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Mr. Nerfect 08:01 PM 05-09-2018
I haven't really been following the juniors, so this tournament is hard for me to compartmentalize. Ishimori seems like a good choice to win it, but KUSHIDA, Takahashi, Scurll or even a win by Dragon Lee or El Desperado don't seem like out of this world possibilities to me. They don't really seem to be invested in "a guy" in the division as much as they are others.
Fignuts 08:31 PM 05-09-2018
NJPW definitely needs to invest in better tables. That Cody vs Ibushi spot. Christ almighty.
Ultra Mantis 10:52 PM 05-09-2018
Originally Posted by Noid:
Sabin greatly diminished the belt from memory. Yeah, TNA has been a joke for a long, long time, but it was an attempt to follow-up what they had done with Austin Aries. Prior to Aries, Roode was champion; prior to Roode, Storm; prior to Storm, Angle. There was some interest being drummed up and the guys holding it did feel like they were at the top of the company. I'm down for the KUSHIDA/Hiromu matches though.
He won it cold by using a gimmick cash in, hitting Bubba Ray Dudley with a hammer then held it for a month, had no successful defences. Storm was champ for what, a day? Equally no build, was more over but not main event over, and he wasn't exactly more credible or a better champion. They only gave him the belt for the shock value and an excuse to turn Roode before they strapped him up after six months of build. They shouldn't have put the belt on Sabin sure, but it didn't damage that belt's rep in any meaningful way considering all the shit they'd already put it through. RVD and Jeff Hardy probably did the most damage to it.Sabin greatly diminished the belt from memory. Yeah, TNA has been a joke for a long, long time, but it was an attempt to follow-up what they had done with Austin Aries. Prior to Aries, Roode was champion; prior to Roode, Storm; prior to Storm, Angle. There was some interest being drummed up and the guys holding it did feel like they were at the top of the company. I'm down for the KUSHIDA/Hiromu matches though.
slik 01:40 PM 05-10-2018
Owwwww
Please guys....don’t do this in your next match pic.twitter.com/cAbRhXyPdu
— Occasional Idea Havin Paul (@y2stump) May 10, 2018
Mr. Nerfect 07:51 PM 05-11-2018
Originally Posted by Ultra Mantis:
He won it cold by using a gimmick cash in, hitting Bubba Ray Dudley with a hammer then held it for a month, had no successful defences. Storm was champ for what, a day? Equally no build, was more over but not main event over, and he wasn't exactly more credible or a better champion. They only gave him the belt for the shock value and an excuse to turn Roode before they strapped him up after six months of build. They shouldn't have put the belt on Sabin sure, but it didn't damage that belt's rep in any meaningful way considering all the shit they'd already put it through. RVD and Jeff Hardy probably did the most damage to it.
That it was cheap is no defense for it being cheap. "It sucked because it sucked" still means it sucked. Storm was champ for a day, but he definitely felt more like a player than Sabin did. Everyone was on Storm's dick as a rising star for a long time. He won it cold by using a gimmick cash in, hitting Bubba Ray Dudley with a hammer then held it for a month, had no successful defences. Storm was champ for what, a day? Equally no build, was more over but not main event over, and he wasn't exactly more credible or a better champion. They only gave him the belt for the shock value and an excuse to turn Roode before they strapped him up after six months of build. They shouldn't have put the belt on Sabin sure, but it didn't damage that belt's rep in any meaningful way considering all the shit they'd already put it through. RVD and Jeff Hardy probably did the most damage to it.
The RVD and Jeff Hardy sagas were pretty awful, but I don't think they themselves hurt the belt as much as Sabin did by winning it as a mid-carder. Ken Anderson, on the other hand...
Mr. Nerfect 07:51 PM 05-11-2018
Eh, it's TNA, it doesn't matter.
Ultra Mantis 06:48 AM 05-12-2018
Exactly.
slik 06:57 AM 05-12-2018
I missed this week's ep on AXS...supposed to show matches from 'Genesis'....will definitely have to watch it, looking forward to Okada vs Sabre Jr.
slik 02:33 AM 05-13-2018
Catching up on NJPW on AXS tv now
slik 02:33 AM 05-13-2018
Marty Scurll has good entrance music
slik 02:35 AM 05-13-2018
What exactly is Marty Scurll's gimmick -- is he a steampunk raven?
Whatever it is, I like it.
Whatever it is, I like it.
slik 02:35 AM 05-13-2018
Does Will Ospreay always 'punch the ground' like CM Punk?
Fignuts 02:49 AM 05-13-2018
Love Will Osprey's work, but he seems like such a fucking nerd.
slik 02:58 AM 05-13-2018
Is Will Ospreay really good at selling or does he almost 'kill himself' like every 4 minutes?
slik 02:59 AM 05-13-2018
Originally Posted by Slik:
What exactly is Marty Scurll's gimmick -- is he a steampunk raven?
Whatever it is, I like it.
What exactly is Marty Scurll's gimmick -- is he a steampunk raven?
Whatever it is, I like it.
Just read it's based on UK 'Plague Doctors' from the 1600's.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plague_doctor_costume
slik 03:04 AM 05-13-2018
Ospreay might have the best superkicks of anybody out there today.
slik 03:09 AM 05-13-2018
Ospreay busted open really bad from hitting his head on the apron when he and Scurll went over the top rope to the floor.
slik 03:15 AM 05-13-2018
OMG the replay makes it worse...(this is from Sakura Genesis, the U.S. 1 hr show is finally at that point)
He is really, really lucky he didn't have a severe neck injury from that (Ospreay)
He is really, really lucky he didn't have a severe neck injury from that (Ospreay)
slik 03:32 AM 05-13-2018
That was a really great match, lasted the whole hour almost of the show but flew by. A little bit of 'too many finishers' towards the end but really great overall.
slik 03:51 AM 05-13-2018
Ultra Mantis 04:31 PM 05-13-2018
Originally Posted by Slik:
Is Will Ospreay really good at selling or does he almost 'kill himself' like every 4 minutes?
YesIs Will Ospreay really good at selling or does he almost 'kill himself' like every 4 minutes?
Fignuts 05:13 AM 05-16-2018
New Kushida shirt. Need to figure out how to order off njpw shop
Evil Vito 09:12 AM 05-16-2018
That shirt is fantastic.
Innovator 11:02 AM 05-16-2018
slik 11:33 AM 05-16-2018
lol
Mr. Nerfect 02:12 PM 05-17-2018
The new New Japan President seems like a driven guy. Harold Meij has some very clear goals about where they are heading. He wants to get $90 million per year for New Japan, and he wants to eventually trouble Vince. He's identifying language and culture barriers an obstacle New Japan has to face, but said something like "I am not limited by language or culture -- I'll do business wherever I want." He used to be the President of Coca-Cola Japan, or something, and is one of their first foreign CEOs.
Mr. Nerfect 02:16 PM 05-17-2018
He apparently tripled Takara Tomy's stock price.
LibSuperstar 02:50 PM 05-17-2018
Originally Posted by Noid:
He apparently tripled Takara Tomy's stock price.
Amazing! He's on the move already.He apparently tripled Takara Tomy's stock price.
Mr. Nerfect 03:14 PM 05-17-2018
In the past, I should specify. I'm not sure when, haha.
Fignuts 03:21 PM 05-17-2018
Yeah, can't see them ever troubling Vince, but between Meiji's business acumen, and Gedos booking, I could see njpw's us fanbase growing quite a bit.
LibSuperstar 03:24 PM 05-17-2018
Originally Posted by Fignuts:
Yeah, can't see them ever troubling Vince, but between Meiji's business acumen, and Gedos booking, I could see njpw's us fanbase growing quite a bit.
It will grow no doubt. Thing is having that financial backing and spot to challenge WWE.Yeah, can't see them ever troubling Vince, but between Meiji's business acumen, and Gedos booking, I could see njpw's us fanbase growing quite a bit.
Innovator 04:21 PM 05-17-2018
Minoru Suzuki as a child
Loose Cannon 04:26 PM 05-17-2018
Originally Posted by Slik:
i feel really motivated all of a sudden
Mr. Nerfect 03:47 AM 05-18-2018
Originally Posted by Fignuts:
Yeah, can't see them ever troubling Vince, but between Meiji's business acumen, and Gedos booking, I could see njpw's us fanbase growing quite a bit.
"Troubling Vince" is a stretch, but if he manages to apply some of that acumen to get New Japan into the visible sphere somehow, then I can see them growing far more than a lot of people might expect, to the point where they are "known," whatever that means today. Yeah, can't see them ever troubling Vince, but between Meiji's business acumen, and Gedos booking, I could see njpw's us fanbase growing quite a bit.
I can see international television deals, tours, video games, cartoons, toys and merchandise.
Innovator 09:37 AM 05-18-2018
LibSuperstar 12:40 PM 05-18-2018
Originally Posted by Noid:
"Troubling Vince" is a stretch, but if he manages to apply some of that acumen to get New Japan into the visible sphere somehow, then I can see them growing far more than a lot of people might expect, to the point where they are "known," whatever that means today.
I can see international television deals, tours, video games, cartoons, toys and merchandise.
I'm guessing you mean in a mainstream sense but I can definitely see those merchandise and resources becoming available."Troubling Vince" is a stretch, but if he manages to apply some of that acumen to get New Japan into the visible sphere somehow, then I can see them growing far more than a lot of people might expect, to the point where they are "known," whatever that means today.
I can see international television deals, tours, video games, cartoons, toys and merchandise.
Evil Vito 12:51 PM 05-18-2018
God dammit, Suzuki is terrifying inside the ring but so warm and fluffy outside of it
Mike the Metal Ed 08:27 PM 05-18-2018
Originally Posted by #BrotherVito DELETED:
God dammit, Suzuki is terrifying inside the ring but so warm and fluffy outside of it
People say his Instagram ruins in his mystique but I love watching him do old Japanese man things, as well as picking up his manga for the week.God dammit, Suzuki is terrifying inside the ring but so warm and fluffy outside of it
Mr. Nerfect 09:51 PM 05-18-2018
Originally Posted by LibSuperstar:
I'm guessing you mean in a mainstream sense but I can definitely see those merchandise and resources becoming available.
I guess toy shops are closing down now, haha, but I was thinking a line of New Japan toys next to the WWE ones in Toys 'R' Us or something. That's probably an antiquated idea. Or a New Japan anime that gets dubbed and put on US television so that kids growing up here are familiar with them. Try and turn Hiroshi Tanahashi into Goku and then when kids work out he's a real person, maybe they'll be more into him than Roman Reigns? I'm guessing you mean in a mainstream sense but I can definitely see those merchandise and resources becoming available.
I'm speaking very broadly and without precision here -- I mean, Tanahashi is coming out of his prime and Reigns is heading into his -- but that sort of thing. I still think that a New Japan video game with a free trial to New Japan World would be a great thing for them to implement. There's the Fire Pro Wrestling World game coming out, but yeah, something to just burst them into the imaginations of people in the United States.
LibSuperstar 09:54 PM 05-18-2018
Originally Posted by Noid:
I guess toy shops are closing down now, haha, but I was thinking a line of New Japan toys next to the WWE ones in Toys 'R' Us or something. That's probably an antiquated idea. Or a New Japan anime that gets dubbed and put on US television so that kids growing up here are familiar with them. Try and turn Hiroshi Tanahashi into Goku and then when kids work out he's a real person, maybe they'll be more into him than Roman Reigns?
I'm speaking very broadly and without precision here -- I mean, Tanahashi is coming out of his prime and Reigns is heading into his -- but that sort of thing. I still think that a New Japan video game with a free trial to New Japan World would be a great thing for them to implement. There's the Fire Pro Wrestling World game coming out, but yeah, something to just burst them into the imaginations of people in the United States.
That can definitely works. Gives people an alternative to the WWE 2K games.I guess toy shops are closing down now, haha, but I was thinking a line of New Japan toys next to the WWE ones in Toys 'R' Us or something. That's probably an antiquated idea. Or a New Japan anime that gets dubbed and put on US television so that kids growing up here are familiar with them. Try and turn Hiroshi Tanahashi into Goku and then when kids work out he's a real person, maybe they'll be more into him than Roman Reigns?
I'm speaking very broadly and without precision here -- I mean, Tanahashi is coming out of his prime and Reigns is heading into his -- but that sort of thing. I still think that a New Japan video game with a free trial to New Japan World would be a great thing for them to implement. There's the Fire Pro Wrestling World game coming out, but yeah, something to just burst them into the imaginations of people in the United States.