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Old 12-03-2008, 11:31 PM   #1
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Bold prediction for Jack Swagger
I'll go out on a limb and say it. Jack Swagger is the next Randy Orton. They seem to be similar. He's decent in the ring, ok on the mic and actually has charisma during a match. He's got the size that WWE likes, big but not ripped. All just like Randy Orton.

I like his character. He's not quite crazy, just a little. Some people might hate that he smiles all the time but I find it a refreshing way to play a heel. Most of all his reaction to Ricky Ortiz's music playing last Tuesday was probably the best I've ever seen. He didn't just keep talking or act surprised like everyone else does. Of all the new superstars in ECW I think he's got the best chance to turn in to something big.

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Old 12-04-2008, 12:05 AM   #2
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Old 12-04-2008, 12:06 AM   #3
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Old 12-04-2008, 12:39 AM   #4
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I said a while ago that Swagger will be a world champ within a year. This guys has "it"
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Old 12-04-2008, 04:00 AM   #5
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I haven't seen Jack Swagger until I saw that You Tube video.

I like him......I like him a lot. He has the "it" factor from what I see.

He reminds me of a mix between Randy Orton and Kurt Angle.

I don't know what his wrestling ability is like, but this guy seems to be the goods.
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Old 12-04-2008, 05:33 AM   #11
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Looks okay.
Check out the Extreme Rules match between him and Tommy Dreamer in my Match of the Week Poll...
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IMO drop the "All-american-american" thing.
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Old 12-04-2008, 11:35 AM   #14
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IMO drop the "All-american-american" thing.
No way in hell this gimmick would fly in the main event, but for a "starter" gimmick it's fine.

That said, I do think he has that "it" factor. I haven't seen very much of him but he seems to have a natural charisma about him, is big and has a good in-ring style. These will be the factors that will take him to the top. Very top? Maybe not, but I can see him being a big player on RAW or SmackDown! sometime in 2010.
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I don't see why people aren't digging the "All-American American" thing. It's just a witty attachment to Swagger's name to point out his amateur background and to prevent him from being "just a name." There's nothing offensive about it.

What I really like about Swagger, is the way he is actually playing a jerk. He's not just a guy we're meant to boo because Todd Grisham tells us to (for example) -- we actually have reason to want to see this guy get his ass kicked. He's making those who watch him care.

He seems to be going after Matt Hardy's ECW Championship. To be honest, I think he may win it. I personally think it is too early, but I have the feeling the WWE wants to move the belt off Hardy soon. It seems they hinted William Regal, switched to Vladimir Kozlov, and are now teasing Jack Swagger for it.

A suggestion for Jack Swagger: I'd like to see Swagger team up with Dolph Ziggler. They just seem quite a good fit, at the moment, and both on the rise so early into their stints. Putting them together could help slow them down and give them some great exposure. Fuck, let them hold the World Tag Team Championship on RAW and the WWE Tag Team Championship on SmackDown!. Really go all-out with them as a duo. I had this idea before I saw Ziggler on RAW, simply because he didn't seem to be heading towards anything there -- now I want to see it even more.
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I don't see why people aren't digging the "All-American American" thing. It's just a witty attachment to Swagger's name to point out his amateur background and to prevent him from being "just a name." There's nothing offensive about it.
When you say people, do you mean Volare? He is the only person in the thread that doesn't like the gimmick. Everyone else said it is fine for where he is. You are so fucking retarded.
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When you say people, do you mean Volare? He is the only person in the thread that doesn't like the gimmick. Everyone else said it is fine for where he is. You are so fucking retarded.
And even Volare didn't say anything particularly negative about it. While Volare may think it's horrible, the statement left it wide open for interpretation.
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I could see Swagger being in a World Title picture in the future. He probably won't win the belt, maybe a U.S. or Intercontinental reign, but could be a part of the #1 Contender rotation. I'm trying to think of an equivalent that he could resemble, but I don't see him as the next Orton.
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Can we get stricter spamming rules? Just to shut Xero and BDC up. They've added next to nothing relevant on Jack Swagger.
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LOL, rules on TPWW. That'll be the day.

"They've added next to nothing relevant on Jack Swagger. "

Really? Could have sworn I made a post up there about it. So if you're going to use that, neither have you for the past two posts.
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LOL, rules on TPWW. That'll be the day.

"They've added next to nothing relevant on Jack Swagger. "

Really? Could have sworn I made a post up there about it. So if you're going to use that, neither have you for the past two posts.
Learn the meaning of the phrase "next to nothing." You've added very little when you look at the ratio of your posts; BDC nothing. The difference between you and me is that I'm trying to get the topic back onto Swagger.

So shut the fuck up, and talk about Jack Swagger.
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Old 12-04-2008, 12:28 PM   #29
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Learn the meaning of the phrase "next to nothing." You've added very little when you look at the ratio of your posts; BDC nothing. The difference between you and me is that I'm trying to get the topic back onto Swagger.

So shut the fuck up, and talk about Jack Swagger.
Relevant Posts, Me: 3
Relevant Posts, You: 1

Your move.

I think Jack Swagger can go somewhere if he were in TNA. Main event easily.
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Old 12-04-2008, 12:24 PM   #30
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From what I have seen of Swagger, he is very average. And since noid likes him, that means he will go nowhere and be released some time next year after the forget to use him for like 6 months. He will either get injured or violate the wellness program after the start of his push, which will lead to him being forgot about for 6 months.

Then TNA will pick him up. He will do decent, get back in WWE and remain in midcarder hell.

Shut up noid.
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Old 12-04-2008, 12:33 PM   #31
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From what I have seen of Swagger, he is very average. And since noid likes him, that means he will go nowhere and be released some time next year after the forget to use him for like 6 months. He will either get injured or violate the wellness program after the start of his push, which will lead to him being forgot about for 6 months.

Then TNA will pick him up. He will do decent, get back in WWE and remain in midcarder hell.

Shut up noid.
Seeing as I can see value in almost every employee on the WWE roster, wouldn't that mean they'd all be released sometime next year?

Xero, you may be right, but I think Swagger is a big boy naturally. Nothing would surprise me (if Chavo and Funaki can get done for them, anyone can). I'd be more worried about Dolph Ziggler again, though.

Hasney, I don't care when topics expand to cover more areas, but I am sick and tired of seeing good threads de-railed because of the same few idiots taking issue with me posting. I don't mind them disagreeing with me (hell, I'd prefer it if BDC did -- it means I'm heading on the right track), I just don't think it is fair to people who actually want to go into a thread and not have to see Noid vs. BDC/Xero/KK all the time.
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Old 12-04-2008, 03:17 PM   #32
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Seeing as how my name's going to come up more times than Jack Swagger's anyway....

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[...B]ut I am sick and tired of seeing good threads de-railed because of the same few idiots taking issue with me posting.
Noid, it's not that you post, it's what you post. And considering you claim you intentionally post like that to get a rise out of the same few "idiots," can you seriously be all that pissed?

On the topic, Swagger strikes me as utterly forgetable. He's not bad, and he might end up being one of those forgettable guys who goes somewhere for a while, but that's all I can see him. I wouldn't be shitting bricks if he got a big push (I even like the All-American-American gimmick to an extent), but I don't really expect it, either.
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Old 12-04-2008, 12:25 PM   #33
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I could EASILY see Swagger being a victim of the Wellness policy.
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Old 12-04-2008, 12:28 PM   #34
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*sigh* The restarting of the Noid vs BDC war. I LOVE THE INTERNET!
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Old 12-04-2008, 12:38 PM   #35
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*sigh* The restarting of the Noid vs BDC war. I LOVE THE INTERNET!
Thank you, Volare. I think I'm going to be done acknowledging his existence from now on.

But just for the record:

Xero, you can't count. You made two posts regarding the topic. I've made two, but the rest were calling for it to go back to the topic after you made posts off-topic.

We're at least on equal ground as far as "Relevant Posts" go. I beat you in the "not being a cunt" field. And just so you know -- no more "moves." I'm done with you, also. When someone is actually less funny than KK, you know they're miserable.
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Old 12-04-2008, 12:30 PM   #36
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1) Me telling someone like noid to shut up isn't a war.

2) I've been nothing but spam since day 1 and AAA loves me, I ain't going anywhere.
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1)The thread was derailed before I ever post. More often than not, your 5 page posts derail a thread because no one want to read how you think some lame wrestler should be pushed to the moon.

2) Maybe if you quit posting like an ass, people like me, xero, and kk would quit riding your ass. This is a 2 way street.
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Old 12-04-2008, 12:48 PM   #39
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1)The thread was derailed before I ever post. More often than not, your 5 page posts derail a thread because no one want to read how you think some lame wrestler should be pushed to the moon.

2) Maybe if you quit posting like an ass, people like me, xero, and kk would quit riding your ass. This is a 2 way street.
Seeing as you actually make points here:

1) Four small paragraphs do not equate to a five-page post, moron. You are moronic. You cannot read, you cannot write...you are an idiot, BDC. That doesn't mean other people are. Show them some consideration. Some people actually read my posts, and give me positive or constructive feedback on them. If no one did that, I'd stop, and go to better wrestling forums. Unfortunately for you, some people here actually like to talk about wrestling -- deal with it.

2) Posting like an ass? You mean actually thinking and feeling something about what I post? What was "ass" about my post? Other than it was too long for you to read. Keep in mind, I do not care about the idiot demographic as much as I do the one that nurtures discussion and exchange of ideas. What's "ass" is you not being able to keep your bitter spite under control for at least one thread occasionally.

If you, KK and Xero hate me so much, pretend I don't exist. I'd be more than happy to do the same to you. I'm just sick of discussions being culled off because some idiots haunt the wrestling forums. Xero and KK at least sometimes discuss things with you. I'll give you maybe one intelligent post per month -- if that?

Anyway, now I am done. I couldn't give a fuck what you reply with next. Changing gears completely:

What does everyone think of Jack Swagger's Gutwrench Powerbomb as a finisher? Is it too generic, or does Swagger pull it off OK?
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Know what I love about Noid? That even though we're clearly not going away, he goes off on us and does exactly what he tells us not to do. If he despised what we did so much he'd be the one ignoring us and not derailing threads even further.
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