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wrestling forum>Sami Zayn and Kevin Owens Suspended From UK Tour *Updated*
#BROKEN Hasney 01:35 AM 11-09-2017
Weird, Kevin Owens doesn't look like he has an issue with feeding.
#BROKEN Hasney 01:35 AM 11-09-2017
I wouldn't take Meltzer as gospel over PWinsider though. The both just have their sources.
If they're unhappy, I hope they leave.
If they're unhappy, I hope they leave.
hb2k 04:17 AM 11-09-2017
I'd suspect that they're unhappy that they've taken a backseat since the big heel turn, when they were the hottest act on the show, to put everybody else over to get them ready for Survivor Series. Losing to Orton, Nakamura, then putting over the New Day when they had so much direct interaction with Shane and they were the best act on the show is justified discontent.
Mr. Nerfect 04:29 AM 11-09-2017
I don't blame them for not being satisfied with the direction of the product. Hell, I'm not satisfied with it. I don't agree with them taking the booking into their own hands though. But it sounds like that is being disputed now. I'm curious to see what shakes out of the tree. Can't say I'm surprised though. Even though I wouldn't have expected it from Owens and Zayn, I think the differences between the main roster and NXT, and the difference between the expectations and the reality are going to fry some people.
Ol Dirty Dastard 07:42 AM 11-09-2017
Meh going into business for yourself is questionable but Shawn Michaes used to do it nightly and he became the #1 guy.
Mr. Nerfect 07:51 AM 11-09-2017
Yeah, true. I get the point. One of the biggest problems with the industry right now is that there aren't any stars, and no one is going to get over doing exactly what the WWE tells them. Something about this specific scenario just doesn't sit well with me though. I mean, even if the idea is a good one, then you've still got the end result that you're now likely to be de-emphasized completely, so you've essentially knocked yourself back three steps instead of taking one forward.
Ol Dirty Dastard 08:07 AM 11-09-2017
The goal may be to either make a point or to be let go. They know theyll.make good coin on the indies
Mr. Nerfect 08:14 AM 11-09-2017
They probably should have just asked for their releases, because now they might not get out with a bit of humiliation. Maybe it'll babyface them for the geekier crowds? I dunno. I just feel it's very...juvenile.
Ol Dirty Dastard 08:17 AM 11-09-2017
We will probably never get the real story.
Evil Vito 08:28 AM 11-09-2017
Wonder if Gedo can find room in G1 Climax 28 for Kevin Steen and El Generico.
Mr. Nerfect 08:42 AM 11-09-2017
Originally Posted by Dastardly Dale Newstead:
We will probably never get the real story.
Maybe it's a little bit from Column A and a little bit from Column Becky Gang Bang?We will probably never get the real story.
erickman 11:54 AM 11-09-2017
Originally Posted by #BrotherVito DELETED:
Wonder if Gedo can find room in G1 Climax 28 for Kevin Steen and El Generico.
they can be seat fillers at impact get 50 bucks a dayWonder if Gedo can find room in G1 Climax 28 for Kevin Steen and El Generico.
Danny Electric 01:02 PM 11-09-2017
So what's this all aboot? 
Danny Electric 01:04 PM 11-09-2017
Maybe they will just storyline it all and said that they attacked Daniel Bryan backstage, unless that's already been discovered , not exactly up to date . Apart from the pin drop you could hear through most of 205 Live.
#BROKEN Hasney 01:11 PM 11-09-2017
I still think it's a work tbh. KO has Vince's ear and I could totally see them jeeping it between the three of them.
Theo Dious 01:54 PM 11-09-2017
These kind of little dick lickers need to be sat down for a good long talk with the Miz. You're not guaranteed a top spot once you get it, and throwing tantrums and crying about it isn't the way to maintain your spot in the modern WWE climate, and if you're name isn't John Cena, you're replaceable. The Miz could have thrown hissy fits and complained about how he was used, instead he chose to make an indispensable part of WWE. When he was relegated to the Wrestlemania pre-show and a nearly empty arena he used it to get himself even more over.
Did Daniel Bryan detonate a snot bomb when he was pushed out of the main event picture into some of the lamest comedy WWE has ever produced? Nope, he chose to be awesome and WWE couldn't ignore the fan reaction. The only crybaby tantrum that ever got results was Punk, and that didnt last because he couldnt stop being who he is.
Bottom line, if they're unhappy with their spot and unwilling to work to improve it, in the words of Jim Cornette - "Thank you, fuck you, bye."
Did Daniel Bryan detonate a snot bomb when he was pushed out of the main event picture into some of the lamest comedy WWE has ever produced? Nope, he chose to be awesome and WWE couldn't ignore the fan reaction. The only crybaby tantrum that ever got results was Punk, and that didnt last because he couldnt stop being who he is.
Bottom line, if they're unhappy with their spot and unwilling to work to improve it, in the words of Jim Cornette - "Thank you, fuck you, bye."
Theo Dious 01:54 PM 11-09-2017
Originally Posted by #BROKEN Hasney:
I still think it's a work tbh. KO has Vince's ear and I could totally see them jeeping it between the three of them.
This would be awesome though.I still think it's a work tbh. KO has Vince's ear and I could totally see them jeeping it between the three of them.
Evil Vito 02:09 PM 11-09-2017
Originally Posted by Theo Dious:
Did Daniel Bryan detonate a snot bomb when he was pushed out of the main event picture into some of the lamest comedy WWE has ever produced?
You best not have just disrespected Team Hell No.Did Daniel Bryan detonate a snot bomb when he was pushed out of the main event picture into some of the lamest comedy WWE has ever produced?
Loose Cannon 02:09 PM 11-09-2017
dick move but pretty hillarious. about time some of the boys said fuck it this writing sucks
Theo Dious 02:25 PM 11-09-2017
Originally Posted by #BrotherVito DELETED:
You best not have just disrespected Team Hell No.
The team was awesome. The Dr Shelby bits in theory should have crashed and burned.You best not have just disrespected Team Hell No.
Evil Vito 02:37 PM 11-09-2017
Originally Posted by Theo Dious:
The team was awesome. The Dr Shelby bits in theory should have crashed and burned.
Ahh, I'd agree with that then. If the performers weren't into it could've been sooooo much worse.The team was awesome. The Dr Shelby bits in theory should have crashed and burned.
Amazing what magic can happen when you have 3 people genuinely committed to the scene. Shout out to Harold, too.
Rebecca Reigns 02:42 PM 11-09-2017
They would have never tried this on RAW because Roman Reigns is the locker room leader (he beat The Undertaker at WrestleMania for those who don't know) and he would have given them a Superman Punch and Spear the second they got backstage.
RP 02:47 PM 11-09-2017
Originally Posted by :
Originally Posted by pwinsider
PWInsider.com has noted that Kevin Owens could be released as soon as Sunday. Reports are that WWE will not give up on the Kevin Owens character though. Bray Wyatt is currently being groomed and clean shaved and pending medical clearance, will re-debut as the new Kevin Owens.
Originally Posted by pwinsider
PWInsider.com has noted that Kevin Owens could be released as soon as Sunday. Reports are that WWE will not give up on the Kevin Owens character though. Bray Wyatt is currently being groomed and clean shaved and pending medical clearance, will re-debut as the new Kevin Owens.
Big Vic 03:16 PM 11-09-2017
Awesome, better for all 3 parties involved.
Cool King 03:20 PM 11-09-2017
Originally Posted by #BROKEN Hasney:
I hope they leave.
I hope they leave.
Anybody Thrilla 03:42 PM 11-09-2017
So I'm watching it back right now, and New Day were trying to kick them out of the ring. This is definitely a work.
Anybody Thrilla 04:17 PM 11-09-2017
Also, I thought the opening promo was great work from everyone involved, and the Zayn/Kofi match was tight. Honestly, Smackdown was great all around this week.
Mr. Nerfect 04:26 PM 11-09-2017
Could be a work, and I've always said they should try to work the internet to some degree, but this isn't the right way. I mean, to what ends? Owens & Zayn do something big at Survivor Series and we all go "Oh, it was all a work. Ha-ha. They got me," and then...nothing? The next time a report comes out everybody still says "This might be a work, but..." and then someone else says "Remember Zayn & Owens?"
It's actually very short-sighted and kind of unambitious if it is a work.
It's actually very short-sighted and kind of unambitious if it is a work.
Anybody Thrilla 04:40 PM 11-09-2017
Are we really going to act like what they're doing right now isn't an anti-establishment thing where they're sick of being walked on? Being "sent home for behavior" would fit exactly into what they're doing. It fits the characters.
And honestly, nothing came across awkward to me on TV. Of course this is a fucking work. This is the only way to do it these days since everybody thinks they know so fucking much.
And honestly, nothing came across awkward to me on TV. Of course this is a fucking work. This is the only way to do it these days since everybody thinks they know so fucking much.
Anybody Thrilla 04:40 PM 11-09-2017
Blurred lines make dimes.
Making some t-shirts right now.
Making some t-shirts right now.
Anybody Thrilla 04:41 PM 11-09-2017
And if it IS a work, it's two days old. Jumping to conclusions is what I would call short-sighted.
Anybody Thrilla 04:42 PM 11-09-2017
Remember The Miz and R-Truth?
Evil Vito 04:43 PM 11-09-2017
lol the entire roster walking out because Miz and R-Truth were attacking people was so ridiculous
RP 05:04 PM 11-09-2017
Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla:
Blurred lines make dimes.
Making some t-shirts right now.
Blurred lines make dimes.
Making some t-shirts right now.
makes chicks get bent out of shape when dudes pull there dicks out and masturbate in front of them.
#BROKEN Hasney 05:12 PM 11-09-2017
Originally Posted by RP:
makes chicks get bent out of shape when dudes pull there dicks out and masturbate in front of them.
Maybe keep work shopping that onemakes chicks get bent out of shape when dudes pull there dicks out and masturbate in front of them.
Anybody Thrilla 05:13 PM 11-09-2017
Perhaps, but that dude is making money. Wrestling is a slippery slope.
RP 05:20 PM 11-09-2017
Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla:
Perhaps, but that dude is making money. Wrestling is a slippery slope.
That's what Louis CK saidPerhaps, but that dude is making money. Wrestling is a slippery slope.
( you set that up on purpose )
Anybody Thrilla 05:21 PM 11-09-2017
Throwing you some low-hanging fruit. You need it.
Mr. Nerfect 05:37 PM 11-09-2017
Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla:
And if it IS a work, it's two days old. Jumping to conclusions is what I would call short-sighted.
Nah, blowing it on these channels is short-sighted. Because regardless of how good it ends up being, that will require on-air content that will blow the idea of this not being a work. It's self-defeating in its very nature. And if it IS a work, it's two days old. Jumping to conclusions is what I would call short-sighted.
As soon as Owens & Zayn return with a push the tension his has built is out the window. There would be ways to use the internet for heat or to put fan support behind someone, but saying "they're in trouble" when they're obviously not defeats the point of saying "they're in trouble" in the first place, because they are obviously not. It's Russo stuff, and it would suck.
Anybody Thrilla 05:46 PM 11-09-2017
I'm not saying I think it would be good. I'm just saying I think it's a work, and we shouldn't jump to conclusions just yet.
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