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Old 01-28-2006, 01:52 PM   #1441
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the player to be named later was a 2nd tier, single A player.

Crisp will hit more HR's than Damon. He'll get close to, if not 200 hits in that line up. He'll score as many runs or close to as Damon did. As far as I'm concerned, he'll put up similar, if not better numbers than Damon. I doubt he'll be the clubhouse leader that Damon was, but his production will make people quickly forget about Damon.
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Oh and Renteria will bounce back in Atlanta, IMO
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Where did you hear that? PTBNL's are usually announced weeks later
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Expect Piazza in a Padres uniform in a few days. Could be the only team to start the season carrying 3 catchers (Paizza, Mirabelli, Ross)
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Read it somethere this morning. I'll look around for it... I thought it was known, so I didn't post a story/link
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The Indians, troubled by the results of Mota's physical, asked that the deal be reworked. The Red Sox balked, but wound up adding cash and a second-tier minor leaguer, according to a source close to the negotiations
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Padres might start with 3 catchers, but they never expected to loose Hernandez. Mirabelli was supposed to just be a backup. I think it's a wise move for San Diego in an offensive bat kind of way.
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Boston needed a centerfielder.
Cleveland wanted a top prospect.

Cleveland had the position of power and that's why they won this deal. Unless you think the third baseman of the Buffalo Bisons is more important to Cleveland than the centerfielder of the Boston Red Sox is to Boston, there's really no argument otherwise.
There were other CF's and other possiblities.

in the terms of reteria & shoppach for Crisp I'm ok with it.

In the terms of Matre & Shoppach they over paid, but time will tell what Crisp does, I still think he's short term for CF and will eventually go to RF.
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Had a look at the Padres 1B position for this up coming year. They have unproven players there, so Piazza also could become the everyday 1B should their prospects fail this season.
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Piazza will play some 1B, but he will never be the starting 1B for any major league team. He's just too terrible at it.
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AvgHRRBIRunsSB
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Those are Renteria's numbers, followed by Damon's, last season for the Red Sox.

A look at Renteria's numbers from years past shows that he was basically on pace from what he's done in the seasons prior to last. Yet he's pushed out by Boston as being a bust. I say Boston expected him to be more than he ever was. He's not great, never really was, so why the surprise.

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Isn't it odd how the #'s aren't all that far off of Damon's?

Here are Crisp's #'s for last season.

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Thanks, but I'll take those, with the potential of # inflation in the Boston lineup over Damon's any day.
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.366 (Damon) and .335 (Renteria) is a big difference in OBP. The first two guys in the order need to get on, Damon did a good job of that and Renteria did a below-average job of that. I do agree though that they overrated Renteria to begin with and should've prepared for the NL-AL dropoff.
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Piazza will play some 1B, but he will never be the starting 1B for any major league team. He's just too terrible at it.
The site I read (FOX Sports) had him listed as an outfielder first.

I'm not saying he'd become a star at the position, but he offers the ability to provide an offensive bat and play a versatile role as well as an insurance policy. Depending what he recievs in terms of $$$$ it could be a vert wise move for the Padres.
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He is an outfielder but with the Cameron trade he'll at 1B.

I think you overlook how truly terrible Piazza is at 1B. He's embarassingly bad. Walter Young is equally bad at first but twice the power hitter than Piazza at this point in their careers.

Adrain Gonzalez is the 1B of the future, but he's not ready. May be in line for a July call-up though.
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Thomas blasted the White Sox. Feels he was treated poorly this off season. Even said he'd put up better #'s than Thome.

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"I just think I deserved better, some closure, in Chicago," Thomas said. "If they'd just said they were going in a different direction, it would be fine, but no one gave me any heads up about what was going on." Thomas also said Jim Thome, acquired by Chicago in a trade to give the team some punch at designated hitter, had more injuries than he did last season and is not a better hitter.
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Piazza's all about offense I'm saying. Something that San Diego may find themselves in desperate need of.
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I agree with Thomas. He has basically been the face of the White Sox forever, and when healthy last year he had so many big hits for them. Adding Jim Thome isn't really an upgrade, IMO, especially since they had to part with Rowand.

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The A's have been a really solid team since 2000, I think this is the year they make the playoff push however. If Thomas goes down it will be alot harder IMO
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Yes, the sox did overpay for Renteria in the first place, everyone (even them) knew that.

However the sox getting rid of him had very little to do with his hitting, it was his feilding. He could have had the same hitting he had done all his career and put up all thoese errors and they still would have shippped him out.

It's funny, they could have kept Cabrera for less money the hitting still wouldn't have been there, but the fielding would have been much better. The word was he was somehow a "clubhouse problem" in the short time he was in Boston.

I still remember he flew home because if I remember correctly his wife needed surgery and a lot of people didn't think he'd be back or not for awhile, the report is after his wife was stable he told her "my team needs me" and flew back, had to convince Francona to put him in the lineup that night and bingo, hit a walk off HR in the 12th. I dunno, what his "clubhouse issues" were but I wouldn't have minded seeing him back.
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Exactly, Renteria was better at grounding into double plays then turning them. You can't really blame 30+ errors on the switching of the leagues, the field is the same in both leagues.
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True as it may be that Thomas > Thome when healthy,Thome, IMO has a better chance to get and stay healthy than does Thomas.
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Piazza officially a Padre. Maybe he can play on Team Mexico now too. $2 million in 2006, 2007 team option worth $8 million.
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Damn, Piazza is a Rockies killer (who isnt? ) so I'm not pleased with this. It'll be interesting to see what kind of numbers he puts up because his opposite field power will be completely sapped at Petco.
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I'm pretty high on Crisp personally. I think he'll be more than productive this season.
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I'm surprised how little interest in Erubiel Durazo there's been. He's hit 20+ homers his last two healthy seasons and had a OPS over .900 in 2004. A team like the Yankees who need a lefty power bat off the bench should look into him.
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Yeah, I was hoping the Yankees would look into him. The Yanks don't have any power bats off the bench, which Ruben Sierra was basically doing the past couple seasons. Anyways, I'm assuming Bernie Williams is going to be the full time DH, with Sheffield/Giambi getting a couple DH spots here and there.

I've also heard that Andy Phillips will be getting a considerable time at DH which I'm not going to be looking forward to. Cashman seems to be pretty high on him for whatever reason. Durazo would be a much better DH option than Phillips and would come pretty cheap.
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I think that if Phillips is in the lineup it will be at 1B and slide Giambi to DH
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Then and as a late inning defensive replacement for Giambi I've heard. Giambi is awful hitting as a DH though so I could deal with his defense if he keeps hitting.

BTW, is Durazo fully healed from his injury or does he still have some time to go before he is 100 percent?
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He had Tommy John surgery in August and isn't expected to be back ready for the start of the season. He shouldn't miss too much time though, maybe just April.
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Piazza officially a Padre. Maybe he can play on Team Mexico now too. $2 million in 2006, 2007 team option worth $8 million.
I really don't understand this deal for either side. I mean, what the fuck are the Padres doing trading away one of their best players for Mirabelli and then turning around and signing Piazza to be the starting catcher?

And why would Piazza want to play in PetCo?
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Old 01-31-2006, 10:48 AM   #1474
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I really don't understand this deal for either side. I mean, what the fuck are the Padres doing trading away one of their best players for Mirabelli and then turning around and signing Piazza to be the starting catcher?

And why would Piazza want to play in PetCo?
Like I posted earlier, the Padres didn't expect to loose Hernandez in the first place. Mirabelli was to be his back up. That still doesn't explain why they'd move Loretta, however.
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Why Loretta was traded

1. http://thebaseballcube.com/players/B...barfield.shtml
2. He's 34
3. His SLG was below .400 this year
4. He can't stay healthy

I like Loretta but I agreed with the decision to trade him. I don't like Mirabelli that much and I think they could have gotten something much better.
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Old 01-31-2006, 09:27 PM   #1476
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Twins got Reuben Sierra. Good pick-up IMO.

I have faith that the Twins will put up a fight again in the Central. Still one of the top pitching staffs in the league with a solid bullpen and one of the top closers in the league. In terms of offense, Luis Castillo fills a huge gap where just about anybody played last year. Tony Batista is a huge risk, but the worst that can happen is Cuddyer replaces him, so that's no worse than last year.

I would assume the opening day lineup looks something like this.

1. Castillo (2B)
2. Stewart (LF)
3. Mauer (C)
4. Morneau (1B)
5. White (DH)
6. Hunter (CF)
7. Ford (RF)
8. Batista (3B)
9. Bartlett (SS)

Then you have Jason Kubel, who was a top prospect, Sierra, power off the bench, Cuddyer, the utility man, and Nick Punto, another solid utility player. What happened last year is that there was no hitting late in the order and there was no relief off the bench.

In the best case scenario, Mauer could be an All Star, Morneau could be a top 5 first baseman in the AL, and Kubel could be all that he is cracked up to be.

So I don't think things are as bad as they sound. The AL central could suddenly be the most contested in the AL this year.
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I don't think Sierra makes the team unless Kubel has a really shitty spring. I also think Cuddyer will win the RF job over Ford.

I like the Twins, last year they had great pitching and no offense; this year they have great pitching and an ok offense. Really all you need to succeed in the regular season. They'll have a better record than Cleveland.
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Sierra sucks, but for some reason he always gets a big hit. I don't get it.
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I still say White Sox are gonna be the best team in the AL again next year. The Twins could easily be 2nd in AL Central and maybe get the wild card spot, unless the Red Sox and Yankees fight for the spot like every year.
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Hot internet rumor today, probably BS though

Red Sox get:
OF/1B Xavier Nady
OF Lastings Milledge (AA)

Nationals get:
SP Matt Clement
SS Alex Cora

Mets get:
2B Jose Vidro
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