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Old 02-06-2006, 12:36 PM   #1
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NFL 2006 Offseason Thread
Let us begin our 7 month wait until the 2006/2007 season begins and do what every NFL fan likes to do: speculate. Running backs are the big deal the offseason with the UFA list including Shaun Alexander, Ahman Green, Edgerrin James, Jamal Lewis, Chester Taylor, DeShaun Foster, Najeh Davenport, and Michael Bennet among others.

Also for those wondering, the Draft order is as follows:

1 Houston
2 New Orleans
3 Tennessee
4 New York Jets
5 Green Bay
6 Oakland
7 San Francisco
8 Buffalo
9 Detroit
10 Arizona
11 St. Louis
12 Cleveland
13 Baltimore
14 Philadelphia
15 Atlanta
16 Miami
17 Minnesota
18 Dallas
19 San Diego
20 Kansas City
21 New England
22 Denver (f/WAS)
23 Tampa Bay
24 Cincinnati
25 New York Giants
26 Chicago
27 Carolina
28 Jacksonville
29 Denver
30 Indianapolis
31 Seattle
32 Pittsburgh


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Well, there's not much going around at the moment so I'll just throw this out there.

Here is a mock draft for 06, no idea how reliable this guy is or whatever but there's a nice amount of info on the guys beyond the obvious Bush/Leinart fanfare. It was written before the Senior Bowl tho.

-edit- nm they've updated now
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in case you wondering.

Underclassmen in 2006 NFL draft
Player School Pos. Year
Darnell Bing USC S Jr.
Cornell Brockington UConn RB Jr.
Reggie Bush USC RB Jr.
Brian Calhoun Wisconsin RB Jr.
Antonio Cromartie Florida State CB Jr.
Vernon Davis Maryland TE Jr.
Maurice Drew UCLA RB Jr.
Ray Edwards Purdue DE Jr.
Anthony Fasano Notre Dame TE Jr.
Charles Gordon Kansas WR Jr.
Willie Hall Middle. Tenn. St. OT Jr.
Devin Hester Miami-FL RS/DC/WR Jr.
Santonio Holmes Ohio State WR Jr.
Chad Jackson Florida WR Jr.
Omar Jacobs Bowling Green QB Jr.
Cornell Johnson Indiana State RB Jr.
Marquis Johnson Texas Tech WR Jr.
Johnathan Joseph South Carolina CB Jr.
Winston Justice USC OT Jr.
Brandon Kirsch Purdue QB Jr.
Greg Lee Pittsburgh WR Jr.
Laurence Maroney Minnesota RB Jr.
Richard Marshall Fresno St. CB Jr.
Derrick Martin Wyoming CB Jr.
Fred Matua USC G Jr.
John McCargo North Carolina State DT Jr.
Stanley McClover Auburn DE Jr.
Tony McDaniel Tennessee DT Jr.
Derek Morris North Carolina State OT Jr.
Haloti Ngata Oregon DT Jr.
Kai Parham Virginia LB Jr.
Bobby Payne Middle Tennessee DE Jr.
Bernard Pollard Purdue DS Jr.
Leonard Pope Georgia TE Jr.
Drouzon Quillen Louisiana-Monroe WR Jr.
Cory Rodgers Texas Christian WR Jr.
Ko Simpson South Carolina S Jr.
Ernie Sims Florida State LB Jr.
Daniel Smith Idaho WR Jr.
Rob Smith Tennessee OG Jr.
Stephen Tulloch N.C. State LB Jr.
Marcus Vick Virginia Tech QB Jr.
Dee Webb Florida CB Jr.
LenDale White USC RB Jr.
Donte Whitner Ohio State S Jr.
Mario Williams N.C. State DE Jr.
Ashton Youboty Ohio State CB Jr.
Vince Young Texas QB Jr.
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giants need to draft at least one of these players:
tye hill
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thomas howard
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giants need to draft at least one of these players:
tye hill
antonio cromartie
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sinorice moss
greg blue
ernie sims
manny lawson
Why?
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As far as the Jets go, most talks are that they're going after Young, Leinart, Bush if available at 4 , and if not then D'Bricksaw Ferguson. Not to crazy about that, but 1st round OLs have a history of working out well, so I dunno I guess that'd be fine. The line was really hacked up this year avec no Mawae or Fabini ect.
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The Giants biggest hole this year was by far the secondary. Tye Hill & Antonio Cromartie are two very good looking cornerbacks who are likely to fall to the number 25 spot. Brent Alexander was the most consistent guy in the secondary and he is like 36 and led the team with 4 INTs but is pretty much on the decline so Greg Blue would be a nice fill in. He doesn't have to start immediately but if it comes time when Alexander has to go then Blue would be a good replacement. There is no intimidating presence in our secondary right now but Blue could be the guy who scares the opponent cause he hits like a machine. Although he does seem to get lost in pass coverage and we can't really afford that.

Thomas Howard, Ernie Sims both fast OLB and Carlos Emmons probably won't be back next year and even if he is I think we proved that we don't have much depth at linebacker. Reggie Torbor, Nick Greisen, Chase Blackburn COULD take over an OLB spot but I don't think they are good enough to start for a saeson. Manny Lawson a 2nd-3rd round guy with same qualities as Sims and Howard but doesn't have great instincts or anything. I'd rather we focus on getting Blue/Moss in 2nd/3rd round.

Giants lack a solid #3 WR right now. We have Tim Carter who is really fast but drops everything and Jamaar Taylor who is not as fast. David Tyree is there and I hope he is resigned but he needs to be more of a special teams player than WR. Sinorice Moss gives the Giants a fast young receiver at #3 who would really "complete" the offense.

Any of these could change with a free agent signing though
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I agree with pretty much everything that AssMan said. I doubt Emmons, W. Allen or Green will be back on defense. We need better play from our secondary without a doubt, but I don't know that additions are what we need. We have the secondary coach from Kansas City so we'll see. If we can get Corey Webster to step up, and Will Peterson to get through the season uninjured our starting secondary looks solid, with Peterson and Webster on the corners, Brent Alexander and Gibril the Thrill at the safeties I think we'll be okay.

At linebacker, I think Emmons is up there and the injuries are a sign of his soon to be departure, although I'm not quite sure he will get released this year. I think Barrett Green should be released because of injuries and falling out with Coughlin, too much money going to him to not play. Out of our other LB's, Pierce will return to anchor the middle, I can see Emmons and Torbor playing the outside, with Greisen and Blackburn providing depth (Blackburn looked promising in his short stint and Greisen is very solid). We should probably keep Kevin Lewis, who has been in the system for depth, if we have to get rid of someone here.

I agree with AssMan on what he said about the #3 WR, only thing I would add is that we could use a stud LT. Luke Petitgout is solid in terms of blocking but he is dumb as fuck with penalties and for that he should get the boot.
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An LT would be nice but Ernie Accorsi has already announced that the offensive line will not be focused on this offseason. Yeah Petitgout is retarded with penalties but his blocking is fine. The line really meshed this season and if you look at the 04-05 season you will see how much of a huge upgrade it was. No need to change anything there.
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No there really isn't, but I honestly wouldn't mind them using a draft pick or using cap space to bring in a LT to scare Petitgout into not being a total moron all the time.

We need secondary help, although I don't think it necessarily needs to come through addition or subtraction, but better coaching and scheming.

We really need better depth at WR, as you said, and probably some young LB's to mold into a starting core.
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I could see Antonio Cromartie falling since he was injuried all of last season, dude is sick. If he comes back 100% he'll be a starter as a rookie.
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I really hope the Bengals take Darnell Bing. He is nasty and really underrated IMO. Plus what's better than getting knocked out by a guy named Bing
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Yeah I am kind of surprised Bing came out. I figured he would have stuck around for his senior season and came out as a top 10 pick next season. He will be another steal in the draft IMO. I am curious to what the Patriots are gonna do, there is a lot of different directions to go.
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Kind of a homer pick but I'd love for the Bengals to get Bobby Carpenter too. He's almost as fast as AJ Hawk and a lot bigger.
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Thanks, I don't follow the Giants closely and was just wondering why you picked those guys specificly.

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Mandalay Bay early lines to win the superbowl next year.

Colts 4-1
Seahawks 5-2
Patriots 5-2

Then were the Steelers and either Cinci or Denver, I forget what the line was.
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Who do you see the Pats taking? The only thing that comes to mind for me is maybe a safety. I know Rodney Harrison will probably be back, but a season ending injury at his age will probably slow him down quite a bit. I'm thinking someone on defense though that can provide some depth with the insane amount of injuries the Pats racked up this year.
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Who do you see the Pats taking? The only thing that comes to mind for me is maybe a safety. I know Rodney Harrison will probably be back, but a season ending injury at his age will probably slow him down quite a bit. I'm thinking someone on defense though that can provide some depth with the insane amount of injuries the Pats racked up this year.
1st round...

LB is my first thought, simply because even though he keeps getting better with age, McGinist isn't getting any younger and with the move of Vrabel to Inside, I could see them going for an OLB.

Saftey might also be a choice, however that depends on how Harrison looks, they still have Eugene Wilson at one safey, I could see them more likely to take a vetran saftey via free agency.

CB is also possible, although Ellis Hobbs really stepped up this year and there is talk of Ty Law wanting to come back to finish with the Pats, Law had like 10 picks last year, but from what I've seen/heard had a horrible year. That being said, he played about 20lbs over his playing weight because he didn't have a full off-season due to injury... I'd take an in shape Ty Law and the Jets will probably cut him, because I think he gets a 10mil bonus?

So yeah, LB (probably OLB) would be my best guess for round #1.

Dark horse, DE, why? If they think they're going to have problems resigning Richard Seymor, they could go for a DE "just in case".
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him or Muhammed Abdullah of UK both are great strong safeties.
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Surprised nobody has mentioned Martz taking the Lions OC job yet. Ok ok so it's the Lions, but still. You have to think he could get at least *some* improvement out of that group.

Bobby Petrino apparently turned down $18m over 5 years to coach the Raiders because his kid didn't want to move. Hire a nanny or something, jeez. Art Shell might be back in the job. Which would be kind of funky.

Houston have taken up the $8m option on Carr. Hellooooo Reggie Bush. Or tradedown, whatever works.
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If Martz went to the Lions as the OC, I would just want to die if they didn't make the playoffs within at least three years just on pure offensive potency alone.
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So pretty much it's a given..Bush to Houston. Now if they can get some o-lineman, maybe they'll be able to convert some first downs.
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Should we put you on suicide watch now or later
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Who knows, he might turn them around. But Jones, Williams, Rogers and Williams aren't exactly Faulk, Holt, Bruce and Hakim. They really need to fix their O-line up, then maybe they can build something.
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Won't matter if they don't have a reliable QB.
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Dunno, you could *maybe* compare Harrington to David Carr, I guess, in that his problems are probably all in his head at this point. But yeah I imagine he'd probably love to snag Warner or somebody like that.
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Warner should stop running around to take starting jobs at bad gigs, his time is up
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