The NExt boom period maay be upon us.

[Indifferent Clox]

All the new guys are steppin gup in WWE a new era approaches

Tna is getting better and may actually eventually become competiition for WWE. Almost like wcw

And ROH is similiar to ECW in that it's the distant third that many consider best.

[The One]

I'm not going to argue that a new boom period may be upon us, I mean looking across the rosters right now there are SO MANY ways they could take any number of people and a lot of guys could make a big splash is used correctly...

HOWEVER, RoH is in no way like ECW other than it's diehard fans have been brainwashed into thinking what they doing is anything more important than selling out a crowd the size of a high school basketball game. TNA is so fucked up that it simply can't compete with WWE in any way, and before you point out WCW was a mess, remember that WCW had two things working for it, Turner's check book and Bischoff's willingness to do ANYTHING to get a head. TNA doesn't have it. TNA has some INCREDIBLE talent, but no one to oversee everything and no potential for a big time angle to center the promotion around.

If WWE got off their asses and worked with what they have, quit dicking around with the brand split, and focused on quality over quantity, it could give us in my opinion some of the best television ever. Of course for that to happen Vince would need complete freedom, something he doesn't enjoy now that WWE is a publically traded company, he would need to quit relying on old methods which he's proven time and time again he won't or can't do, and they would need am image overhaul.

TOVO Fact: Tovo hates Hybrid cars.

[Theo Dious]

Originally Posted by The One ...remember that WCW had two things working for it, Turner's check book and Bischoff's willingness to do ANYTHING to get a head.

Bischoff tried to hire Al Snow?




















If you can make fun of my typos I can make fun of yours!

[ron the dial]

lol boom

i don't see a boom like we once saw ever happening again

i can't stomach WWE or TNA and ROH is nowhere near (and doesn't need to be) that level

[Funky Fly]

Originally Posted by Weapon X lol boom i don't see a boom like we once saw ever happening again i can't stomach WWE or TNA and ROH is nowhere near (and doesn't need to be) that level

What this nigga said.

[Mister Sinister]

Did I here someone say



BOOM!

[LoDownM]

[Dave Youell]

I've already said, Boom periods co-inside with Democrats being in the white house, so when Hilary is elected, you can expect another ‘boom’

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Originally Posted by Dave Youell I've already said, Boom periods co-inside with Democrats being in the white house, so when Barack is elected, you can expect another ‘boom’

[JT]

Originally Posted by Dave Youell I've already said, Boom periods co-inside with Democrats being in the white house, so when Hilary is elected, you can expect another ‘boom’

Wasn't a republican in the house during the 80's boom period?

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by JT Kool Wasn't a republican in the house during the 80's boom period?

Are you going to let a little something like "facts" and "logic" get in the way of a perfectly good myth?

Anyway, Clox, your threshold for what's good is far different than most posters around here, let alone the average Joe's. I'm betting this response will get your typical "lol I'm so high right now" response, and every time you're high, you think you're insightful, but really, no.

A Boom period is marked by mainstream popularity and commercial success. TNA doesn't start the boom by just being GOOD, they have to actually draw in crowds and make money. They have to get high ratings. They have to be competing with WWE, and right now, they're not. You talk about the distant third that RoH is, and TNA is a distant second. In fact, they're a de facto second place. They're not second because they're competition, merely second because there is no real competition. When you only draw a third of the TV ratings in a non-competitive time slot, you're not competition in any meaningful sense.

So where's the Boom period? What indicates that we may be in another boom period? You enjoy it, and therefore, it's the next Attitude Era? No.
It doesn't work that way. The only promotion making a huge profit right now is WWE, and that's not so much off wrestling, as it is off their video and merch departments. Mostly video, which they've done by stepping up production of videos. That's a stopgap measure, though, not a strong longterm business model. TNA? No. RoH? I won't even dignify that one.

[Indifferent Clox]

Originally Posted by Kane Knight Are you going to let a little something like "facts" and "logic" get in the way of a perfectly good myth? Anyway, Clox, your threshold for what's good is far different than most posters around here, let alone the average Joe's. I'm betting this response will get your typical "lol I'm so high right now" response, and every time you're high, you think you're insightful, but really, no. A Boom period is marked by mainstream popularity and commercial success. TNA doesn't start the boom by just being GOOD, they have to actually draw in crowds and make money. They have to get high ratings. They have to be competing with WWE, and right now, they're not. You talk about the distant third that RoH is, and TNA is a distant second. In fact, they're a de facto second place. They're not second because they're competition, merely second because there is no real competition. When you only draw a third of the TV ratings in a non-competitive time slot, you're not competition in any meaningful sense. So where's the Boom period? What indicates that we may be in another boom period? You enjoy it, and therefore, it's the next Attitude Era? No. It doesn't work that way. The only promotion making a huge profit right now is WWE, and that's not so much off wrestling, as it is off their video and merch departments. Mostly video, which they've done by stepping up production of videos. That's a stopgap measure, though, not a strong longterm business model. TNA? No. RoH? I won't even dignify that one.

Ok I have met people at my school, nonwrestlng fans before who are all about some TNA like I've met people who will make fun of WWE and be like TNA i s cool though, UFC is getting huge and wiht it being on hte same channel, people give it a chance perhaps. I think TNA has been odoing pretty good, I don't like it it as much as I did 3 weeks ago or so but I still see massive potential. They are the alternative to WWE and people are seeing that, whether you've been off the computer and out in the real world long enough to figure that shit out or not.

WWE Has that new era of people that is just perfect for what they want to do. It'll switch and people will tune in because of all the new guys that seem so popular.

ROH Man Up is one of the best PPVs I have ever seen. They specialize in technical style wrestling much like ECW technalized in Hardcore, but they also have guys who represent various styles, the big difference in them iand ECW is ECW had older guys wheres ROH is mostly younger up and comers. Also they don't have a writer like Heyman.

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by Indifferent Clox Ok I have met people at my school, nonwrestlng fans before who are all about some TNA like I've met people who will make fun of WWE and be like TNA i s cool though, UFC is getting huge and wiht it being on hte same channel, people give it a chance perhaps.

That really doesn't mean anything, though. The ratings really haven't changed, so obviously this interest is not reflected beyond a couple of people you may have met at school.

UFC is getting huge and wiht it being on hte same channel, people give it a chance perhaps.

UFC's been notable for quite some time. This still hasn't affected TNA's popularity significantly. It hasn't elevated it to a WWE competitor. And that doesn't make RoH any better an example, either.

I think TNA has been odoing pretty good, I don't like it it as much as I did 3 weeks ago or so but I still see massive potential.

Read: I like it; it's actually backsliding, but ignore that.

They are the alternative to WWE and people are seeing that, whether you've been off the computer and out in the real world long enough to figure that shit out or not.

Dude.

After going emo about your party to me, you do NOT want to be comparing social lives. Seriously.

That aside, what is the "real world" saying about pro wrestling right now? Anything? Some kids at school don't really change the fact that wrestling is currently not popular culture, nor is it doing well by any measurable trait. That is the real world. The reality is that wrestling isn't doing great right now, not in terms of ratings, not in terms of mainstream exposure, not in terms of popularity with casuals.

WWE Has that new era of people that is just perfect for what they want to do. It'll switch and people will tune in because of all the new guys that seem so popular.

Based on what, praytell? It still reads as "I want it to be, so it must be." WWE's ratings are horrible, so people aren't watching more. WWE's in pop culture right now only as a result of being the butt end of Benoit jokes and steroid investigations, so it's not that people are more interested on that end. Dedicated fans don't react and non-dedicated fans don't watch. What part of this reads as "seem so popular?"

WWE's only in good shape finiancially right now, and even then, only because they've radically diversified themselves recently (Well, diversified might be a stretch, since all they're doing is flooding the market with DVDs and other crap).

ROH Man Up is one of the best PPVs I have ever seen.

Yes. You like it. That doesn't mean it's going to garner more popularity. People have been saying this shit about RoH performances for ages, and even about the PPVs since they began. Doesn't mean they're going to be the enxt ECW.

They specialize in technical style wrestling much like ECW technalized in Hardcore, but they also have guys who represent various styles, the big difference in them iand ECW is ECW had older guys wheres ROH is mostly younger up and comers. Also they don't have a writer like Heyman.

Or a National TV deal. Or the kind of support ECW had. Those last two are pretty important differences. I won't even get into the ECW specialisation bit, because it's not worth it, but ECW also caught on when pro wrestling was on fire, something that's sorely lacking in the current environment. If there was another Monday Night War, this could benefit RoH, but that's putting the cart before the horse. First we need a boom period to occur before that can happen, and it'll be successively into the boom period that any such effect will be realised. So what you need is a boom period to happen within your own argument for an imminent boom period. RoH could potentially develop the difference needed to propel it to a third party competitor, but without that boom period, without popular interest, it won't happen. That's a "real world" truth that "I liked it" cannot trump.

[Londoner]

lol, don't people say this every year?'The next boom period could be up on us' lol, maks me laugh. Lets face it, the majority of that era have grown up and realised how much it sucks these days, until something dramatically changes, things will nevvveerr, evvveerrr be that way, AGAIN.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Honestly, things MIGHT change a little when Vince goes. Their in-ring product might improve, since the recent rumor seems to be that HHH and HBK will be in chage of in ring stuff.

The bigger problem though will be that Steph will be in charge of storylines, so it may get much worse....

[The MAC]

This isnt a boom. Its the period where they have exhausted every recycled idea and brought back anyone they thought would make a difference.

Vince really has to come up with something new an innovative now.

[Tommy Gunn]

2008 has alot of potential, more than 2007 had I think.

I just want to see a heel or tweener win the Rumble. Most battle royals this year have resulted in the heel going out under the ropes and coming in at the end to throw out the 'winner'. I hope MVP or Kennedy pull off a sneaky win at the Rumble.

Also, I stopped watching WWE for a few years in 03-06 so I missed John Cena's heel run, so I'd love for him to come back with an edgy character as opposed to gay/toilet humour superman.

[.44 Magdalene]

SONIC BOOM





Period.

[RVDmark]

I wouldn't say its upon us, but the potential for one does seem to be getting closer. If X factor can get that many viewers, so can wrestling!

TNA has huge potential which they seem to be flushing away on a daily basis. TNA needs a better arena in my view. There's no point to 2 entrances, its too dark, and everything looks like its made of MDF and plywood.

[BigDaddyCool]

The next boom period always may be upon us. That is the beuaty about indefinite words like may. You are never wrong. Convesersely, the death of wrestling may be upon is equally as true.

[Mr. Nerfect]

That is actually a surprisingly smart statement from BDC.

[BigDaddyCool]

All my statments are smart. That is actually a suprisingly short statement for Alienoid. See we can get along.

[BigDaddyCool]

Also, there is no point in arguing maybes or other hypothetical situations that are nothing more than vague possiblities such as the "next boom may be upon us" or "RoH may be the most dominate wrestling promotion in the next 10 years" or shit like that with a long or indefinite time line. Because there is no solid point to argue against in a universe of inifinite possibilities who actaul chance increase over time.

[Indifferent Clox]

yeah but it's a conundrum, with no real point. A million Mere cat's could enter your room right now holding their genitals and flailing about wildly discussing Kane Knight's anal lice, but just because it could happen doesn't mean it is as likely to happen.

KK, I don't know, I see people getting interested again soon, I didn't say it's happened yet, but I expect ratings to rise and stay that way. Just my prediction and my opinion.

don't want genital holding mere cats in your room or kane knight anal lice? Vote for me in this years spammys!

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by Indifferent Clox KK, I don't know, I see people getting interested again soon, I didn't say it's happened yet, but I expect ratings to rise and stay that way. Just my prediction and my opinion.

Predictions and opinions have a couple things in common. The one I'm interested in is that they have the most merit when based upon something concrete.

For example, it's an "opinion" that the Earth is flat. It doesn't make it any less laughable, just because someone it entitled to their opinion.

The problem is that you're making this prediction on pretty shaky logic, which is primarily "I like what I'm seeing" and "People at my school seem interested." And it's fine. I'm not disputing that you've enjoy the show, or that you've encountered people who like TNA or are getting interested in it because of what goes on on the same channel. What I'm disputing is what bearing that has on more than you and your circle. I mean, even now, I have no trouble finding people interested in pro wrestling. It means less to me now, because I don't really watch wrestling much anymore (The Raw anniversarry and Jericho's debut aside), but I still find people who watch the shows. That doesn't mean wrestling is booming or will boom, though. Nor does your measure mean anything particular.

Also, while we're talking predictions, I think the odds are better of BDC and Alienoid BOTH getting sex changes in the next two years than wrestling booming in that same time. I'm not saying it's impossible, just that the odds are astronomically against. And if you want, I'll explain why. But I've gone on long enough for one post.

[BigDaddyCool]

No, a million merecats can't not enter my room right now holding their genitals or whatever else. My door is locked. It is possible it may eventually happen. And over time its probablity may increase, but it won't actaully happen right this second.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool No, a million merecats can't not enter my room right now holding their genitals or whatever else. My door is locked. It is possible it may eventually happen. And over time its probablity may increase, but it won't actaully happen right this second.

Is there a gap under your door? I'm not trying to be a smart-ass here, but those things can be mighty slippery. Move some boxes in front of it, just to be sure.

[BigDaddyCool]

Originally Posted by Alienoid06 Is there a gap under your door? I'm not trying to be a smart-ass here, but those things can be mighty slippery. Move some boxes in front of it, just to be sure.

No, there is no gap. It actaully is a little tight with the carpet. Plus, scruffy would scare them off. Scruffy is my girlfriend's dog and he barks at everthing.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool No, there is no gap. It actaully is a little tight with the carpet. Plus, scruffy would scare them off. Scruffy is my girlfriend's dog and he barks at everthing.

The behaviour of the mere cat would imply that Scruffy would scare the shit out of them, and even if they could get through the non-existent gap, then they probably wouldn't choose to do so.

So you're right in saying that it is very unlikely. Although, if they have evolved like KK said, there might be one behind you right now.

[BigDaddyCool]

Originally Posted by Kane Knight They could also have spontaneously evolved to have teleportation capacities. Be afraid, BDC!

Hmmmmm, I need to get my hands on the teleporting merecats and use them for evil.

Originally Posted by Alienoid06 The behaviour of the mere cat would imply that Scruffy would scare the shit out of them, and even if they could get through the non-existent gap, then they probably wouldn't choose to do so. So you're right in saying that it is very unlikely. Although, if they have evolved like KK said, there might be one behind you right now.

Still if they did have the teleporting powers, scruffy would still scare them.

[Theo Dious]

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool No, there is no gap. It actaully is a little tight with the carpet. Plus, scruffy would scare them off. Scruffy is my girlfriend's dog and he barks at everthing.

That is also why I love the caulk.







































WAIT JUST A GOD DAMN MINUTE!!!

[Kane Knight]

Originally Posted by Alienoid06 Is there a gap under your door? I'm not trying to be a smart-ass here, but those things can be mighty slippery. Move some boxes in front of it, just to be sure.

They could also have spontaneously evolved to have teleportation capacities. Be afraid, BDC!

[Indifferent Clox]

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool No, a million merecats can't not enter my room right now holding their genitals or whatever else. My door is locked. It is possible it may eventually happen. And over time its probablity may increase, but it won't actaully happen right this second.

DO NOT LIVE IN FEAR OF THE MERECATS ANY LONGER!

vote for me or the merecats will kill you

[Loose Cannon]

well, going by history, technically, we should be right around it

Wrestling boomed in the mid-late 80's

Wrestling boomed in the late 90's.

2008-2010??

[RVDmark]

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon well, going by history, technically, we should be right around it Wrestling boomed in the mid-late 80's Wrestling boomed in the late 90's. 2008-2010??

By 2009 TNA should have had enough exposure to be big, they just need to step up their game with some quality product. The wrestling is fine, the rest of the program does tend to make heat/velocity look quality.:no:

[BigDaddyCool]

Merecats will not evolve that way. Dolphins will.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Originally Posted by BigDaddyCool Merecats will not evolve that way. Dolphins will.

Thank God there's no water in my house for them to teleport into.

[Theo Dious]

Originally Posted by Alienoid06 Thank God there's no water in my house for them to teleport into.

Dolphins breathe air, you silly wanker.

[Mr. Nerfect]

Originally Posted by DarthTedious Dolphins breathe air, you silly wanker.

Yeah, but their bodies have specifically evolved so they can stick to the water. Unless they suddenly turn into *gasp* apes, then we should have nothing to fear unless they appear in our pools when we are swimming alone.

[BigDaddyCool]

Shut up 'Noid.