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Old 04-17-2006, 07:13 AM   #1
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Critically Overrated / Critically Underrated
you just cant always trust the critics. sometimes you have to go and see something for yourself, and sometimes you just have to go with your instincts and not go see something.

the purpose for this thread is to expose some critical mis-steps and see how many people feel the same way. here are a couple that have been pissing me off for quite some time:

Critically Overrated: Batman.
personally, i didnt think this movie was all that great back in 1989 when it came out, and in my opinion, no fuckin way this movie still holds up. the whole movie is just fuckin goofy. i tried watching it on HBO yesterday - its just fuckin unwatchable. yet, to this day, critics still talk about that movie like it was the shit, and it still holds up. maybe it's because the next three sequels were so awful that it made the movie seem better than it actually was.

factoid: on the cover (movie case) of "The Crow" it reads: "...the best movie of it's kind since the original Batman." The Crow is so much better than "Batman" on every level that a statement like that which is supposed to be a credit is lunacy.

Critically Underrated: The Punisher.
what the fuck are these critics thinking? just what in the fuck are they looking for in a movie based on a comic book. IMO, out of all of the (recent surge) of comic book-based movies, The Punisher is the best movie. it has a very clean style to it and very well done action sequences; and the casting and acting are well above par. and yet, this movie has been lambasted by critics and wanna-be critics. one critic wrote, "The Punisher is a simple revenge movie that pretends to be something more."

does it?


i just dont see where theyre coming from. i'm not saying that everybody should like this movie, but i really dont see why so many people would claim to hate it - especially when there are movies like "UltraViolet" being made which should be hated.
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Old 04-17-2006, 05:05 PM   #2
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I found Sideways to be massively overrated.
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Old 04-17-2006, 06:13 PM   #3
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I reckon the entire Star Wars saga is overrated. I was more annoyed that Episode 3 was wanked over by the critics and fans alike because I thought it was fucking awful.
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Old 04-17-2006, 06:38 PM   #4
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The Punisher is my favorite movie of all time
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Old 04-17-2006, 08:31 PM   #5
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BATMAN IS NOT OVERRATED YOU PIECE OF FUCKING SHIT. E.T was overrated.
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Old 04-17-2006, 09:01 PM   #6
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Groundhog Day is massively underrated
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Old 04-18-2006, 03:09 AM   #7
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Office space is pretty under rated, ever notice with the underrated movies, barley any one has seen them, but when they have...their always like "Sucha good movie"?
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The Crow is overrated.
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Old 04-18-2006, 03:27 AM   #9
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Office space is pretty under rated, ever notice with the underrated movies, barley any one has seen them, but when they have...their always like "Sucha good movie"?
Actually, I feel the exact opposite. Everyone loves that movie, and I didn't think it was really that great.
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Kung Fu Hustle - WAY overrated. This movie just wasn't funny.

Mystic River - Overrated. It's not a bad movie, but it's not a great movie either. I was disappointed after all the praise the movie got.

Mission Impossible 2 - Underrated. Not as a movie, but as a comparison to the first MI movie, I think MI2 is way better.

25th Hour - Overrated. This movie was just dull.

Daredevil - Underrated. This movie definitely had it flaws, but I think it's a 3/5 movie instead a 1,5/5.

Gigli - Underrated. It's not good, but it's DEFINITELY NOT the worst movie ever made. Don't believe me? Watch Coyote Moon, Snowboard Academy, Blueberry or 2001: A Space Travesty and you KNOW what's a truly awful movie.

51st State - Underrated. Very funny movie.

Blade II - Underrated. Best of the three by far, very entertaining movie with good action sequences.

Phone Booth - UNDERRATED! One of my favourite movies ever made. This is a movie that nailed me on my seat, Colin Farrell's best role by far.
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Old 04-18-2006, 07:29 AM   #11
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Actually, I feel the exact opposite. Everyone loves that movie, and I didn't think it was really that great.
Ditto, didn't think it was bad but it was definately nothing special. Gets way too much hype from people who like it.
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Sin City is insanely overrated. the story with Marv was the only good part of the movie
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BATMAN IS NOT OVERRATED YOU PIECE OF FUCKING SHIT. E.T was overrated.
YES. it IS.
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25th Hour - Overrated. This movie was just dull.
I agree with nearly everything except that. A. I've never really seen 25th Hour praised enough, or talked about enough to be considered overrated. The people who like it may overhype it, but I don't think it's popularity is big enough to be considered overrated.

Also, 25th Hour is based off the book, and it follows it really well. I wouldn't say the movie is dull, but that's just my opinon. The movie does exactly what it should IMO. It's not suppose to be an "exciting movie" really.
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Yeah I thought Punisher was pretty good for what it was, not to bad but not the greatest.
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Phone Booth - UNDERRATED! One of my favourite movies ever made. This is a movie that nailed me on my seat, Colin Farrell's best role by far.
The line about picking up a phone even when you don't know who it is really pissed me off in that.
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I loved The Punisher, the casting of Thomas Jane as Castle was too perfect to be true.
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Old 04-18-2006, 11:28 PM   #18
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I saw Lucky Number Slevin last week, which hasn't been getting much attention, critical or otherwise. I was damn suprised, it was really quite good.
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I agree that Burton's Batman was overrated, but that's mainly because I'm a big fan of the comics and I absolutely LOATHE how much Burton fucked around with the characters (especially Joker)

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Blade Runner- Overrated. I liked the special effects, and thought Harrison Ford was really good in the movie, but the story dragged at parts, and it didn't seem like the movie even had a real ending.

The Producers (2005)- Underrated. It got panned by a lot of critics, and I don't understand why. Granted, Matthew Broderick is no Gene Wilder, but the music was great, the jokes were hysterical, and it was just generally a really enjoyable flick.

Brokeback Mountain- Overrated. I know it's important that a movie that emphasizes homosexual relationships can be praised in the mainstream, but I just thought the movie itself was full of corny dialogue and just plain boring.

Monty Python's The Meaning of Life- Underrated. Meaning of Life always gets brushed aside in favor of Holy Grail or Life of Brian, but it was always my personal favorite.

The Fifth Element- Criminally Underrated. How it never became a classic is beyond me.
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Critics are sometimes right, sometimes wrong. I don't really base my decisions to go see a movie from reviews. Sometimes deciding for yourself is truly best.
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Old 04-19-2006, 06:19 AM   #22
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Mystery Men seems to have gotten shit on alot, I liked it.

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I loved The Punisher, the casting of Thomas Jane as Castle was too perfect to be true.
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The Matrix - Doesnt get anymore overated than that.

The Nightmare Before Christmas - I like it but not enough to buy all the shit at Hot topic.
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Kill Bill 1 and 2, The Harry Potter movies and Brokeback Mountain are all overrated.
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Old 04-22-2006, 10:41 AM   #27
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If I was the bad guys son in the punisher though I would have just dropped the bomb as soon as he gave it to me killing us both.
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I'd say underrated. I don't hear enough people talking about it. Anyone with half a brain that watches it usually loves it, though. The way it effortlessly changes from comedy to drama is extremely admirable.

I'd say underrated.
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Old 04-29-2006, 04:43 AM   #32
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im not sure, but i think some of you might be missing the point. i meant films that were wrongfully praised or lambasted by film critics. not movies and TV shows that dont get enough recognition.
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im not sure, but i think some of you might be missing the point. i meant films that were wrongfully praised or lambasted by film critics. not movies and TV shows that dont get enough recognition.
Oh no, I got the point, it's just someone mentioned Scrubs and didn't no whether or not it qualifies as overrated or underrated. Sorry to go off topic there.
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Old 05-06-2006, 05:27 AM   #35
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Old 05-06-2006, 10:51 AM   #36
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no worries.

Crash is emensely over-rated.

oh, and rich, African American movie director has to stand there with a tear in his eye while LAPD gropes his wife. was the movie supposed to have taken place in 1960. if not, that just aint gonna fuckin happen.
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Old 05-06-2006, 11:20 AM   #37
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The Fifth Element- Criminally Underrated. How it never became a classic is beyond me.
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Old 05-06-2006, 10:11 PM   #38
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I think the big lebowski is overrated, I just haven't been entertained by it every time I've seen it. Which sucks because everyone sucks it's cock.
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^^The Big Lebowski is great. and i usually am very critical of comedies because most lose their funny about 20 minutes in and become sappy and predictable.

not terribly, but somewhat over-rated on the other hand is the 40 Year Old Virgin. i thought that the first hour was hilarious, but the second hour was predictable and distincly not as raw as the first half.

once again, i'm talking about the reviews by critics. i was not aware of a great deal of critical aclaim for The Big Lebowski, but it definitely has a strong following.
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I think the big lebowski is overrated, I just haven't been entertained by it every time I've seen it. Which sucks because everyone sucks it's cock.
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