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Old 10-29-2008, 01:52 PM   #1
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It's official, John Cena is Vanilla Ice.
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A number of media sources have picked up on the lawsuit filed against John Cena, World Wrestling Entertainment, Sony Music, Stephanie Music (WWE's music publishing company) and several other entities by members of hip hop group The M.O.P. that was first broken last week in the PWInsider.com Elite section during my audio hotline. The lawsuit was filed in the United States District Court of New York earlier this month after communications between the two sides ended in mid-September.

The M.O.P. are upset that a sample of their song "Ante Up" was used in the "My Time is Now (John Cena Theme)" song on Cena's hip hop CD from a few years back and subsequently by World Wrestling Entertainment for Cena's ring entrance theme, on DVDs, CDs, PPV, and ringtones.

Two members of the group, Jamal Grinnage and Eric Murray are claiming that they turned down WWE's request to sample the song and then someone working for Next Level Publishing, a company owned by the third member of M.O.P, Daryl Pittman, then gave clearance when the person in question (who identified himself as the President of the company, but was in actuality just an office worker) did not have the rights to do so. The lawsuit was filed after several letters back and forth to different entities involved resulted in an attorney for World Wrestling Entertainment claiming they had indeed correctly licensed the music to be sampled via Next Level.

Grinnage and Murray, claiming they own 66.6% of the rights to "Ante Up" are requesting damages, that they be ruled the proper owner of the song and that all DVDs, CDs, etc. using the sampled music be recalled and destroyed.

The lawsuit story was picked up yesterday by TMZ.com and is now making the rounds

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Old 10-29-2008, 01:55 PM   #2
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Old 10-29-2008, 02:05 PM   #3
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Cena: See, their song goes ding ding ding-da-da-ding ding. My goes ding ding ding-da-ding ding.
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Old 10-29-2008, 02:10 PM   #4
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ROFL, was gonna post that, but didn't know how
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Yeah, that was the awesomest thing Ice ever said.
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HAHA

Rappers getting butt hurt over someone else sampling their beats.

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I really hope they erase that song like it never existed!
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Old 10-29-2008, 02:38 PM   #9
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Agreed, that would make him a little less annoying.
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Old 10-29-2008, 02:39 PM   #10
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I like Cena's current theme.
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Wouldn't sound good for a theme. It's too fast, he'll pull something spazzing on the ramp.
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Old 10-29-2008, 04:51 PM   #15
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I thought only Davey Boy Smith ever spazzed out on the ramp.
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Old 10-29-2008, 04:54 PM   #16
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lol where is the sample that Cena stole?
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They are bitching about some noise that cant even be properly pronounced.
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Old 10-29-2008, 08:49 PM   #20
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They are bitching about some noise that cant even be properly pronounced.
Pronounce a guitar riff for me..
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Guitar Riff is not a vocal dude..
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Old 10-29-2008, 09:17 PM   #22
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Just because you can not understand what they are saying doesn't mean other people don't..
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Old 10-29-2008, 05:49 PM   #23
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Old 10-29-2008, 05:53 PM   #24
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I actually like Cena's theme music. It's been the best thing about him for like the past 3 years.
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Here's how I see things...
It should be Jamal Grinnage and Eric Murray taking Daryl Pittman to court.
Daryl Pittman was the one to give WWE the go ahead, but he didn't have the right to do so. Cena should go back to Basic Thuganomics (or another song), but pay nothing to the band for their sample.
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It should be Jamal Grinnage and Eric Murray taking Daryl Pittman to court.
Daryl Pittman was the one to give WWE the go ahead, but he didn't have the right to do so. Cena should go back to Basic Thuganomics (or another song), but pay nothing to the band for their sample.
Exactly my thoughts when I read it. If the above story is true then WWE did everything they needed to.
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The group is called "M.O.P.", not "The M.O.P." for the record..

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That song 'Ante Up" isn't bad at all. And I don't listen to rap.
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M.O.P. have a big following of people who mostly listen to rock cause of their stage show.. They always have a mosh pit and stage dive and what not..

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Old 10-29-2008, 09:10 PM   #30
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I won't listen to Hip Hop because... well, it sucks.

But, from what I understand the only part that Cena apparently ripped off was the beginning where somebody says... 'BRRRRRR-ABADOOOO!!!!"

I think it's funny and it's not worth going to court over. If they do win the lawsuit against Cena, Fred Flinstone should take them to court for the resemblance to "Yabba Dabba doooo!!!"
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Old 10-29-2008, 09:17 PM   #31
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Old 10-29-2008, 09:22 PM   #32
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Ok, can you spell it out for me?
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Old 10-29-2008, 09:30 PM   #33
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What is different in what they scream at the beginning of Ante Up, and what Ozzy laughs then yelps at the beginning of Crazy Train??

Not a God damn thing but you don't hear alot of Hip Hop fans hating on that..
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Has there been a lawsuit where someone claimed Ozzy stole that noise from them? Or vice-versa?
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Has there been a lawsuit where someone claimed Ozzy stole that noise from them? Or vice-versa?
What does that have anything to do with you claiming you can't pronounce it or whatever you were trying to say??
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Seriousl;y, I feel like alot of you assholes have to constantly try to prove something about Hip Hop in general and come across looking more like close minded fools than anything else..

Just like King of Oldschool making cracks about sampling.. Like 90% of rock riffs have been used before.. Same with drum beats..

You are not better than anyone else cause you don't like Hip Hop..

Get over yourselves..
[color="silver"] All this over merely stating its a sound that is either impossible, or very difficult to write out/pronounce.

Then you went away from the issue asking to pronounce a guitar riff, which is impossible since its not vocal, then you went off to something else.

I dont see the argument you are trying to make here, all I meant by what I said is its a sound that I dont think can even be spelt.

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What does that have anything to do with you claiming you can't pronounce it or whatever you were trying to say??
What does pronouncing a guitar riff have to do with not being able to pronounce a vocal noise?
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Old 10-29-2008, 10:02 PM   #37
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[color="silver"] All this over merely stating its a sound that is either impossible, or very difficult to write out/pronounce.

Then you went away from the issue asking to pronounce a guitar riff, which is impossible since its not vocal, then you went off to something else.

I dont see the argument you are trying to make here, all I meant by what I said is its a sound that I dont think can even be spelt.



What does pronouncing a guitar riff have to do with not being able to pronounce a vocal noise?
I didn't read the post stating that it wasn't the beat in question..

When I first read your post about pronouncing it, I thought we were talking about the beat..

Why does it matter if you can pronounce it or not is my question?? You stated that like you were looking down on Hip Hop.. If a band made a song where the singer was violently growled over a drop g or whatever Korn plays in, Korn would have a viable law suite for them ripping off Twist, when you can not pronounce a single word in that entire song, minus "twist"..
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Old 10-29-2008, 09:33 PM   #38
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Seriousl;y, I feel like alot of you assholes have to constantly try to prove something about Hip Hop in general and come across looking more like close minded fools than anything else..

Just like King of Oldschool making cracks about sampling.. Like 90% of rock riffs have been used before.. Same with drum beats..

You are not better than anyone else cause you don't like Hip Hop..

Get over yourselves..
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Old 10-29-2008, 09:41 PM   #39
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I think he's trying to say how can a law suit being put against somebody for using a word in a song that can't even be pronounced correctly. Pretty horrible arguement, tbh. Pretty obvious they took it directly from that song, no matter what sound it was.
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That is the point.. If someone had used a laugh and yelp like the one in Crazy Train, I'm sure there would be a lawsuit..
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