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Old 07-08-2008, 09:37 AM   #1
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Here is the thing I don't get...raw spoiler douches.
First I want to say Raw was incredibly boring. They could have had less Cena and more wrestling.

Anyhow, with that said, I know they need a #1 contender, but the 4 possible guy they presented us with 3 are face, 1 is a heel, and they all just lost title matches in the past 2 weeks. I mean both Cena and Batista seem to have an infinite number of title shots they constantly lose. JBL has been in like 3 or 4 title matches in the past 6 months, all loses. And Kane hasn't been a world champion for more than a day a billion years ago. The ECW title doesn't count.

Why can't they bring in more new blood. When the same guys are constantly challenging for the title, it doesn't matter who the champion is.
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Old 07-08-2008, 09:39 AM   #2
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Old 07-08-2008, 09:41 AM   #3
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Just to say I thought the main event match was great. Loved how the crowd were into it, and like how Kane turned heel at the end. CM Punk vs Batista has never been done before in a singles match so at least they are trying fresh main event title matches
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CM Punk has never faced either Cena or Bats in a single match, so techincally it is fresh, and wins over them would help cement his title reign. But still.
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Bats vs. Punk makes sense with Bats laying Edge out before...should be interesting
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Old 07-08-2008, 10:47 AM   #6
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I just hate watching Batista get infinite title shots.

I just laughed back when he defeated Khali or whoever after getting like six different chances. Then the first thing he does is deny Khali another title match and moves on to the next person.

The only thing I dont mind about Batista Vs CM Punk is that as stated previously this is a match we havnt really seen before so its new. I just hope we now dont see Batista Vs Punk as the main event for the next 5 months.
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Old 07-08-2008, 11:12 AM   #7
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Pro Wrestling Illustrated is going to publish an issue dedicated to big dancing dave batista and it is going to be named as " The Story of the Multiple time Number 1 Contender and a 3 time Champion ".
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Old 07-08-2008, 11:20 AM   #8
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I thought RAW was pretty good. Main event was pretty much the same old shit, but overall it's a huge improvement and the Kane segment made me interested in next week's RAW (more so than Punk last week).

I even enjoyed the Cena/Cryme Tyme segment. Never thought I'd be interested in Cena as a face.

As for new blood, they really need to establish Punk at this point. He needs to go over a few big names before he'll be over enough to be able to draw a world title match himself. Once he's there, then they can start elevating new talent for Punk. Until then, it's the older talent that's there to put Punk over. And I'm not just talking this run. This may need to be done over two runs before he'll be at that level.
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I thought RAW was pretty good. Main event was pretty much the same old shit, but overall it's a huge improvement and the Kane segment made me interested in next week's RAW (more so than Punk last week).
Main Event IMO was fresh and good to watch (better than a lot of PPV matches this year)
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Old 07-08-2008, 11:39 AM   #10
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Now is the tiem to start the ball rolling for some new blood, start raising them up slightly because in a few years they are going to need to use these, as if im watching WWE in 3 years time and its still Trips, Batista and Cena that get the majority of the title shots still i know im going to be bored to shit. In the mean time i think a Cena heel turn needs to happen or atleast a chnage in character that makes him come across as more of a bad guy (just in case vince doesnt want to loose his merchendise sales), as well as a strong Batista feud, not for the title, when orton comes back maybe thats a possibility.

The reason why the same old keeps getting the title shots is to keep their egos all happy! What WWE needs to do is write a few decent feuds that still draw without the title, instead of focusing everything on that, leaves a strong feud for the title between 2 people, adding a 3rd in at some time, not having 5 after it at once.

This is probably obvious stuff im writing here, so why isnt it to the WWE.

Also a side point: If Cena wins the WHC and changes it for a stupid spinner title i swear i will stop watching WWE, i wish they would change the damn WWE title back to either the undisputed title or a new (normal) one, i cant stand looking at it on Trips.
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To be fair to Batista, he actually earns most of his title shots. There's a kayfabe reason he keeps coming back for them. It's just crappy from an in-ring perspective, because Batista facing the same guy over and over again is not good unless it is Finlay, MVP or Mr. Kennedy.

Kane really could have used the heel turn during the match, and emerged as an initial challenger for Punk's World Heavyweight Championship, especially considering their history in the ECW brand together. There is time to build to Batista challenging for the WHT.
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To be fair to Batista, he actually earns most of his title shots. There's a kayfabe reason he keeps coming back for them. It's just crappy from an in-ring perspective, because Batista facing the same guy over and over again is not good unless it is Finlay, MVP or Mr. Kennedy.

Kane really could have used the heel turn during the match, and emerged as an initial challenger for Punk's World Heavyweight Championship, especially considering their history in the ECW brand together. There is time to build to Batista challenging for the WHT.
No he doesn't, he comes out and claims he has a right to a title shot. Is given a push over to beat to prove he earns it. Then proceeds not to win.
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Old 07-08-2008, 11:47 AM   #13
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I agree with the Bats thing, only grudgingly. I think it would make much more sence if Edge was challenging CM Punk for a rematch. Plus then it would be face v heel, instead of face v face for the millionth time.
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Old 07-08-2008, 11:53 AM   #14
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First I want to say Raw was incredibly boring.


The highlights of raw i think were the promos/ the main event/kanes heel turn. The matches were shite, though kofi can be entertaining.
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First I want to say Raw was incredibly boring.


The highlights of raw i think were the promos/ the main event/kanes heel turn. The matches were shite, though kofi can be entertaining.
That sums up nearly all of Raw then...
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BTW, I stopped watching when Cryme Tyme and Cena started wrecking up JBL's limo. Actually, to be honest I gave up when Cena wrote "JBL is poopy." It seems pointless and juvenile. I caught the tail end of raw with Bats winning and Kane beating everyone up.

That is another thing I don't get, Cena was in I believe 4 segement, the opening with CM Punk and everyone, completely stealing Punk's thunder. He was in a little thing with Mickie James and Kelly Kelly, and JBL's limo got wrecked up by him and cryme time. I believe he was in the majority of the first hour of raw, then the maineven of Raw, I don't know if he was in anything else. But enough with shoving him down our throats. We get it, he is number 1. Hold him off just a bit so we want to see him instead of being forced to see him.
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He's not actually annoying me much anymore now he's not the champ.
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Yeah, but he is annoying enough.
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I agree it was boring. I tried to sit through the whole thing but couldn't. Who won the main event?
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Dancin' Dave Batista won.
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Old 07-08-2008, 05:05 PM   #21
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Like Lance Storm said, there isn't enough star power on each show to keep the main event/title scene fresh. The brand extension shouldn't GO exactly, but let's be honest here:
A.) Who are we kidding, this "new" ECW is just pissing people off and its just Vince trying to WWEize something he didn't create. Even die-hard ECW fans can't get into that shit. They should just leave any dignity it has left and just wrap it up.
B.) Just RAW & SD! could work, of course there won't be as many commentator jobs open, but i think with bringing the ECW guys onto either RAW or SD! would make each of the wrestlers better with their characters and force them to get in the spotlight or get the F out. Guys like John Morrison, Elijah Burke, (finally, Kofi got pushed) Carlito, Shelton, and others should be at least hunting for the IC/WWE/WHC by now. I'm not saying that they are going to turn ratings into 7 or 8s but hell, it will bring a new fanbase in. Idk why the fuck Burke is not US or IC champ right now.
C.) Team Priceless need to start doing shit their way and be on that nWo type of shit. Dibiase is going to be IC champ by the time Orton comes back so Orton, Dibiase (i don't know if its spelled right so suck me), and Rhodes need to form "League Of Wrestlers" or "Legacy" or "The Fraternity" or some shit.
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I have this terrible feeling that this is leading to Batista taking the World Title and Batista vs. Cena at Summerslam.
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Punk does NOT need to loose his title. I mean, wtf did you put on the title on him for if you are going to make him drop it practically a month later? That's just retarded.

I am honestly ready to see the oldies go and the new wave come in. It's really exciting because i remember how great stuff was when DX came about, when the nWo came out, Crow Sting, SCSA/The Rock.

The ONE thing that i am waiting for is the HBK retirement match. That match is going to be a fucking classic. God damn.
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