What makes Alberto Del Rio a face?

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wrestling forum>What makes Alberto Del Rio a face?

Rollermacka 08:27 PM 05-27-2013

Hmm, somebody asked me a good question earlier today..... what makes Alberto Del Rio a face? So as a heel, he was a super rich Mexican Aristocrat with a man servant. Now that he's a face, he's a super rich Mexican Aristocrat with a man servant but since he doesn't drive his car to the ring he's a face?

Lock Jaw 08:31 PM 05-27-2013

Ricardo is his "friend" now, and he is now a "man of the people" who had fought hard to earn everything.

OverTaker 02:15 AM 05-28-2013

Weed The People

Edit: Jack Swagger

NoJabbaNoBogRoll 02:19 AM 05-28-2013

The same things that make The Miz a face.

Having no likeable qualites, and shameless barely-effective pandering.

#1-norm-fan 02:50 AM 05-28-2013

It's simple. He thwarts other douchebag heels as opposed to being the douchebag who fucks over faces.

And the fact that he actually wins matches over the douchebag heels while being entertaining makes him a good face.

Bad News Gertner 03:48 AM 05-28-2013

What made Eddie Guerrero a face? He'd cheat during matches, steal, lie. Faces do a lot of heelish things.Rey Mysterio was the king of that.

Fignuts 03:53 AM 05-28-2013

Del Rio is as blanda face as I've ever seen. Some people were born to be heel.

Fignuts 03:55 AM 05-28-2013

I take that back. Alex Riley was the worst. Seriously, how did that boring piece of uselessness ever get such a big following on here?

Calling him vanilla would be an insult to vanilla.

#1-norm-fan 03:58 AM 05-28-2013

I love ADR as a face. I'm a sucker for an old school, smiley, tell the fans how much you love them babyface.

#1-norm-fan 03:59 AM 05-28-2013

I'm glad you're on my side about Alex Riley though. Fuck Alex Riley. Useless.

Fignuts 04:03 AM 05-28-2013

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan:
I love ADR as a face. I'm a sucker for an old school, smiley, tell the fans how much you love them babyface.

He was such a bastard before that, though. And it was not a very gradual change. Obviously you suspend your disbelief a great deal watching wrestling, but there are limits. Del Rio's turn crossed it for me.

Skippord 04:07 AM 05-28-2013

Del Rio's pretty bland either way, which is weird because those Latinos are usually so spicy

#deadinside

#1-norm-fan 04:10 AM 05-28-2013

Every face turn requires you to believe that the guy just kinda stopped being a bastard and changed his ways though. I don't think ADR's was any more of a stretch than anyone else's.

If I could think of any good recent face turns, I'd give examples...

Bad News Gertner 04:14 AM 05-28-2013

You know what's odd. Riley still gets a decent pop on Superstars when he wrestles once every 3 months.

Fignuts 04:15 AM 05-28-2013

Well yeah, it's certainly not the first face turn that's happened suddenly, but I still feel that the gradual changes are far superior. Batista's for example.

Sudden changes are great for heels, but I feel a face turn is so much better when you can see it building, and you're waiting for that one moment when the guy truly becomes a hero.

Bad News Gertner 04:15 AM 05-28-2013

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan:
Every face turn requires you to believe that the guy just kinda stopped being a bastard and changed his ways though. I don't think ADR's was any more of a stretch than anyone else's.

If I could think of any good recent face turns, I'd give examples...

Daniel Bryan and Kane

Fignuts 04:17 AM 05-28-2013

Originally Posted by Gertner:
You know what's odd. Riley still gets a decent pop on Superstars when he wrestles once every 3 months.

Probably just for the entrance theme. I will admit his theme is kinda rad. The intro to it, anyway. The rest is just a generic shitty rock song like so many others nowadays.

Remember when having actual song lyrics in an entrance theme meant soomething? Remember when most entrance themes weren't forgettable garbage?

Bad News Gertner 04:22 AM 05-28-2013

Yeah, I do love Alex Riley's theme. Whatever it is, he still gets a decent pop.

#1-norm-fan 04:24 AM 05-28-2013

Originally Posted by Gertner:
Daniel Bryan and Kane

Those were so subtle I forgot they turned face.

But yes... both of them were pretty huge assholes as heels and are now pretty over as faces.

Bad News Gertner 04:24 AM 05-28-2013

He definitely had the crowd behind him.

#1-norm-fan 04:45 AM 05-28-2013

He was put in a good position with The Miz.

Unfortunately he's very awkward at everything he does.

The CHT 09:22 AM 05-28-2013

Alex Riley gargles donkey balls. This thread is the most attention he's gotten from fans in probably a year and it's still more than he deserves. He has a cool theme, which is sad because no one hears it since when he does wrassle, it's on the C & D shows.

The CHT 09:28 AM 05-28-2013

Swagger and Coulter did more for Del Rio as a face than anything ADR does on the microphone or in the ring. Del Rio in general is a snoozefest for me. After his debut, the snobby rich Mexican who armbars people got old.

Plus, name a Mexican who comes to the United States with money? Totally unbelievable.

Vastardikai 10:09 AM 05-28-2013

WWE has a lucrative Hispanic market. So it's natural for them to want to have a Hispanic babyface the crowd can relate to. The problem is:

1. Eddie is dead.
2. Rey Misterio is always injured
3. Sin Cara Sucks
4. Nobody would buy Hunico or Camacho.

So ADR is the guy by default.

Keith 02:59 PM 05-28-2013

ADR is a face because Rey Mysterio is injured all the time and Sin Cara has flopped big time, so they need a face latino in order to appeal to the spanish market.

ADR is now a guy who fights and claws his way through, which is not bad.

Hell, I think that only Daniel Bryan and CM Punk are better in-ring performers than Del Rio. The guy is very solid.

voncouch 04:49 PM 05-28-2013

People chant Si, so that must mean he's over

Wishbone 06:39 PM 05-28-2013

Del Rio is an amazing face IMO. His turn was pretty stupid yet he somehow has made it work and has the crowd pretty into him everywhere they go. If that's not succeeding at being a face I don't know what is.

Curd 06:47 PM 05-28-2013

Identifying with Del Rio is wish fulfillment because the fans feel like they're sharing in Del Rio's wealth for the time he's in front of them. And yet, the fans tend to dislike wealthier people because the rich call the shots in terms of jobs offered, political deals brokered, etc. It is similar to how fans identified with Stone Cold but wouldn't actually enjoy being cussed out and stunnered in real life.

Ruien 07:53 PM 05-28-2013

Pretty sure he is qualified as a face because the crowd cheers for him. He says nice things and makes people feel cozy inside their little hearts.

Emperor Smeat 08:34 PM 05-28-2013

Was a really random face turn to begin with considering it happened out of no where and just suddenly dropped everything associated with his heel character (most was never explained why).

#1-norm-fan 08:41 PM 05-28-2013

Legit face turns are a thing of the past. Del Rio, The Miz, Kane, Daniel Bryan.

We don't get awesome "moments" to get a crowd on someone's side anymore. It sucks.

Lock Jaw 08:51 PM 05-28-2013

Last "legit" face turn in the sense #1-wwf-fan is thinking was probably.... Alex Riley!

Which turned out great!

#1-norm-fan 08:54 PM 05-28-2013

It was a pretty great moment.

Until the moment wore off and we were just left with Alex Riley on our TVs a lot. Never a good thing.

#1-norm-fan 08:58 PM 05-28-2013

I actually liked Christian's face turn when he chose to face Cody instead of Santino.

#1-norm-fan 09:01 PM 05-28-2013

Actually, Sheamus' face turn when he stood up to Mark Henry during his path of destruction was cool too.

Not a huge, eventful turn like Riley's. It was a moment though.