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Old 11-24-2005, 10:41 PM   #401
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LOL Rocker. That guy was the devil to NY
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Old 11-24-2005, 10:48 PM   #402
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Backing the NRA does not make you a hick.
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Old 11-25-2005, 12:40 AM   #403
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The Red Sox/Marlins deal is official now, Guillermo Mota has been added to the group headed to Boston
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Old 11-25-2005, 04:59 AM   #404
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Maybe it will be completely fine, I am just basing it off the fact that I know he supports the NRA which means he is a hick.
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Backing the NRA does not make you a hick.
Thank you... (Not that this is the "discussion forum" and no, I don't support the NRA, I'm all for the right to bare arms, but there's a big difference between a hunting rifle or a 9mm semi-auto and an Uzi with vest piercing bullets, the NRA doesn't get that.)

Also, Stima... you're a local boy... remember a guy called "The Hick from French Lick?"

Larry Bird did fine here. Most people do, they get used to it and how to deal with the media.

I'm more worried about him on field then off.

I'm sure we could list a lot more players in all sport who did fine in Boston that we're from "laid back" places.

Last young pitcher from Texas did pretty good here... until he gained some weight, lost 5-10mph on his fastball and then got motivated by a GM that didn't want to pay him top $$$ for sub-par performance.
Roger Clemens should thank Dan Duqette when he goes into the HOF.
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Old 11-25-2005, 04:46 PM   #405
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Schilling is from Alaska and Timlin is from Texas, and they haven't been hassled by Boston media.

I would be more concerned with what the media says about Beckett's health before his political opinions.
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Schilling was born in Alaska, that doesn't make him from Alaska. Even ikf he was, what does that have to do with anything? Lotta hicks in Alaska?
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Old 11-25-2005, 07:38 PM   #407
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Alaska is full of hicks. Just like the northern part of BC where I live.
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Old 11-25-2005, 07:50 PM   #408
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Rumors is that the Jays are going after Overbay. Dunno if he is a the power hitter that we need but he'd for sure be an upgrade over Hinske at 1B
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A one for one swap, I'd take Overbay. Hopefull that's what is being considered. Anything is better than Hinskeas far as I'm concerned.
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Ryan signs a 5 year / $47 million deal with the Jays.

Holy shit JP
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Rumors is that the Jays are going after Overbay. Dunno if he is a the power hitter that we need but he'd for sure be an upgrade over Hinske at 1B
Jays offered McGowan and Brewers declined. Overbay isn't enough of an upgrade over Hinske to offer much more.
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Holy shit JP
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Omar....get Wagner. NOW!!!!!
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Old 11-25-2005, 08:28 PM   #413
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Wagner is 99% to the Mets, don't worry. Omar said he wants to get the closer out fo the way as soon as posible and spend more time taking care of catcher and other positions.
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Old 11-25-2005, 08:34 PM   #414
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Holy shit wow

Pretty happy about this, that is a huge contract but I trust JP
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Old 11-25-2005, 08:40 PM   #415
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Old 11-25-2005, 08:43 PM   #416
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If I had a newspaper I would run that as the front headline.

"JP gets expensive BJ, says its worth it"
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Bye bye Batista. Or maybe he'll say around as a middle reliever/spot starter.

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Old 11-25-2005, 09:24 PM   #418
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I would have to think that JP's signing of BJ was also a signal to AJ that the Jays are serious. I wouldn't be surprised to see AJ sign relatively soon now.
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Old 11-26-2005, 12:48 AM   #419
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Isn't that extremely high for him, or is it just me?
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Extremely high for any closer not named Mariano or Dennis
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Old 11-26-2005, 11:42 AM   #421
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Toronto had a real need. They are filling a much needed... need.
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trading for overbay doesn't make much sense since the jays already said they are moving hillenbrand to first base and hinske to the bench.


btw I'm am so fucking happy the jays landed Ryan. no more Blown Save Batista.
 
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Wait, is it true that Mota is going to Boston too? Or was that a joke.
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Read a report that once the Mets get the whole Wagner/catcher situations out of the way, they might try seeing if Trevor Hoffman wants to come to NY and set up Wagner (or vice-versa in some cases...a 2-headed closer, if you will)

As great as that would make the Mets pen, I just can't see a guy who's been a regular closer his whole career (with over 400 saves, no less) decide to give up an everyday closer's role unless the Mets SEVERLY overpaid for him, which I would rather not see.
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Nov 25 - According to the Toronto Sun, the Blue Jays are trying to acquire first baseman Lyle Overbay from the Milwaukee Brewers. The Brewers reportedly asked for right-hander Dustin McGowan, a former No. 1 pick, in exchange for Overbay, 28, who hit .276 with 19 home runs and 72 RBI in 2005. Toronto declined a deal for McGowan, 23, who apperaed in 13 games for the Jays last season, and finished with 1-3 with a 6.35 ERA in seven starts.
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Molina, who has spent his entire career with the Angels, is coming off his best season and is one of the best-available catchers in free agency. He hit .295 with 15 home runs and 69 RBI and threw out 31 percent of all runners who attempted to steal against him.

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If the Sox got Mota too, they got a huge steal
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File under "See: Dan Kolb"
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Yeah, and you are basing that off of what?

Kolb's big season he got 39 saves and got 21 strike outs and 39 the year before

Ryan had 34 saves and 100 k's and 122 k's the year before

No doubt the Jays overpaid but Ryan is still a good player and will be a solid closer
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I'm watching videos of Mike Jacobs from this season. I can't believe the Mets traded him. He has such a nice swing. He seemed so perfect. I am going to miss him so much. I was even at his first game/at bat/hit/home run. I hope he kills us every time we play the Marlins. This is just like Scott Kazmir all over again.
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Old 11-27-2005, 12:15 AM   #434
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Old 11-27-2005, 12:39 AM   #435
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I'm watching videos of Mike Jacobs from this season. I can't believe the Mets traded him. He has such a nice swing. He seemed so perfect. I am going to miss him so much. I was even at his first game/at bat/hit/home run. I hope he kills us every time we play the Marlins. This is just like Scott Kazmir all over again.
Jacobs still has severe problems with swinging at balls out of the strike zone...this problem could become huge if it isn't corrected fast. Jacobs will likely see his share of ups and downs in his full rookie season.

I too was at his first game/at bat/hit/home run, and I will miss him...but this is NOWHERE near Kazmir level. Here, they are trading a guy who had one great month for a guy with a career of sucess. Kazmir-for-Zambrano was a young fireballer for a crappy pitcher who couldn't find the strikezone. Delgado makes everyone in the batting order better...Zambrano did fuck all for the Mets rotation.

Also, fuck you. No true fan wishes to get destroyed by the opposition.
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Omar still wants Manny apparently

He's already said Delgado will be on the team, I'm guessing if we were to give up Manny without dealing Milledge, we'd have to include Floyd in there, though he's on the last year in his deal. I'd try and package together something to bring Manny and Clement to NY, but I'd keep Milledge at all costs. Maybe they want youth and would rather take Nady or Diaz? I dunno.

I won't lie though, the thought of this lineup has me salivating:

SS - Reyes (Switch)
CF - Beltran (Switch)
RF - Manny (Right)
1B - Delgado (Left)
3B - Wright (Right)
LF - Floyd (Left)
C - Hernandez/Molina (Right)
2B - Matsui/Hernandez/Keppinger (Switch...or Right if it's Keppinger)

Constantly giving managers headaches with that lineup
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Sunday, November 27
WHOINTERESTEDTHE SKINNY

Paul Konerko
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Sox set deadline
Nov 27 - White Sox GM Ken Williams has set a deadline regarding their efforts to re-sign free-agent first baseman Paul Konerko, according to the Chicago Tribune. "One way or another, we need closure by the [end of the] winter meetings," said Williams in a conference call with Chicago media on Friday. The winter meetings end Dec. 8.
Williams said he "will remain positive and optimistic" about re-signing Konerko, but "not so much I won't pursue other avenues [for trades] if he's not coming back."
The White Sox made the first move in trying to get Konerko back, offering him a four-year, $52 million deal, the Daily Southtown recent reported. But Konerko is intent on finding out how much he's worth on the open market.
ESPN.com Insider Jerry Crasnick reported that Boston's front office contingent with Craig Landis, Konerko's representative.

WHOINTERESTEDTHE SKINNY

Ramon Hernandez
Padres
Mets?
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Matching deals
Nov 27 - The Mets offered both Hernandez and Bengie Molina free-agent contracts, according to the New York-area newspapers.They were believed to be similar three-year contracts worth $5 million to $6 million per season, an official told the Daily News. Mets GM Omar Minaya wouldn't say which catcher he preferred. Newsday reports that the Mets appear to prefer Hernandez and that the three-year deals were worth about $7 million per season.
"They're both very good catchers," Minaya said. "I don't want to get into my evaluation of the catchers. ... I am not going to [reveal] how I value these guys."
The Diamondbacks are apparently wooing Hernandez as well, according to the Arizona Republic. The Orioles, the Baltimore Suns reports, are also interested in Hernandez.

WHOINTERESTEDTHE SKINNY

Bengie Molina
Angels
Mets
First offer for Molina
Nov 27 - The Mets offered both Molina and Ramon Hernandez free-agent contracts, according to the New York-area newspapers.They were believed to be similar three-year contracts worth $5 million to $6 million per season, an official told the Daily News. Newsday reports that the three-year deals were worth about $7 million per season.
According to the Daily News, Molina was delighted to get the offer, said one of his representatives, Alan Nero, who also said the Mets were the first team to offer Molina a contract.

WHOINTERESTEDTHE SKINNY

Paul Byrd
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Rangers
Byrd to the Birds?
Nov 27 - Sources have told the Baltimore Sun that the Orioles have offered Paul Byrd a two-year contract with an option for a third year. Byrd went 12-11 with a 3.74 ERA last season. The deal, according to sources, is believed to be worth between $10 million and $13 million.
Citing club sources, the Fort Worth Star-Telegram reported the Rangers plan to offer Byrd a contract as well.

WHOINTERESTEDTHE SKINNY

Juan Pierre
Marlins
Rangers?
Juan to watch
Nov 27 - The Rangers are interested in outfielder Juan Pierre, reports the Fort Worth Star-Telegram. Pierre, a five-year arbitration-eligible player who made $3.4 million in base salary in 2005 who can be a free agent after next season, could play left field for Texas, which already has Gary Matthews and Laynce Nix in center. And Pierre would give the Rangers a true leadoff hitter, although his OBP dropped to .326 in 2005.

WHOINTERESTEDTHE SKINNY

Carl Pavano
Yankees
Marlins?
Mariners?
Tigers?
Yanks not shopping Pavano
Nov 27 - The New York Daily News reports that the Yankees are not shopping Carl Pavano. "We think he'll help stabilize our staff instead of taking away from it," GM Brian Cashman said.
According to the Newark Star-Ledger, Pavano has been telling friends he wants out of New York.
The right-hander, who signed a four-year, $39.95 million deal with the Yankees last offseason, is reportedly "miserable." A baseball official told the Daily News that the Tigers, who pursued Pavano as a free agent last winter, were interested in him.

WHOINTERESTEDTHE SKINNY

Octavio Dotel
Athletics
Cardinals?
Rangers?
Texas wants Dotel
Nov 27 - The Rangers are trying to sign relief pitcher Octavio Dotel, according to the Fort Worth Star-Telegram. Dotel had reconstructive elbow surgery in June while with the Oakland A's. A deal for Dotel, who is expected to be ready in April, could get done at the end of the winter meetings, the Star-Telegram reports.
However, according to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, the Cardinals have shown interest in Dotel as well. His agent, Dan Horwits, said the Cardinals have called him regarding Dotel and that Dotel's willingness to be a setup man has attracted more interest
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