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Old 02-05-2004, 08:43 AM   #1
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Just saw that the US soccer team is gonna play against the Netherlands, i ain't a big soccer fan and i don't follow soccer on tv but when the US plays i got to see it...and what about the Netherlands are they any good?


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they... i dunno. they should rule. just about every player on their team is quality, but they don't seem to function too great as a team.
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Holland are a bnuch of individuals who are good,but a team who aren't,for some reason.
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Kay so we can kick there ass?
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Kay so we can kick there ass?
We took down Portugual and almost got by Germany in the WC, so I don't see why not.
 
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We took down Portugual and almost got by Germany in the WC, so I don't see why not.
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Where is the match?

America or Holland?
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Its on 02/18/2004 don't know the time and its in the Netherlands.
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Its on 02/18/2004 don't know the time and its in the Netherlands.
I'd have to go with Holland if they're at home,if it was in the U.S then it might have been different.

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I'd have to go with Holland if they're at home,if it was in the U.S then it might have been different.

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Scotland 1 Netherlands 0

Netherlands 6 Scotland 0
WTF they firs lost 1-0 and then they won 6-0, i still believe we can win....I hope. And what about England did they kick the Netherlands ass?
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I'd have to go with Holland if they're at home,if it was in the U.S then it might have been different.

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Euro 96

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8 years ago.
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Only proves my point that against half-decent sides they are poor away from home,apart from when they won in Germany.
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Only proves my point that against half-decent sides they are poor away from home,apart from when they won in Germany.
This sucks...well gotta hope for the best.
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If its in Holland, I would presume a dicking will commence
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It'll be a friendly, depends how seriously they take it and how much experimentation they do with players who might or might not be regulars.
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I think Holland still have something to prove and even though it's a friendly, they'll still want to scare the opposition before 2004.
Ruud is going to destroy your back line if he plays.
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Aren't Hollands key players more offensive minded? Ruud, Jimmy-Floyd (Is he on the national team), Edgar Davids, Seedorf, Bergkamp, Kluivert. Maybe some of these players have retired, but if I'm not mistaken they are all more offensive players. Who are there good backs?
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I have to assume Freddy Adu isn't on the roster. Isn't this preparing for the Olympic Qualifying? I know Landon Donovan is on the roster and I think DeMarcus Beasley is, but they didn't list any other names in the paper.
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Aren't Hollands key players more offensive minded? Ruud, Jimmy-Floyd (Is he on the national team), Edgar Davids, Seedorf, Bergkamp, Kluivert. Maybe some of these players have retired, but if I'm not mistaken they are all more offensive players. Who are there good backs?
Bergkamp is retired from international football, Jimmy is a Dutch international but Ruud and Kluivert get in ahead of him.

As far as defensive players go, Frank de Boer, Jaap Stam, Van Bronckhorst, Van Der Sar in goal.

Frank de Boer scored against Scotland (I think), Van Bronckhorst gets forward, so yes, they do have a lot of offensive players.
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Kluivert won't get a game now. They said his partnership with Van Nistelrooy wouldn't work (or Advocaat don't like it) and since RVN and Rafeal Van Der Vaart hit it off big time, they will probably be the attacking two now.
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I have to assume Freddy Adu isn't on the roster. Isn't this preparing for the Olympic Qualifying? I know Landon Donovan is on the roster and I think DeMarcus Beasley is, but they didn't list any other names in the paper.
I dunno I don't give a shit about US soccer

Until they get good, then I am jumping on the Adu Bandwagon
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Until they get good, then I am jumping on the Adu Bandwagon
Did you see the World Cup? How much better do you want them to be. They are a good soccer team right now and will only get better as time goes on.
 
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We had a 1-1 draw with Denmark in Los Angeles and that goal was on a PK in like the 85th minute

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I hate to say it but the World Cup doesn't really give a good picture of where American Soccer is today. Beating Portugal was huge, so was the tie with South Korea, but we still lost to Poland didn't we? And Mexico isn't the toughest opponent to face in elimination. Granted we did play pretty well against a good German side, and that one goal was stopped by a hand ball, and their only goal was on their stellar set play unit, but still. A lot of the good teams didn't do too well in that tournament, Italy, France, and the Netherlands didn't even make it. It did show that we are definately coming out of the closet, but we still have a ways to go to compete with nations that have the EPL, Seria A, or Primera Liga feeding them.
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Kluivert won't get a game now. They said his partnership with Van Nistelrooy wouldn't work (or Advocaat don't like it) and since RVN and Rafeal Van Der Vaart hit it off big time, they will probably be the attacking two now.
serves him right. the guy's a prick.

I found it funny how he was slagging off ruud after one game though and said he should be dropped, but advocaat played ruud anyway without kluivert and he scored a hat-trick
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The Dutch forward rankings are probably something like Van Nistelrooy, Van Der Vaart, Makaay (who is still a kickass player) and then Kluivert and the rest.

I dunno if Adu is old enough to play...I'm sure there's a restriction that says he wouldn't be able to play a full international at 15.

The US team has improved a lot but until the players start playing consistently in higher quality leagues (a few of them do but mostly they play on loan for a few months while MLS is inactive) they're going to stagnate sooner rather than later.
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Holland are a bnuch of individuals who are good,but a team who aren't,for some reason.
They still managed to utterly stuff Scotland last time we played them.

But then we're not exactly an especially good team either.
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Basically the ball comes in and he kind of scorpion kicks cos its at head height and behind him and it flicks off his heel and goes in.

One of the best goals I've ever seen.
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Old 02-06-2004, 10:41 AM   #35
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Isn't he German?
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Old 02-06-2004, 11:35 AM   #36
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Sorry I spelt it wrong, I meant Scneijder. The bloke that Utd wanted to buy. He tore up Scotland in the second leg.
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Old 02-06-2004, 11:40 AM   #37
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Sorry I spelt it wrong, I meant Scneijder. The bloke that Utd wanted to buy. He tore up Scotland in the second leg.
Oh yeah,the set piece taker?

He was the man.
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Anyone seen that goal by Van der Vaart?

Basically the ball comes in and he kind of scorpion kicks cos its at head height and behind him and it flicks off his heel and goes in.

One of the best goals I've ever seen.
Not too brag, but I've scored a goal exactly the same as that for my local side
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Old 02-06-2004, 12:07 PM   #39
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