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View Poll Results: Which annoyed you most?
The treatment of Orton and the manner of HHH winning 25 35.21%
HHH winning in general 4 5.63%
Cena winning 1 1.41%
The tag match being dropped 19 26.76%
CM Punk winning MITB again 4 5.63%
Kid Rock 13 18.31%
No ECW championship defence 1 1.41%
Rey's match being ridiculously short 0 0%
The commentary team 0 0%
Loose Cannon 4 5.63%
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Old 04-06-2009, 07:18 AM   #1
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Which annoyed you most about WM25?
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Old 04-06-2009, 07:38 AM   #2
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They should have just let Jericho face Chavo Classic instead of wasting him at Booker T's fanfest
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Old 04-06-2009, 07:38 AM   #3
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So the finish is a sledgehammer shot and a pedigree with you controlling most of the match with hardly any intensity and your usual match set up?

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Old 04-06-2009, 07:47 AM   #4
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Chris Jericho being knocked out by Mickey Rourke really unsettled me, and was the first hiccough on what I thought was a pretty sweet night (it's getting way too much bitching), but the Tag Team Title Match making the card would have been sweet. Same goes for something like Jack Swagger vs. Christian. The Brian Kendrick or R-Truth could have easily been in Money in the Bank.
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Old 04-06-2009, 07:59 AM   #5
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The first hour of the show was fucking awful which killed the crowd,imo. (until hbk/taker)
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Old 04-06-2009, 08:03 AM   #6
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Michael Cole was so bad last night, I mean obviously JR and King were trying to make him look like a complete retard, but the fact is, he is a complete retard. Every little comment he makes are just cringe worthy.

It was approaching 4 in the morning, so I'm going to have to watch the Main Event again, but it did seem pretty bizarre.

Other than Kid Rock sucking and the odd presentation of the Divas Battle Royal, I really liked the show.
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Michael Cole was so bad last night, I mean obviously JR and King were trying to make him look like a complete retard, but the fact is, he is a complete retard. Every little comment he makes are just cringe worthy.
JR was terrible too. 50% of the time it felt like he had read the dictionary the night before and was trying his best to fit his new words in. The other 50% he was just making words up.
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Old 04-06-2009, 08:07 AM   #8
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Matt Striker should have been doing commentary. The team they used did make sense, but Jim Ross, Jerry Lawler & Matt Striker would have made a fantastic commentary team. Lawler as more the emotion color guy, Striker as an analystical one, JR as JR, and all three brands being represented.
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Old 04-06-2009, 08:09 AM   #9
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...and all three brands being represented.
I don't think there was a single mention of the ECW brand last night. Not even during the recap of the Hardy feud.
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Old 04-06-2009, 08:14 AM   #10
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I don't think there was a single mention of the ECW brand last night. Not even during the recap of the Hardy feud.
Probably not. ECW did have Divas in the Battle Royal; they had guys in MITB and they do have a talent exchange with RAW and SmackDown!. ECW being represented in the booth may not have been crucial or anything, but it would have been better than two RAW guys and a SmackDown! guy. For mere quality alone.
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Old 04-06-2009, 08:20 AM   #11
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To be honest Noid, I didn't even identify that there was ECW talent in the ring, probably because there was no obvious verbal reference to it from the commentary team. The biggest burial last night wasn't Orton; it was a weekly C-show on the Sci-Fi channel which is about as important to the long term business model of the WWE as an unwanted Kid Rock performance.
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Old 04-06-2009, 08:27 AM   #12
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I agree with you. Almost all the matches were split-brand shit, though. Brand representation meant very little in the scheme of things. I haven't watched the main event yet, but did the commentary team make a deal about which brands the guys were from? For example, if I were Michael Cole or Jerry Lawler, I would have definitely been pulling for John Cena to win the Triple Threat Match, and talk about how he was going to bring the gold home to RAW. That sort of stuff didn't really come up in the angle, at all.

From the undercard stuff, the biggest brand reference I remember being made, was one that I have to make up myself. JBL and Rey Mysterio got special introductions (well, introductions when they were both in the ring) for their title match. That could have been just for effect (most likely), or because it was a title match at Mania, or because the belt has technically headlined the PPV before; but part of me likes to think it was because the IC Title was the highest ranked belt on RAW at the time.

I know that's not the case, but it's a little backstory I like to add.
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Old 04-06-2009, 08:31 AM   #13
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Yeh, that's entirely you.

I think they might have done full introductions to lengthen the build-up to the match as way to emphasise how short the actual match was in comparison; and therefore greatly exaggerate the shock and impact of Rey's flawless victory.
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Old 04-06-2009, 08:36 AM   #14
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Well, that would be it. I'd like to throw it into 411's Hidden Highlights, though.

But am I the only one that was bothered by Chris Jericho getting punked by Mickey Rourke?
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Old 04-06-2009, 08:40 AM   #15
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Yup. He was a boxer, why not smack him?
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Old 04-06-2009, 08:43 AM   #16
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Because it makes boxing look better than wrestling? I mean, sure, maybe a legit boxer could legit knock out a wrestler, but does the WWE really need to play that up themselves?

By the way, I was fully okay with Rourke getting involved and smacking Jericho one, but I don't like the way they did it. With Jericho trying to fight Rourke, and it actually looking fair. Rourke surprising Jericho mid-match with it while the referee was looking, or getting some cheap shots in on Jericho would have been glorious. Flair could have low blowed Jericho before Rourke had knocked him out.

I felt the whole thing made Rourke > Jericho > Ric Flair > Ricky Steamboat > Roddy Piper > Jimmy Snuka.
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Old 04-06-2009, 08:56 AM   #17
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What annoyed me most was the number of annoying things.

The show was like a flame struggling to survive in the wind, there were moments of light before it began to fade and HHH blew it out once and for all.
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Old 04-06-2009, 09:18 AM   #18
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I felt the whole thing made Rourke > Jericho > Ric Flair > Ricky Steamboat > Roddy Piper > Jimmy Snuka.
I don't think it did. Firstly, Jericho had just gone through quite a long match, had beaten three legends and could be excused for being exhausted. Rourke was taking on an already beaten-down Jericho and got a cheap win. Secondly, everyone knows Rourke was going to knock Y2J down - it doesn't matter. It's not going to do Jericho any long-term damage to have been caught off guard by a cheap shot from a former boxer.

Butterbean did more harm to the image of pro-wrestling than Rourke could ever do.
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Alright, this thread rocks.

1. I understand the obvious reasons, but does anyone else think that its dumb when celebrities are involved in wrestling, most of them own the wrestlers? Aside from Kevin Federline, I can't think of any in recent memory (but then again, I am a wrestling fan, so I forget everything within 2-3 months)

2. Triple H owning Orton after weeks of owning him. Was this really the original plan? Was there a plan?

3. Rey has got to find better things to do.

4. Kid Rock dancing with Kelly Kelly and getting a kiss from Maryse. What a bastard.
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3. Rey has got to find better things to do.
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Old 04-06-2009, 10:11 AM   #21
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I went with Loose Cannon only because there wasn't an "All of the Above" option.

Seriously, I called Orton getting Jericho'd from more or less the onset. Poor Randy.

You know, "Spoiler: Cena Wins" isn't a good thing.

I'm almost surprised that Hunter didn't put in a word to have HBM end Taker's streak.

Steamboat-Jericho sounded great. Too bad Piper and Snuka had to be part of it.

Punk? not great, but better than Mark Henry.

No ECW Title Match, No Tag Title match, but Kid Rock? WTF?
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I went with Loose Cannon only because there wasn't an "All of the Above" option.

Seriously, I called Orton getting Jericho'd from more or less the onset. Poor Randy.

You know, "Spoiler: Cena Wins" isn't a good thing.

I'm almost surprised that Hunter didn't put in a word to have HBM end Taker's streak.

Steamboat-Jericho sounded great. Too bad Piper and Snuka had to be part of it.

Punk? not great, but better than Mark Henry.

No ECW Title Match, No Tag Title match, but Kid Rock? WTF?


i wants to agree with you on that one but maybe TRIPLE H wants to take that away from the undertaker or maybe it'll never happen who knows, but that'll be my guest triple h probably wants to pull that one off.
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I hated that they pulled the tag match, mainly because I was really looking forward to it, but also because they made NO MENTION OF IT WHATSOEVER. It was like they expected people to forget it was ever supposed to be on the show, and it was a freakin' tag title unification match.
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I was also very annoyed that when Ricky Steamboat skinned the cat, the camera was elsewhere.
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I just felt like it was a pretty ordinary PPV, which it shouldn't be.

I'd hyped myself up, booked the morning off work, got some beers ready......and sat to watch a fairly average show.

What was the point of having Henry in MITB anyway? He didn't do....anything.
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Henry was used as something for Hornswoggle to jump off of.
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Old 04-06-2009, 10:19 AM   #29
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I actually thought MITB was fun. Could have been better, but could have been way worse.

HBM/Taker was obviously fantastic. 'Nuff said.

And aside from those matches, I'll probably forget every other match from 'Mania by the end of the week.
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Old 04-06-2009, 10:23 AM   #30
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To be honest, the fact that they reduced the divas to a comedy segment I guess. They've been taking their time to build the womens divisions and then it goes back to someone dressed in drag at WM. I dunno, seemed like they don't really give anyone a real reason to care about women's wrestling, so why bother at all.
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Old 04-06-2009, 10:25 AM   #31
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What pissed me off was that the former divas only got mentioned after they were elminated. Thank you WWE for pissing in the face of former Divas who paved the way, including former great champions like Molly Holly. WTF?!?

Maybe, HHH actually had that ending planned out for the rest of the backstage to see just how shitty the writing and match conclusions/ what nots have been, so what better way of making a statement than at the Main Event of Wrestlemania?
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Old 04-06-2009, 11:25 AM   #32
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Old 04-06-2009, 11:51 AM   #33
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Taker/Michaels was awesome. I love watching it so much I will be getting written up at work for watching it... Calling my shot!
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Old 04-06-2009, 12:43 PM   #34
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I say Orton/Triple H was them both being pricks because it looked each man was not even trying.
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Old 04-06-2009, 12:44 PM   #35
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How come the Divas match is not on the poll it was a piece of shit.
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Old 04-06-2009, 01:36 PM   #36
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How come the Divas match is not on the poll it was a piece of shit.
again, Kane86 complaining about women being shown


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Old 04-06-2009, 12:49 PM   #37
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Kid Rock. By far.

Also, as for the Divas match, did anyone else notice the retards started at what should have been the announcer's bell and not the match bell?
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I am not complaining about women being shown but its Mania they could at least put forth some kind of effort.
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