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Old 05-16-2007, 04:58 PM   #1
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WWECW...while the final chapter hasn't been written, it looks like it.
While the final chapter of ECW or WWECW hasn't been written yet, it seems like it is only a matter of time before it goes up in a puff of smoke. Did it ever really have a chance or was it doomed from the get go. If it wasn't who do you blame? Vince? Paul Heyman? Van Dam? Kurt Angle?

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Old 05-16-2007, 05:02 PM   #2
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It has no signs of ending at any point in time. Why, cuz the originals are gonna be all gone?
They're gonna continue to use it as they are. How long is their TV deal? Because that's how long it will last.
It's part of Smackdown tapings, and the whole thing can't be costing enough money to be losing money.

I don't blame anyone anyways. It never proclaimed to be or should have been expected to be anything more or less than it has.
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Old 05-16-2007, 05:03 PM   #3
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Vince just set it up so he could knock it down and piss off fans of the original ECW. End of story.
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It has no signs of ending at any point in time. Why, cuz the originals are gonna be all gone?
They're gonna continue to use it as they are. How long is their TV deal? Because that's how long it will last.
It's part of Smackdown tapings, and the whole thing can't be costing enough money to be losing money.

I don't blame anyone anyways. It never proclaimed to be or should have been expected to be anything more or less than it has.
Well, I guess I figured it was going to die because it has been talked about a lot, and with Sabu gone and Sandman soon to follow, it seems like it ready to die any minute, plus the matches aren't anything like ECW matches in any sense.
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Well, I guess I figured it was going to die because it has been talked about a lot, and with Sabu gone and Sandman soon to follow, it seems like it ready to die any minute, plus the matches aren't anything like ECW matches in any sense.
I would imagine it'd be more because of piss poor buyrates and the like. no originals, even not having ECW style matches won't stop it. Lack of support, however, will.
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plus the matches aren't anything like ECW matches in any sense.
Been like that since the beginning.
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Old 05-16-2007, 05:34 PM   #7
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I had hopes for it...but knew it would go down the drain the minute Kurt Angle moved to it....That pissed me off horribly...

Now its just pure wattered down ECW...when the Originals leave...its gonna officially become just watered down crap...the name of ECW will forever be ruined and now the greatness that was ECW will only be referred to as...Old ECW...or Original ECW
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I had hopes for it...but knew it would go down the drain the minute Kurt Angle moved to it....That pissed me off horribly...

Now its just pure wattered down ECW...when the Originals leave...its gonna officially become just watered down crap...the name of ECW will forever be ruined and now the greatness that was ECW will only be referred to as...Old ECW...or Original ECW
It is past the point of waterdown. If Paul Heyman was giving ECW special Kool-Aid, WWE has waterdown the Kool-Aid and started adding their Krystal Lite flavors and still passing it off as ECW. If you follow me.
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It is past the point of waterdown. If Paul Heyman was giving ECW special Kool-Aid, WWE has waterdown the Kool-Aid and started adding their Krystal Lite flavors and still passing it off as ECW. If you follow me.
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Old 05-16-2007, 08:40 PM   #10
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It is past the point of waterdown. If Paul Heyman was giving ECW special Kool-Aid, WWE has waterdown the Kool-Aid and started adding their Krystal Lite flavors and still passing it off as ECW. If you follow me.
Comparing the new ECW to Krystal Light is insulting to Krystal Light.
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Old 05-16-2007, 05:45 PM   #11
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Old 05-16-2007, 06:03 PM   #12
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Old 05-16-2007, 06:26 PM   #13
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Nahhh ECW can sustain itself once it gets a new history... Its clear this is now Heymans ECW, its just the name of the 3rd brand, which I am all for. It just needs to get better, and its heading there.
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Old 05-16-2007, 06:30 PM   #14
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I think I'll start blaming people when ECW is actually scrapped...
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Old 05-16-2007, 08:52 PM   #15
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If you didn't expect ECW: The Brand to be ECW then you will realize it is a good show (not great). I never expected this to be the true relaunch of ECW. They used the ECW name to get instant brand recognition and it worked. They are slowly moving away from needing the "Old ECW" attached to it. Eventually, the WWECW will truly be a "new breed unleashed".
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If you didn't expect ECW: The Brand to be ECW then you will realize it is a good show (not great). I never expected this to be the true relaunch of ECW. They used the ECW name to get instant brand recognition and it worked. They are slowly moving away from needing the "Old ECW" attached to it. Eventually, the WWECW will truly be a "new breed unleashed".
More like, "meet the new breed, same as the old breed."
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Vince just set it up so he could knock it down and piss off fans of the original ECW. End of story
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Old 05-17-2007, 02:35 AM   #19
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Gotta agree with JamesSteele. I expect this time next year all the originals will be gone and the brand will have a different name altogether.
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Gotta agree with JamesSteele. I expect this time next year all the originals will be gone and the brand will have a different name altogether.
Whats that? TERROR TUESDAY?
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I was always disappointed that WWE 24/7 wasn't a revival of the HC title. A channel that had a camera on the champion 24/7; you could tune in and find out what he was doing at any moment.

Though Hardcore Heat could be a similar concept; an hour-long show that shows you an overview of how the champion spent his week, and what challenges he had to fend off.
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I was always disappointed that WWE 24/7 wasn't a revival of the HC title. A channel that had a camera on the champion 24/7; you could tune in and find out what he was doing at any moment.

Though Hardcore Heat could be a similar concept; an hour-long show that shows you an overview of how the champion spent his week, and what challenges he had to fend off.
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I was always disappointed that WWE 24/7 wasn't a revival of the HC title. A channel that had a camera on the champion 24/7; you could tune in and find out what he was doing at any moment.

Though Hardcore Heat could be a similar concept; an hour-long show that shows you an overview of how the champion spent his week, and what challenges he had to fend off.
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I was thinking it was so retarded that they might actually do it.
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Old 05-17-2007, 11:22 AM   #28
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Old 05-17-2007, 02:44 PM   #29
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It'll just be called "On Sci-Fi".
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Old 05-17-2007, 02:56 PM   #30
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It'll just be called "On Sci-Fi".
Come to think of it, the New BReed struck me as a bad superhero team.
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Old 05-18-2007, 06:16 PM   #31
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Old 05-20-2007, 12:06 PM   #32
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It had some potential at first. Keeping ECW rules at least gave it its own identity against Raw and SmackDown!, and having guys like Kurt Angle, Rob Van Dam, Sabu, and the Big Show (say what you want about any of them, but they were fairly big stars, even if Sabu more or less only had a cult following) helped...but before long, none of the "ECW guys" were even really featured.
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Old 05-20-2007, 01:06 PM   #33
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It had some potential at first. Keeping ECW rules at least gave it its own identity against Raw and SmackDown!, and having guys like Kurt Angle, Rob Van Dam, Sabu, and the Big Show (say what you want about any of them, but they were fairly big stars, even if Sabu more or less only had a cult following) helped...but before long, none of the "ECW guys" were even really featured.
Heyman's KAYFABE argument about the new ECW actually made i make sense for a while, too. Because ECW was about a lot of things, not just hardcore and garbage matches.

The problem is, the old ECW had a reputation, had something distinct. It was full of gems, if you sifted through the shit. And there was shit. And we accept that. And so on. The "new ECW" doesn't really offer the diversity Heyman said, which was KAYFABE, but still accurate about the real ECW.

ECW on Sci Fi reminds me of the rest of WWE. The Rpoduction value seems a bit lower for that "oldschool" feel, but it's just another case of "meet the new hoss...Same as the old Hoss."
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Old 05-20-2007, 01:28 PM   #34
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They should have just brought back WCW.
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They should have just brought back WCW.
They did. It's on Thursday nights at 10 on SpikeTV
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Heyman's KAYFABE argument about the new ECW actually made i make sense for a while, too. Because ECW was about a lot of things, not just hardcore and garbage matches.

The problem is, the old ECW had a reputation, had something distinct. It was full of gems, if you sifted through the shit. And there was shit. And we accept that. And so on. The "new ECW" doesn't really offer the diversity Heyman said, which was KAYFABE, but still accurate about the real ECW.

ECW on Sci Fi reminds me of the rest of WWE. The Rpoduction value seems a bit lower for that "oldschool" feel, but it's just another case of "meet the new hoss...Same as the old Hoss."
I'm not saying the original ECW didn't have diversity. I guess I was more or less saying that what we are getting is nothing diverse, really.
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Old 05-20-2007, 01:27 PM   #37
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I dunno guys, I like ECW right now.
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Old 05-20-2007, 01:46 PM   #38
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Don't be ridiculous.
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Old 05-20-2007, 03:35 PM   #39
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They play WCW replays? Or is this some joke that I don't get.
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TNA. He's talking about TNA.
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