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Von Killer
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Fallout: New Vegas
Could've sworn there was a thread for this before, but search found nothing.
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I thought this was gonna be Fallout 3 DLC. But it's a standalone game.
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the low Art Gloominati
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I can't wait.
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Baird
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The text on the bottom of that flag at the end looks an awful lot like "California Republic" - could be the NCR from Fallout 2. Would be nice if it follows up on some of the stuff from that game.
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I think IGN or The fallout wikia did a full analysis of the trailer somewhere out there. |
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Unnecessarily awesome
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Whens this out then? Fallout 2 was quality
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As over as Crystal Pepsi
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Ron Paul 4 EVA
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Any word on whether or not NV will feature VATS?
The third person option of F3 is pretty pathetic, but VATS kind of saves it for me. |
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Baird
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It will definitely have VATS. It was mentioned in the preview article in PC Gamer that they're adding new stuff for melee weapons to it.
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You're Welcome.
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Hey Mister!
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Not yet, but there is virtually no chance of Fallout NV coming out without VATS.
VATS is to Fallout, as Jumping is to Mario. |
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KK I know you hate first person shooters but F3 is a lot better in 1st person then 3rd.
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Ron Paul 4 EVA
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Thank God you're not retarded, son. Otherwise, you might try and tell me that first person was better after I just panned the system in general. ![]() |
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If they don't use a new engine, I will continue to not care about this piece of shit.
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Baird
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What exactly was wrong with the Fallout 3 engine, pray tell?
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It was the Oblivion engine with a new skin and a couple new features. It is an outdated, clunky piece of crap with terrible animations that doesn't look visually impressive at all, even maxed out, yet runs like CRAP.
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VALENTÍA
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...and yet, gloriously fun and addictive.
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My PC handled Crysis on high (not maxed) smoothly, and it looked incredible.
Fallout 3 on max doesn't come anywhere near the visual impressiveness of Crysis, and graphically lags to shit, even with some settings turned down. The game wasn't fun at all to me. After the newness wore off, the faults were too distracting for me to enjoy myself. Just the feel of the game made me dislike it completely. It felt cheap, and I would rather not encourage laziness in developers. |
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VALENTÍA
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And you don't feel you're missing the point of gaming? It had flaws, yes. A couple of them might even force you to reload a save but you seriously couldn't let them slide and enjoy it?
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Using the same engine twice is one thing. They tried it, and it 'worked', but it could be far better. Using the same engine a third time is just pushing it. It is roughly 4 years old, not including the time it took to develop Oblivion. With as much as technology has advanced, and with what developers have been able to push with consoles, there is no valid reason that you could give me that would justify them using the same engine in a 3rd game. It's not like they don't have the money to develop a new one, or to completely overhaul the current one.
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VALENTÍA
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Strikes me as a bit of a joyless way to look at things, but each to his own. I won't say you're wrong, because you're not. But the engine didn't ruin the game, the way, say the Yukes engine does the Smackdown series.
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I want to enjoy the games I play. I spent money and built a decent PC for gaming. It's not state of the art by any means, but it can handle games on mid-high settings and still look nice. That's not even the main reason for my disliking it though. I can't enjoy a game that feels like crap. Oblivion, I can give a break. For when it came out, it was pretty impressive. The engine worked for that game because it was designed for that game. It had its faults, but I could deal with that because it was still up to par with, or better than other games of its time. It was new. Fallout 3, is not new. I felt like I was playing a game that was made 5 years earlier. It didn't have anything to do with the game's features. It had to do with how the game played. If the game plays badly, why would I enjoy it? You're looking at it from the point of view of 'things to do', and yeah.. there were a lot of things to do. Places to go.. people to talk to. But I absolutely hated the way it played. |
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VALENTÍA
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#26 |
You can't teach that
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SO basically Req is saying its ok to Bang a Good Looking chick once, but if you do it twice you should fuck off.
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It's more like.. you banged that MILF/cougar because she was hot at the time. But 5 years later, her age has caught up to her and she's not looking so attractive anymore.
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You can't teach that
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You can't teach that
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I just dont see the "CRAP" Req. The game was a game of the year, critcally acclaimed and loved by a vast majority of fans. Because you didnt like it doesnt make it crap.
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McDonald's is easily the most popular fast food chain in the US, but that doesn't mean it's the best.
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And come on... you would not think the developers were being lazy if they used the same engine in a THIRD game? That is what started this whole discussion... saying if they use the same engine again, I will not give a shit about their crappy game.
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You can't teach that
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Honestly I dont care what engine they are using if the end product is fun, entertaining and polished.
I would rather they crank out another good game with the same engine than a shitty one with a new engine. |
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Jamiroquai Bodega
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I kind of agree with Req here. I didn't let it ruin the experience for me and I enjoyed it thoroughly, but it did feel pretty cheap. The animations were close to awful and the character models nothing special.
It wasn't soul crushing, but it was definitely frustrating considering the potential of the game. |
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req, you probably should have installed some mod packs, including the hd texture pack and the fallout 3 overhaul kit. Fallout 3 with those packs, at 1920x1080 with full AA and Anso filtering, was absolutely stunning. And fucking awesome, as you get a shitload more guns, game is a lot more realistic. Absolutely loved that game.
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Req is entitled to his opinion. Even though it's WRONG
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IGN:
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RIP SABU
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Sounds incredible so far.
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emerge
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"viva ut vivas"
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Must..... Get.... Game.....
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Von Killer
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First screens are out: http://blastmagazine.com/the-magazin...s-trickle-out/
Yes, it looks exactly like FO3, but what do you expect when they hand it off to another studio AND say it won't be a sequel, but a spin-off? Bethesda obviously want to make the true FO4 themselves |
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