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Old 01-05-2009, 12:05 PM   #1
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I want to upgrade to 64 bit Vista from 32 bit
Hello "Tech Forum".

I know Requiem just did this so I could post in his topic, but I didn't.

Basically, I heard that 32 bit Vista only recognizes up to 2 GB of RAM? Is this true? My system says I have 3GB and apparently "recognizes" it. Is it not using the extra GB or what?

Pretty much for this reason, I want to upgrade to 64 bit and buy some more RAM. Any suggestions on the cheapest way to go about this? On newegg they have an OEM version of Vista for like $99. Good? Or should I not buy OEM or what?

Also, how much of a difference would it make? Like is it worth it to spend the $150 or whatever I am gonna spend? Right now my RAM usage is always above 50%. When Windows first loads, it's at like 44% already with virtually nothing running and nothing really in the system tray. And if I have Firefox open for a while without closing it, it goes up to like 67% and starts to get all slow and it is pissing me off.

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Old 01-05-2009, 12:12 PM   #2
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I do believe that 32-bit recognizes up to 4GB. I have 3GB in my machine now, it works fine. I dont believe you play high end games or the such as I sometimes do. So what exactly would you need the extra ram for?

Also if its a case of memory usage and your using Mozilla to surf the web. Do this.

CTRL+ALT+DELETE
Click on Task Manager
Click on (If its there) - IEXPLORER.EXE (make sure its NOT explorer.exe)
Click end program

What you just did was close Internet Explorer, which shouldnt be a problem since you are using Mozilla, usually renders me about a 10-15% drop in Memory usage.

I would also suggest closing your sidebar.exe too if you are not using it, that thing is a memory sink on mine.
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32-bit recognizes up to 4gb of RAM. 3 is the recommended maximum though, as some types of hardware will take up the other gb of address space.

An OEM version is fine, but you won't be able to upgrade to the 64 bit version from the 32 bit version with it, so you'll have to reformat your PC (easiest way) or re-partition it (a little more complex). If you can back up your data to another HD, your all set.

The speed will be noticeable. Even if you didn't upgrade your RAM, the system should be running quite a bit nicer in 64-bit mode.

To be honest though, if it's not pissing you off that much, you could hold off until Windows 7 comes out later this year and upgrade to that. It's already faster and will save you buying two OSs in quick succession.
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Old 01-05-2009, 12:17 PM   #4
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Fallen Angel no offense but what the fuck is your problem. Why did you just suggest I close Internet Explorer when I said I was using Firefox?

Anyway I do a lot of video editing and stuff and apparently After Effects and Premiere only use up to 2GB of RAM on 32 bit Vista.

I guess I will just wait til Windows 7 though.
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Fallen Angel no offense but what the fuck is your problem. Why did you just suggest I close Internet Explorer when I said I was using Firefox?

Anyway I do a lot of video editing and stuff and apparently After Effects and Premiere only use up to 2GB of RAM on 32 bit Vista.

I guess I will just wait til Windows 7 though.
My problem? What the fuck is your problem bro, I am trying to help you here.

You may NOT be using Internet Explorer, however it COULD still be going as a process even though you are NOT using it. I know that when I restart my computer it is in my task manager as a process and I never do use it, so I close it. My computer runs noticeably faster and I see a 10-15% decrease in memory usage.

Your welcome jackass.
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My problem? What the fuck is your problem bro, I am trying to help you here.

You may NOT be using Internet Explorer, however it COULD still be going as a process even though you are NOT using it. I know that when I restart my computer it is in my task manager as a process and I never do use it, so I close it. My computer runs noticeably faster and I see a 10-15% decrease in memory usage.

Your welcome jackass.
Sounds like it's a Trojan or virus.

EDIT: Just checked and ya. Internet Explorer should not run on start-up. ON top of that, "iexplore.exe" is the correct program (no caps or 'r' on the end). "IEXPLORER.EXE" is a trojan. I found a fix, tho (This is for XP, if you're running Vista, it may work too)

you have a password stealing banker trojan

Please read all these instructions very carefully before starting the fix

Step 1. Close/disable all anti virus and anti malware programs so they do not interfere with the running of SDfix and make sure you are disconnected from the net before starting any of these programs
  • Very Important! Temporarily disable your anti-virus, script blocking and any anti-malware real-time protection before performing a scan. They can interfere withSDfix and remove some of their embedded files which may cause "unpredictable results".
  • Remember to re enable the protection again afterwards before connecting to the net


Download SDFix and save it to your Desktop.

Double click SDFix.exe and it will extract the files to %systemdrive%
(Drive that contains the Windows Directory, typically C:\SDFix)

Please then reboot your computer in Safe Mode by doing the following :
  • Restart your computer
  • After hearing your computer beep once during startup, but before the Windows icon appears, tap the F8 key continually;
  • Instead of Windows loading as normal, the Advanced Options Menu should appear;
  • Select the first option, to run Windows in Safe Mode, then press Enter.
  • Choose your usual account.
  • Open the extracted SDFix folder and double click RunThis.cmd to start the script.
  • Type Y to begin the cleanup process.
  • It will remove any Trojan Services and Registry Entries that it finds then prompt you to press any key to Reboot.
  • Press any Key and it will restart the PC.
  • When the PC restarts the Fixtool will run again and complete the removal process then display Finished, press any key to end the script and load your desktop icons.
  • Once the desktop icons load the SDFix report will open on screen and also save into the SDFix folder as Report.txt


http://forums.techguy.org/malware-re...100-cpu-2.html
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Old 01-05-2009, 02:20 PM   #7
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Wow! Fixing problems he didn't even know he had!

The tech forum truely is magnificent!

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If you get bored and want a tiny bit more speed now, czech this out

http://www.tweakvista.com/VistaPerformanceTweaks.aspx
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It is because you obviously did something retarded with your computer. Internet Explorer doesn't run by default, dickhead.
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IE doesn't appear on mine either.
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That is on my old computer, maybe thats why it is a useless piece of crap.

Thanks Hasney. Once I actually get around to trying to fix that piece of shit, Ill at least know one thing that was wrong with it.

Trips, Yeah I looked like an idiot. I was wrong, but man I was only trying to help you out bro, so I dont know why you were so hostile...
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Step 1 - Don't pay for Windows. Overpriced as fuck, and unnecessary.

Step 2- I don't know..

32-bit will read up to 4 gigs, including RAM and GPU memory. It's really not needed with your current setup, but 64-bit -will- run faster all around. It means the operating system is able to make 64-bit calculations instead of 32-bit..

For example, 32-bit Vista Home can only read like 4GB RAM, while x64 I believe can read like 128GB of memory. Just as an example of how different that is..

I've heard good things comparatively between the low-end and high-end versions of Vista.. Apparently the higher you go, the better Vista is. I absolutely love Vista Ultimate, which is something I never thought I'd say. I was pretty anti-Vista before, but I love this. So yeah, it would be worth it to upgrade probably.. but it would also be worth it to just wait for Windows 7 and upgrade to 64-bit then.
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Old 01-05-2009, 05:10 PM   #14
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Did you download Vista then? From torrents or what?

And what is it, cracked or what? Like how does that work? I thought it was way harder to pirate Vista? You can get updates and everything?
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Yeah. I got mine from Pirate Bay. DS and I have both been using the same download of Ultimate x64. You burn it, run the CD/DVD during format like you would normally just formatting/installing an OS. After installing, you run the crack and it activates Windows. I can run updates and everything.
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Hmm. Found one on Demonoid that doesn't even need a crack or activation apparently.

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It is in a .daa format, so you would need to convert it to .iso before you burn it, which I've never done so I'm not familiar with it. If you can find one in .iso format that would be best.

It really is the best option, because Ultimate is ridiculously overpriced. Fuck, Windows is overpriced. You can build a new PC for just a little more than it costs just for the freaking operating system.
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For the most part, driver support is better for 64-bit stuff. I still have a few things that are doomed to be forever without 64-bit drivers (my Hauppauge PVR-250), but it is a lot better than it was four years ago.
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