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Old 12-03-2009, 11:04 PM   #1
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Possible TLC *spoiler*
WWE's annual Tribute to the Troops event was held today and during the taping, Cena did a promo with Sheamus and said when "I [Cena] get my rematch...." Neither came down with the belt, but, since the tribute show airs 6 days after the PPV, it seems like they may be foreshadowing that Sheamus is going to win at the PPV.

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Old 12-03-2009, 11:08 PM   #2
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Wow.
I really can't see Sheamus with the title. Not yet.

Having said that, I'm inclined to agree that the title may be 'held up' in some way and 'vacant'.
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I really can't see Sheamus with the title. Not yet.

Having said that, I'm inclined to agree that the title may be 'held up' in some way and 'vacant'.
Maybe they both go through the Table at the same time?

Maybe instead of a rematch, just have the winner of the Royal Rumble become champion instead of getting a title shot at WM?
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Oh just repost it here, you lazy bastard.
Actually, Droford's response makes a lot more sense so I'm gonna say that I said the same thing (almost).

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Maybe they both go through the Table at the same time?

Maybe instead of a rematch, just have the winner of the Royal Rumble become champion instead of getting a title shot at WM?
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On Raw, Cena said that even if he lost...his re-match would take place immediately after. Methinks that was just a segment ran in the interest of making the troops aware of the storyline.......some of the lines will probably be cut out.

They prolly just didn't want to bring the belt overseas.
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Good point, forgot about that.
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No, they didn't have them with the belts because it would spoil TLC. You're going to tell me they'll take the ring but not the titles? Or at the very least a replica? Come on...

I could see him winning, honestly, and holding it until Elimination Chamber where he loses it to a new contender.
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Or, possibly the match has a controversial ending and the title is held up the next night? I dunno. I could see heels from all 3 shows helping Sheamus win, if he did....and the win gets "nullified" or something.
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Old 12-04-2009, 06:57 AM   #10
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Or, possibly the match has a controversial ending and the title is held up the next night? I dunno. I could see heels from all 3 shows helping Sheamus win, if he did....and the win gets "nullified" or something.
Unless both men somehow go through a table at the same time (at which point the logical thing would seem to be to continue the match,) I don't see how there could be a controversial ending.

Sheamus with the title, even for a month, a week, or a day, would shake things up and make them intereting. I'd really like to see it.
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Unless both men somehow go through a table at the same time (at which point the logical thing would seem to be to continue the match,) I don't see how there could be a controversial ending.
Maybe Cena puts Sheamus through a table, but the referee is out cold. Then Cena gets bum-rushed by a frustrated locker room and put through a table. The ref wakes up to see both men laying in the rubble of broken tables and calls it a draw. Sort of like the Taker/Yoko casket match from the '94 Rumble, but without the creepy ascension thing. Then, as mentioned earlier, you can put the vacant title on the line at the Rumble.
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I could believe something like that. The rematch happens at the Rumble.

I do think they're building Sheamus to be a real threat (owning jobbers for the build or not) and to have him lose would suck for him.
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Only problem, and it's a small one, with "holding up" the title is that there's noone with any authority to do that on Raw right now. Vince COULD do it, but he's been more busy with Teddy Long on SD! recently and letting the Hosts run things.

Unless whoever's host the night after the PPV actually is scheduled to make that ruling...
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isn't the Raw after the PPV the 3 hour Slammy Edition being hosted by Dennis Miller?
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Old 12-04-2009, 12:22 AM   #17
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I think they will have Sheamus win at TLC to give him that boost into that regular main event spot, then drop it right back to Cena at Royal Rumble so he can carry it to Wrestlemania. This way Sheamus has a record of being a World Champ and headlining a couple of PPV's so he will blend in easier when he wrestles other main eventers like Batista, Undertaker, Orton, etc.
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Old 12-04-2009, 12:35 AM   #18
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I think they will have Sheamus win at TLC to give him that boost into that regular main event spot, then drop it right back to Cena at Royal Rumble so he can carry it to Wrestlemania. This way Sheamus has a record of being a World Champ and headlining a couple of PPV's so he will blend in easier when he wrestles other main eventers like Batista, Undertaker, Orton, etc.
I don't agree with a lot of stuff you say on here, but this time I think that's actually a very highly likely scenario. Keep his undefeated streak intact for a while, then maybe have Cena win it back with the old standby stipulation of "if ______ loses by DQ or count-out, his opponent becomes new champion" for their Rumble re-match. Then just have Sheamus get really pissed when he can't win with any of his moves, and have him finally snap and beat the living hell out of Cena with a chair until he (Sheamus) had to be escorted out of the building by security or something.

This would also give him way more heat than currently, and maybe create a "controversy" about his undefeated streak, in which the next night on RAW, Sheamus comes out, claims he never lost, and then have somebody from the back come out, let's say Carlito, and talk about how much better he is than Sheamus because he beat Cena his first night in the company to win the U.S. Championship, and have it set up a match between the two for #1 Contender's spot vs. Cena, and have Carlito go over with a fluke win.

Just an idea.
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I just think there has to be a title win for Sheamus at TLC, there has to be a reason why he would go from Jamie Noble to John Cena. Putting him in that feud with Cena and not putting the strap on him would make no sense. They want Cena to make Sheamus at TLC. This kind of reminds me of the situation they had when The Rock dropped the belt to Brock Lesnar at SummerSlam 2002, Brock had only been around for about 5 months when he won it although he did mix it up with other big talents like Hogan and RVD before he got to Rock at SummerSlam. If anything Sheamus should have been involved with some other bigger names before they just put him with the biggest star in the company.
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I just think there has to be a title win for Sheamus at TLC, there has to be a reason why he would go from Jamie Noble to John Cena. Putting him in that feud with Cena and not putting the strap on him would make no sense. They want Cena to make Sheamus at TLC. This kind of reminds me of the situation they had when The Rock dropped the belt to Brock Lesnar at SummerSlam 2002, Brock had only been around for about 5 months when he won it although he did mix it up with other big talents like Hogan and RVD before he got to Rock at SummerSlam. If anything Sheamus should have been involved with some other bigger names before they just put him with the biggest star in the company.
Ideally they could have had him step up to the plate against the likes of Kofi Kingston, Jack Swagger, Miz, to set him up to start moving up the ladder, but there was def a gap in the build going from Noble to Cena like you said. Wouldn't make sense if they didn't have some kind of swerve planned. Either they are putting the strap on him or they are working something to get it off Cena and build toward WM. It seems they are feeding us little hints for a possible Taker/Cena match at Mania. In all likelyhood, having him drop the Title to Sheamus is a decent excuse to loo-poll Orton back into the title scene and put the strap on him if they are heading for Cena and Taker at Mania.
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Also, the whole table match idea in this case seems to be a way to either make Sheamus seem capable of winning, or else giving Cena a way to lose without taking too much of a hit.
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I'd be all for the "both through a table at the same time" theory if someone could show me a clip of this ever happening before. Remember, both men have to go through a table due to an offensive move by their opponent.
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I'd be all for the "both through a table at the same time" theory if someone could show me a clip of this ever happening before. Remember, both men have to go through a table due to an offensive move by their opponent.
Hah, I got one way: belly-to-back suplex done in a way where both men would go through the table.
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The Troops shows have never really continued storylines in the past have they?

As for the Rumble match being for the title. They are long overdue to do this, plus it's the only way Orton could conceivably get the title back before Mania.
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Hah, I got one way: belly-to-back suplex done in a way where both men would go through the table.
Not correct. Wrestler A puts Wrestler B through the table and A's momentum puts himself through the table. B does nothing in this instance to put A through the table.
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Does anybody actually think he is goin to win anyways?
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Old 12-04-2009, 03:53 PM   #27
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Just looked to see where Sheamus would rank among youngest World champions (I assumed he was really young, especially cause I hadn't heard much about him except for the past year), and it appears that he is actually 31 years old.
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Geez if he's that old I can't help but wonder if that he has a chance of taking it now look how suddenly they pushed Batista and he was even older than that.
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Old 12-04-2009, 05:24 PM   #29
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Apparently this photo was taken at the tapings. Guess he did have the belt.



Report came from - http://www.impactwrestling.com/Content.aspx?ID=30370 - the website has the taping results as well, so avoid if you don't want spoiling further
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Dammit. Ah well, was too soon for Sheamus anyway.
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I guess it's still possible for Sheamus to win...WWE could easily just say this was taped several weeks earlier...but I don't see him getting the belt at this stage.
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I think I remember them doing just this either last year or '07.
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That would be really sweet!

I haven't actually seen much of Sheamus to make judgement, but I just wanna see someone different with the belt, and the fact it's a total newcomer makes it kinda interesting for me.
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Old 12-06-2009, 12:41 PM   #34
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I'd like to see one of two things happen at TLC:

1) Sheamus puts Cena through a table, but it is outside the ring, which the referee does not count. Cena then puts Sheamus through a table to win the match. Sheamus is pissed about this, and has a valid claim to being screwed, which keeps him credible and would allow him another shot at the title come the Rumble. Either that, or he gets the #30 position in the Rumble, and dominates for a bit when he shows up.

2) Sheamus actually wins the Tables Match, perhaps with some help from random heels that don't like Cena (Carlito being a good example). John Cena then cashes in his rematch that same night, and wins back the WWE Title in a regular match. This allows Sheamus to call himself a "former WWE Champion," but it doesn't put Sheamus right "out there" too soon.
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I'd like to see one of two things happen at TLC:

1) Sheamus puts Cena through a table, but it is outside the ring, which the referee does not count. Cena then puts Sheamus through a table to win the match. Sheamus is pissed about this, and has a valid claim to being screwed, which keeps him credible and would allow him another shot at the title come the Rumble. Either that, or he gets the #30 position in the Rumble, and dominates for a bit when he shows up.

2) Sheamus actually wins the Tables Match, perhaps with some help from random heels that don't like Cena (Carlito being a good example). John Cena then cashes in his rematch that same night, and wins back the WWE Title in a regular match. This allows Sheamus to call himself a "former WWE Champion," but it doesn't put Sheamus right "out there" too soon.

Oooh, I like #2. Reminds me of Jericho's victory over Triple H.
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Old 12-06-2009, 05:55 PM   #37
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no way shaymus has what it takes to beat cena
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Old 12-06-2009, 09:58 PM   #38
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even though when Jericho did it the house went crazy and he was already ready to be "out there"
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