, take a lead from Magneto in X-Men, you don't kill off the major major villains when they are infinitely re-usable.
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I said before, don't fucking kill of Ra's in the first movie, take a lead from Magneto in X-Men, you don't kill off the major major villains when they are infinitely re-usable.
It seems like it's a no-brainer, it seems like it should never need to be said, and then you go and look at the existing Batman franchise, and you realise why it MUST be said.
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Eccelstone is a better Scarecrow. Tall, wiry and a sinister looking bastard…
I might have mixed those up and he might have been in the running for Scarecrow Pretty sure that Murphy is locked in now though.
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*Topic resurrection*

To update:

Christian Bale - Batman
Michael Caine - Alfred
Katie Holmes - Bruce Wayne love interest
Cilian Murphy - unknown villain (most likely Scarecrow)
Liam Neeson - unknown villain (Ra'as? could work I guess, Neeson has the gravitas to be able to pull it off)

Those are all confirmed and locked castings. Still to be cast, from speculation anyway, is Jim Gordon (who will be in his 30s and a lieutenant, not the commissioner) and possibly the mayor and one or two other figurehead type characters.
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After this they should be out of villians. Shouldnt they?
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After this they should be out of villians. Shouldnt they?
It's a new franchise, so they probably wont be going by the other movies. I wouldn't be surprized to see the Joker later on in the new series.
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After this they should be out of villians. Shouldnt they?
Batman's had HUNDREDs of villains in his books over the years.
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After this they should be out of villians. Shouldnt they?
I don't know. Perhaps villains like Bookworm, Egghead, or King Tut can comeback for one more run.
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^^ Yep

They're basically rebooting the franchise, so it's as if the first four movies never happened. Some people will probably find that hard to wrap their heads around but the sooner Batman & Robin is banished from existance the better
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^^ Yep

They're basically rebooting the franchise, so it's as if the first four movies never happened. Some people will probably find that hard to wrap their heads around but the sooner Batman & Robin is banished from existance the better
I kind of wish that they could reboot the franchise but still use different characters and villains. I mean, I can't picture the Joker being anyone else besides Jack Nicholson.
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^^ Yep

They're basically rebooting the franchise, so it's as if the first four movies never happened. Some people will probably find that hard to wrap their heads around but the sooner Batman & Robin is banished from existance the better
Yeah, this movie is supposed to be the last four movies what the last four movies were to the 70s movies...

It's a shame that Batman franchise had to go out on the note of Batman and Robin. That was a massively stupid movie.

However, there's a couple of major advantages to a reboot...

1) THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO NOT KILL OFF HIS TOP TEN VILLAINS IMMEDIATELY!!!!!!!

2) They get to do what I've done for years, and treat the fourth movie like it never existed

3) They hust might get a couple of movies out of the same Batman.
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1) THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO NOT KILL OFF HIS TOP TEN VILLAINS IMMEDIATELY!!!!!!
Do you really think it would make sense if they didn't kill off the villian at the end or at least have him clearly defeated to the point where he can't come back? I mean how can you have a film where the bad guy doesn't lose. Plus you can't just bring back a villian for another movie and make it seem like they have a better chance.

Unless you are talking about the idea of pairing villians up for no reason.

Oh and my number 1 thing that I want to see them do right is not fuck up Bane
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Do you really think it would make sense if they didn't kill off the villian at the end or at least have him clearly defeated to the point where he can't come back? I mean how can you have a film where the bad guy doesn't lose. Plus you can't just bring back a villian for another movie and make it seem like they have a better chance.
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X-men is different because there is more than one battle going on. The movies aren't just about the Magneto and his team vs the Xmen, they are also about the fight that the mutants go through to be accepted in society.
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Do you really think it would make sense if they didn't kill off the villian at the end or at least have him clearly defeated to the point where he can't come back? I mean how can you have a film where the bad guy doesn't lose. Plus you can't just bring back a villian for another movie and make it seem like they have a better chance.


For a movie to make sense, the bad guy has to die.

And especially in a comic book movie...
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They could always use clayface. The CGI they have these days could make him really come to life. Then there's the Manbat, and when they get to the bottom of the barrel crossing over villains from the justice league.
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Here's a little more inmfo on it. Liam Neeson is in the movie too.
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