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Old 03-15-2006, 10:03 PM   #1
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Any acual good heels left?
Ok, I was sitting in class today and I was thinking. What heel makes you boo because he is that good of a heel? I can't remember booing because the person was good at his character.

HHH comes close at times, but never would get me to boo if I was at the arena. Kurt Angle could never make me boo. Randy Orton dosn't seem to do it, to me it is just like 2 regular guys in a wrestling match now a days.

Sorry for typos that are probably in here, I am kind of in a rush

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I know Kurt is a Face now, was just a example that I can't take him serious as a heel.
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Old 03-15-2006, 10:06 PM   #2
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Old 03-15-2006, 10:10 PM   #3
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HHH is good when he tries.

Orton was good, but they killed the character.

Simon Dean gets a good reaction from me but I haven't seen him in a while.

JBL's still gold.
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Old 03-15-2006, 10:10 PM   #4
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Cena is an awesome heel, gets booed alot and poeple love to do it.

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Old 03-15-2006, 10:11 PM   #5
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JBL....thats it

I also like how they are having mark henry not be afriad of the undertaker.

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Old 03-15-2006, 10:18 PM   #7
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Cena is an awesome heel, gets booed alot and poeple love to do it.

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Old 03-15-2006, 10:27 PM   #8
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Old 03-15-2006, 10:30 PM   #9
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Old 03-15-2006, 10:31 PM   #10
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Old 03-15-2006, 11:17 PM   #12
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JBL.
Carlito (well, mostly he makes you laugh, then he does that Reigns Neckbreaker on Victoria, and you remember -- oh yeah, he's a HEEL)
Orton (before they effed him up)

so yeah... I'm thinking, JBL really goes the extra mile to get those boos. Though, his "WRESTLING......GOD" thing is funny enough.
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Old 03-15-2006, 11:17 PM   #13
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Kennedy's a good heel too, if you don't mind the fact that he's out with an injury.
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Old 03-15-2006, 11:21 PM   #14
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Though I always wanna cheer along with "...Kennedy."
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Old 03-15-2006, 11:22 PM   #15
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Kennedy's a good heel too, if you don't mind the fact that he's out with an injury.
I don't know, what exactly is he playing right now? Heel or tweener? It's not face and not exactly heel in my opinion...
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Old 03-15-2006, 11:26 PM   #16
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He's like Carlito. You wanna laugh at their antics but boo out of respect. They're more like childish heels.
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Old 03-15-2006, 11:27 PM   #17
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I don't know, what exactly is he playing right now? Heel or tweener? It's not face and not exactly heel in my opinion...
I think he's playing a cripple.



I think he's supposed to be a heel right now. The problem is, WWE forgot one important thing...

You give the fans something to chant along to, instant face reaction (Even if they boo you 12 seconds later)
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Old 03-15-2006, 11:28 PM   #18
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He's like Carlito. You wanna laugh at their antics but boo out of respect. They're more like childish heels.
He's very much like Carlito. Both are so bad they
re good. But that's pretty close to the definition of a "tweener."
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Old 03-15-2006, 11:32 PM   #19
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Kennedy's a good heel too, if you don't mind the fact that he's out with an injury.
Right before his injury I saw him becoming a face eventually. Maybe not intentionally though. He played a good heel, but was staring to grow on people as soon as he got injured. I know we were all starting to like him... I don't know how the non internet fans were liking him.
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Right before his injury I saw him becoming a face eventually. Maybe not intentionally though. He played a good heel, but was staring to grow on people as soon as he got injured. I know we were all starting to like him... I don't know how the non internet fans were liking him.
He was starting to get small-ish face pops around his injury.

It was those bad apples I tells ya!
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Old 03-15-2006, 11:36 PM   #21
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He was starting to get small-ish face pops around his injury.

It was those bad apples I tells ya!
They were editing his crowd reactions too, trying to pull a Christian on him.

Again, a lot of the heel characters end up with people cheering them because they're the only GOOD characters of some bad apples.
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Old 03-15-2006, 11:38 PM   #22
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Either these are references to Carlito, or the Witch from Snow White.
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Old 03-15-2006, 11:38 PM   #23
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Old 03-15-2006, 11:43 PM   #24
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If they were to push him then I would be all for it
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How would we tell the difference? TNA fans don't know how to distinguish. Hell, if I don't see Brown with Jarrett, I forget he's a heel.
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How would we tell the difference? TNA fans don't know how to distinguish. Hell, if I don't see Brown with Jarrett, I forget he's a heel.
Who, Brown or Jarrett?
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Old 03-16-2006, 12:23 AM   #29
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Adam Pearce, he has an old school feel to him

Jimmy Rave, if you watch ROH enough said. If not, instead of streamers for Jimmy...they throw toilet paper

In the E, Finlay I guess. And Cena, that guy knows how to get the people against him.
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Edge is a good heel; especially when he had the belt.
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Old 03-16-2006, 02:23 AM   #32
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Masters is a great heel because he dosn't have to do ANYTHING for you to hate him besides have an intro.

Trips is trips, he can make anyone a face if he wants.

Orton, before the last HIAC with Taker =/

Lita... what? you tell me you don't cringe when she talks. true heel material.
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Orton has been tearing it up as a heel, minus the whole "Eddies in Hell" thing.

Edge is doing well I think.

JBL also, the guy everyone loves to hate.
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Masters is a great heel because he dosn't have to do ANYTHING for you to hate him besides have an intro.

Lita... what? you tell me you don't cringe when she talks. true heel material.
It's not a heel if you can't get heat/make people change the channel.
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Old 03-16-2006, 10:26 AM   #35
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Vince is great as the evil boss. Though I really could do without seeing a sixty year old man's arse cheeks at 4 in the morning.

Christ, never thought I'd have to say that again.
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Again?

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1: Heels become faces become heels become faces become tweeners become faces... and all of that happens in just a year. When half the roster turns over the course of a PPV (Invasion) you watch the next night and have no idea who to boo. You almost need a score card for some of these guys. Big Show's a perfect example.

2: I'm burnt out on using the ropes for leverage. I get the feeling that everyone else is too. After a certain point of seeing every match finish with a cheat or interference in favor of the heel or a botched cheat/ interference in favor of the face, you'd rather just not watch at all any more

3: Faces win too much. Keep score of the finish of Raw and Smackdown for a while. The number of times a face wins a main event match heavily outweighs the number of times a heel wins (they never win cleanly if they do...) The face is supposed to be the underdog. Why would I ever be interested in a PPV match between Kurt Angle vs. John Cena if Angle gnashes his teeth and says, "I just can't seem to beat that Cena guy!" Same goes for Edge. Everybody remembers the bulley at school. If the bulley constantly got what was coming to him he wouldn't be a threat anymore, and you really wouldn't care if he got in trouble anymore.

4: Championships... Let's take a count here:
WWE title -- Cena (face) Last held by Edge for 2 weeks
World title -- Angle (face) last held by Batista (face) for almost a year
Intercontinental -- Shelton (heel? tweener? really weak ass heel?)
US -- Benoit (face) last held by Booker T who never really defended it.
Women's -- Trish (face) last held by who cares...
Cruiser -- Helms, but it changes once every other week
World tag titles -- Show and Kane (faces?) last defended.......
WWE tag titles -- MNM

So the only title that's acutally held by strong heels right now is the WWE tag titles. How can a heel be credible if they never get a championship run?
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Old 03-16-2006, 03:59 PM   #38
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WWE thinks that giving us candy (The faces dominating) will turn us on to the product again.

I liked Batista as a dominant champion, and if Cena had stayed away from becoming a real face, I wouldn't have minded either. Shelton's a really weak heel, and I can't buy this whole "mama's boy" angle. He seems more like an oblivious kid most of the time.

The "ropes for leverage" bit is annoying, but they really don't have much diversity in the heels either. They need more types of heels to open up the options.
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the lsat heel who really got to me was JBL. I would watch every ppv just to see him loose the damn belt
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How would we tell the difference? TNA fans don't know how to distinguish. Hell, if I don't see Brown with Jarrett, I forget he's a heel.
I think if they gave him enough mic time to put himself over as the future of the industry again he would get some great heat
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