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Old 02-11-2010, 12:30 AM   #1
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This is what is wrong with wrestling!
Absolutley nothing. It's all of you. You people sit in your homes every Monday, Thursday, and Saturday, give or take a couple shows, and instead of enjoying what you once did, all you do is critizes the hell out of every wrestling show on television.

TNA: Oh these guys are SO old, which is very true, but who cares? I will however say, I wish some of the old guys would get themselves into shape if they want to be a part of the "new" TNA. (I'm talking to you Mr. Hall) The fact of the matter is, TNA has been breaking their own ratings record every week, except the last (Correct me if I am wrong) which means, just because you "Smarks" don't like the "old" guys, others do. I read some complaints about using old story lines from another company, WCW or WWE, but again I say who cares? The newer wrestling fans will take enjoyment from the stories, and to stay with the theme of the paragraph, just because some of you guys are OLD enough to remember the storylines from 10 years ago doesn't mean they can't redo some of them.

WWE: I hate hearing this term, the PG rating. All I have to say about that is, before the "Attitude Era," which in my opinion killed pro wrestling, what do you think WWF was? That was when all the greats were among us. Mr. Perfect, Rick Rude, "Million Dollar Man" Ted Dibiase, just to name a few as there was MANY great wrestlers back in that time. They created a product that was wrestling. So if you smarks are complaining about the PG era, all i have to say is go back and revisit the WWF before the Attitude era, you may see some similarities.

Basically what I am trying to say is, if you can't enjoy the product for what it is, don't watch. If you have to sit there and watch every minute of every show and want to pick out every mistake done, than of coarse your gonna find something wrong, and than come on here and post your findings. Enjoy it, or leave it. Plain and simple.
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Old 02-11-2010, 12:38 AM   #2
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Old 02-11-2010, 12:44 AM   #3
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Old 02-11-2010, 10:19 AM   #4
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Old 02-11-2010, 11:12 AM   #5
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Old 02-11-2010, 12:57 AM   #7
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Just because I criticize it doesn't mean I don't enjoy it.
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Old 02-11-2010, 01:06 AM   #8
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It's not so much the ratings or the ages of the guys involved so much as the product. TNA has been infamously known for producing lackluster television with poor booking, poor character development, and an unclear direction. How many times has AJ Styles been heel or face over the last 2 or 3 years? You can't expect people to invest in your product if you have no clear direction in terms of the company. TNA has been WCW-lite well before Hogan and Bischoff got there, and now it seems more prominent.

The PG rating is crap, but it doesn't necessarily take away from the product. At the moment, Raw is getting better by the week with interesting storylines and an actual purpose for each show. Even it's only because Mania's right around the corner, the consensus seems to be that Raw has taken a turn for the better for the last 2 weeks.

SmackDown! continues to be the best and most consistently booked "wrestling" show around. That's what a wrestling program should be. Outside of R-Truth getting what seems to be a prominent push (and even then, people have made efforts to justify such), SmackDown! is getting positive responses here week in and week out.

Not to mention, we all have the right to our opinion, and if a wrestling show sucks, like Raw and TNA has, then there's nothing wrong with pointing that out. Why would we settle? If you don't like to read negative, and often justified complaints, then don't read.
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Old 02-11-2010, 01:32 AM   #9
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Not to mention, we all have the right to our opinion, and if a wrestling show sucks, like Raw and TNA has, then there's nothing wrong with pointing that out. Why would we settle? If you don't like to read negative, and often justified complaints, then don't read.
You think you writing on these boards is going to make the product better? To answer your question "Why would we settle?" Well that one is easy, you have no other choice.
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Old 02-11-2010, 01:52 AM   #10
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You think you writing on these boards is going to make the product better? To answer your question "Why would we settle?" Well that one is easy, you have no other choice.
First off, not everyone here watches anymore, and quite a few watch SmackDown! exclusively becuase Raw has so unbearable.

There's always a choice, and you saying there isn't is ignorant. This is why TNA us getting higher ratings. People are willing to change the channel and watch something else. ROH, along with other indy feds, are garnering more and more attention.

No one is settling. Except you, because you only want to focus on what is good, which is fine and dandy. In your opinion, we should enjoy what we have and be content, right? Well, that's your opinion. I don't agree with it, but I respect it.

And no, venting on the boards does not increase the product's quality. But it does make for intelligent and often enjoyable discussions/arguments. In fact, I've found myself enjoying wrestling in general more now than a few months ago because I can come here and analyze, discuss, and express what I feel when i watch WWE or TNA or ROH or whatever.
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Old 02-11-2010, 02:06 AM   #11
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You think you writing on these boards is going to make the product better? To answer your question "Why would we settle?" Well that one is easy, you have no other choice.
Oh you're gonna do well here.

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Old 02-11-2010, 02:06 AM   #12
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Old 02-11-2010, 02:51 AM   #13
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I enjoy how close minded the enjoy it or turn it off argument is
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Old 02-11-2010, 03:09 AM   #14
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I enjoy how close minded the enjoy it or turn it off argument is
As do I. Ignorance is bliss my friend.
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Old 02-11-2010, 12:20 PM   #15
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Old 02-11-2010, 06:27 AM   #16
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I only watch WWE PPV's now, and occasionally TNA ones.

Besides that I don't watch Raw, Smackdown, ECW or Impact, but I do read the results and then look up anything that interests me on Youtube.

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Old 02-11-2010, 06:36 AM   #17
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Old 02-11-2010, 06:40 AM   #18
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Old 02-11-2010, 08:17 AM   #19
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WWE: I hate hearing this term, the PG rating. All I have to say about that is, before the "Attitude Era," which in my opinion killed pro wrestling, what do you think WWF was?
I agreed with a lot of things in your post but this 1 kinda stuck out. I don't think the attitude era killed pro wrestling in fact I think it saved it. The product before it was good but it was losing it's fanbase b/c it was getting stale. The attitude era produced the highest rated shows ever in pro wrestling
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Old 02-11-2010, 09:01 AM   #20
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The Attitude Era presented change. So does this era, but regressing to 80s-style booking in today's fast-past world is a huge mistake no matter how you look at it.
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The Attitude Era presented change. So does this era, but regressing to 80s-style booking in today's fast-past world is a huge mistake no matter how you look at it.
What? lol, come on.
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What? lol, come on.
What? This is Vince McMahon's 80s style booking, it's all over the fucking place.
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What? This is Vince McMahon's 80s style booking, it's all over the fucking place.
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Old 02-11-2010, 09:06 AM   #24
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Tyler you're such a twit.

I love the Toronto Maple Leafs with a passion, so does it make me a bad fan when I say they are fucking horrendous?
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Old 02-11-2010, 10:18 AM   #26
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Well the attitude era worked for a while, but that reputation has followed the wrestling business even to this day, so many people I talk to can't take the business seriously anymore. I'm actully right on board with Tyler (I agree with Tyler). I would go as far as to say that what we do here has never done any good for the business. I personally have limited my complaining because I understand that no matter what you do, you can't please everyone.

I actually quit watching in 2003. I started back up again with TNA a few years ago. Whether people think it was a good show or not, I was frequently bored with WWE's product, so I just stuck with one. That doesn't mean I thought every TNA show was awesome. I just found it more interesting personally.
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My friend Black Sean says it constantly. I borrowed it to show my disdain for this Tyler Killer guy.
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It is boring a lack luster. Which is why I don't watch anymore.
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Old 02-11-2010, 11:44 AM   #31
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That's hilarious, Jayman, yet true.
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Old 02-11-2010, 12:30 PM   #33
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Old 02-11-2010, 01:33 PM   #34
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Old 02-11-2010, 04:00 PM   #35
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Wow. What an idiot.

Anyway, you want to bring up pro wrestling before the attitude era? Whoever posted that regression to former style is not good has hit the nail right on the head. You knw what else really worked back in the 80's....synthesizers and flock of seagulls hair. Neither of those things would work today...times change and product has to evolve to meet demand. You can't possibly think that this PG crap was brought on because it was better for wrestling fans! It is force fed to us because Vinny Mac wants sponsorship money from kiddy companies. I don't agree with Cena much and I know it wasn't real, but Vince really is all about the dollar.

Furthermore, you getting on an internet wrestling discussion board and flaming on everybody for complaining is stupid. You are the type of moron who goes into an internet chat room for gay guys and starts yelling slurs at them...what is the point? You want us to shut up or stop watching? I tell you to stfu or stop reading...
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Old 02-11-2010, 05:03 PM   #36
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LOL.

That is all.
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Old 02-11-2010, 05:08 PM   #37
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Actually that's not all because you almost made my head explode with that opinion piece. Wrestling was entering an age where appreciation for it had decreased dramatically in this country and the fans from the generation that had been brought up on it throughout the seventies and eighties had been reduced to essentially the die-harders. The Attitude Era pretty much re-energized the product and got a whole new generation of fans hooked on wrestling. Christ.
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Old 02-11-2010, 05:15 PM   #38
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Would just like to point out this 'Tyler' person isn't worth being bothered about, only has 15 posts and generalizes alot of shite, if that winds you up you must have some problems.
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Old 02-12-2010, 08:50 PM   #39
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Tyler has made me seen the err of my ways. No longer will I scrutinize or complain about anything.
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Old 02-12-2010, 10:25 PM   #40
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Maaaaaaan. *guitar riffs*

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*stands at the top of the ramp*

*squats*

*pyro goes off behind me*

*knows its all because of Triple H*
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