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Old 05-15-2006, 01:34 AM   #601
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Vince Young and LenDale White in Tennessee is gonna be nuts in a few years though.

Um... Miami, definitely.
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Last year everyone was talking about how the Colts were being favored by the league with there easy schedule, well i read somewhere that this years schedule they play 12 out of 16 games on artificial turf or indoors utilizing there speed.

So you're all probably right. I dunno.
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For Gonzos sake, here are a couple of random guesses, without any prior research

AFC East
New England 11-5
Miami 11-5
Buffalo 7-9
NY Jets 6-10


AFC North
Pittsburgh 12-4
Cincinnatti 11-5
Baltimore 7-9
Cleveland 6-10

AFC South
Indianapolis 13-3
Jacksonville 9-7
Tennessee 7-9
Houston 5-11

AFC West
Denver 13-3
Kansas City 10-6
San Diego 10-6
Oakland 8-8

NFL East
Washington 10-6
NY Giants 9-7
Dallas 9-7
Philadelphia 6-10

NFC North
Minnesota 9-7
Chicago 8-8
Detroit 6-10
Green Bay 6-10

NFC South
Carolina 11-5
Tampa Bay 10-6
Atlanta 7-9
New Orleans 4-12

NFC West
Seattle 11-5
Arizona 9-9
St. Louis 6-10
San Francisco 5-11

AFC Championships
Pittsburgh over Denver
NFC Championships
Carolina over Seattle

Super Bowl
Carolina over Pittsburgh
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Old 05-15-2006, 04:30 PM   #604
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Not sure if your numbers add up there (excl. Arizona at 9-9) but I understand it's just a rough guess. I'd probably agree with most of it, only I don't think there's any way Chargers win 10 games.
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NFC East is going to be nuts. Every team is ridiculously stacked.
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Not sure if your numbers add up there (excl. Arizona at 9-9) but I understand it's just a rough guess. I'd probably agree with most of it, only I don't think there's any way Chargers win 10 games.
Yeah I noticed the 9-9 after posting, I meant 8-8. But yeah, the numbers don't match up with schedules or anything, just a rough estimate of about where there records would be.
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Miami Dolphins picked up Marcus Vick. How many QBs does it take to make a great team?
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NFC East is going to be nuts. Every team is ridiculously stacked.
Yeah it is. If the Eagles get back to top playing form, its really going to be a toss up.

Kind of sucks, because as a Giants fan I'm loving the fact that our team is absolutely stacked. Then, when I realize so are all the other teams in our division its like
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Miami Dolphins picked up Marcus Vick. How many QBs does it take to make a great team?
Lil Mexico was signed to play WR.

Culpepper will be missing at least the first half of the season.

Joey Harrington is quite possibly the worst QB of all time.

...they're still lacking in the QB department.
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Yeah it is. If the Eagles get back to top playing form, its really going to be a toss up.

Kind of sucks, because as a Giants fan I'm loving the fact that our team is absolutely stacked. Then, when I realize so are all the other teams in our division its like
Don't worry, Eagles won't go anywhere. Not without Brad Childress!!!!
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The only thing i can make of Miami is that they are worried Culpepper might not be ready for the start of the season or he might be 1 whole season away from being ready period.
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The Steelers are not winning 12 games this year.
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This article in SI about Hines Ward kind of made him seem like an asshole. Like does he think he is the only person who has had a tough life? He is still really bitter for a dude who makes 25 mil for playing a game - There are plenty of people in the world who have had a shitty life but guess what..they didn't get to sign a 25 million dollar contract, or get a free college education. They are still living the struggle.
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7-9 Falcons? With (what looks to be) one of the sickest D-Lines in the league? No way. The Falcons will be sick this year. Mark my words.
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It could happen, pretty tough division right there.

Thats why I don't really contest the Giants going 9-7, it could happen easily because a few games could go either way. The division is so crazy good that it could happen.
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I've always thought Ward was like a cool guy or whatever - plus I like that the fact that lights dudes up while blocking but he came off as an asshole in SI article. He even bashed Bill Cower for "not giving him a chance as a Rookie" and how they keep drafting other wideouts. While some of this grips are legit, some of the shit he was saying was pretty stupid. I realize he had a rough life, I can only imagine being half Korean/half black must suck since it is nearly impossible to accepted anywhere but come on man let it go you are making millons of dollars to play fucking football.
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7-9 Falcons? With (what looks to be) one of the sickest D-Lines in the league? No way. The Falcons will be sick this year. Mark my words.
They very well could be, but the Bucs and Panthers both made the playoffs last year and should both be a little better. DeAngelo Williams could make an early impact and Cadillac will have a season under his belt. No doubt another hot division, but I guess we'll find out. That's what the seasons for.
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AFC East
New England 12-4
Miami 11-5
NY Jets 8-8
Buffalo 4-12


AFC North
Pittsburgh 11-5
Cincinnatti 10-6
Baltimore 8-8
Cleveland 8-8

AFC South
Indianapolis 14-2
Jacksonville 11-5
Tennessee 6-10
Houston 5-11

AFC West
Denver 14-2
Kansas City 12-4
San Diego 10-6
Oakland 4-12

NFL East
Dallas 12-4
NY Giants 10-6
Philadelphia 9-7
Washington 6-10

NFC North
Green Bay 10-6
Chicago 9-7
Detroit 6-10
Minnesota 5-11

NFC South
Tampa Bay 12-4
Carolina 11-5
Atlanta 9-7
New Orleans 4-12

NFC West
Seattle 11-5
Arizona 10-6
St. Louis 7-9
San Francisco 5-11

AFC Championships
Indianapolis vs New England
NFC Championships
Dallas vs Giants

Super Bowl
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1: Let him have a chip on his shoulder. He's not the fastest, strongest or best guy but he plays like a freak. You only do that with a chip on your shoulder. If he actually realized how lucky he truly is, he'd probably start sucking hardcore.

2: SI has a way of bringing out the worst in people. I don't know if they embellish, or know how to ask the right/wrong questions, to be honest. They made Kevin Garnett sound like an asshole. Sure, on the court he would rip your nuts off and shove them down your throat if you pissed him off. But off the court, he's definitely crazy... but he's also one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet (so I've heard).
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Rectal, the Packers 10-6? Armed with Brett "I don't like to get hit so I force balls" Favre and who else? Donald Driver? Easily the worst division in football this year, I don't think any team there will win 10 games, but if one does it will be the Bears or the Vikings.
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AFC East
New England 10-6
Miami 10-6
NY Jets 7-9
Buffalo 6-10

AFC North
Pittsburgh 11-5
Cincinnatti 10-6
Baltimore 7-9
Cleveland 5-11

AFC South
Indianapolis 13-3
Jacksonville 9-7
Tennessee 6-10
Houston 4-12

AFC West
Denver 12-4
Kansas City 11-5
San Diego 9-7
Oakland 3-13

NFC East
NY Giants 11-5
Dallas 10-6
Philadelphia 9-7
Washington 6-10

NFC North
Green Bay 10-6
Chicago 8-8
Detroit 4-12
Minnesota 7-9

NFC South
Tampa Bay 10-6
Carolina 10-6
Atlanta 8-8
New Orleans 4-12

NFC West
Seattle 13-3
Arizona 9-7
St. Louis 6-10
San Francisco 4-12

Something like that, off the top of my head though.
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I've always thought Ward was like a cool guy or whatever - plus I like that the fact that lights dudes up while blocking but he came off as an asshole in SI article. He even bashed Bill Cower for "not giving him a chance as a Rookie" and how they keep drafting other wideouts. While some of this grips are legit, some of the shit he was saying was pretty stupid. I realize he had a rough life, I can only imagine being half Korean/half black must suck since it is nearly impossible to accepted anywhere but come on man let it go you are making millons of dollars to play fucking football.
Yeah, but you can't really hold it against him like Alphabean said. If you think about it he is basically doing the same thing the Patriots have done, even when they weren't underdogs anymore, they would basically take anyting negative said about them, or spin things so that they could play with a chip on their shoulder.
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Yeah, but you can't really hold it against him like Alphabean said. If you think about it he is basically doing the same thing the Patriots have done, even when they weren't underdogs anymore, they would basically take anyting negative said about them, or spin things so that they could play with a chip on their shoulder.
On the football field that's fine - The article was also about his upbringing too. I looked it over again today, and I could see Bean's points about SI bringing out the worst of people too tho, it probably isn't as bad as I thought it was when I first saw it.

While I think he should continue to have a chip on his shoulder in regards to football (shit the Steelers drafted ANOTHER WR this year) He shouldn't come out and pubicly bash the coach. Since you guys are bringing up the Patriot comparisons, when the last time you heard a memeber of the Patriots bash their coach?
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Did he say more than the fact that he was upset that he was benched right away? Because without reading the article it sounds like just an issue from before. But of course, Ward is still here and works his ass off for Cowher. So there might have been a problem years ago, but I wouldn't think it's still there today.

Also, Bill Belicheck is perfect in every way. The only thing anyone can ever fault him on, besides the Browns experiment, is his hoodie.
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He said he has nothing to say to Cowher for he did to him and that he does not have a warm relationship with his coach.

Cowher is quoted in the article saying he was only trying to add depth and he respects Ward's abilities.
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Rectal, the Packers 10-6? Armed with Brett "I don't like to get hit so I force balls" Favre and who else? Donald Driver? Easily the worst division in football this year, I don't think any team there will win 10 games, but if one does it will be the Bears or the Vikings.

Yah thats my sleeper pick. They were beat up last year man. Lost there starting reciever, top two Rb's on the depth chart. Farve had to make plays out of hardly nothing and was pretty well exposed. I think AJ Hawk will be defensive player of the year. They have a decent core at defense and like you said. That division is shit. So i say why not?
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Nah I was a firm believer that the only reason Favre played shitty was because he had fucking nobody around him. You couldn't plug anyone in there and do good with what he dealt with last year.

Who the fuck heard of Samkon Gado before last year? Lost a shitload of guys on the offensive side of the ball, can't blame Favre for the team doing shitty as a result. I don't even know where the shit came up about him retiring either, he still has a couple good years.


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Nah I was a firm believer that the only reason Favre played shitty was because he had fucking nobody around him. You couldn't plug anyone in there and do good with what he dealt with last year.

Who the fuck heard of Samkon Gado before last year? Lost a shitload of guys on the offensive side of the ball, can't blame Favre for the team doing shitty as a result. I don't even know where the shit came up about him retiring either, he still has a couple good years.

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Nah I was a firm believer that the only reason Favre played shitty was because he had fucking nobody around him. You couldn't plug anyone in there and do good with what he dealt with last year.

Who the fuck heard of Samkon Gado before last year? Lost a shitload of guys on the offensive side of the ball, can't blame Favre for the team doing shitty as a result. I don't even know where the shit came up about him retiring either, he still has a couple good years.
But who did they add that is going to win all those games for them? They didn't get Walker back and nobody in the draft is really going to save their offense.
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But who did they add that is going to win all those games for them? They didn't get Walker back and nobody in the draft is really going to save their offense.
Ahman Green isn't that bad, and Donald Driver isn't too bad either. They aren't superstars, they also have Bubba Franks. They have weapons, and Favre can still ball.
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Nah I was a firm believer that the only reason Favre played shitty was because he had fucking nobody around him. You couldn't plug anyone in there and do good with what he dealt with last year.

Who the fuck heard of Samkon Gado before last year? Lost a shitload of guys on the offensive side of the ball, can't blame Favre for the team doing shitty as a result. I don't even know where the shit came up about him retiring either, he still has a couple good years.
HE brought that shit up about him retiring... because he said they won't help him, and they HAVE NOT. Instead of drafting someone to win with, they drafted Favre's "heir," in Rodgers. Then they trade away their #2 receiver after getting rid of their #1 CB before last season. He wanted an improvement, and didn't get it.

I agree that they lost a lot. But don't absolve Favre for his indecision on whether he wanted to retire or not.

And Ahman Green is coming off what, a torn Quad or something? We'll see how he does. Dunno if he's going to be able to come back. He missed a few games, came back and left again. He might be done.
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I just noticed that the Vikings traded Hank Baskett for Billy McMullen. Baskett was a free agent out of New Mexico this year, but he seems like the kind of guy who could be good. Our school played New Mexico this year and he just tore us up. I'm pretty sure he has good size as well. McMullen is a former third round draft pick who did basically nothing in Philadelphia, but I am interested in seeing if Baskett pans out at all.

Why don't we just trade Charles Gordon
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