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Old 05-19-2006, 06:21 PM   #1
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Super Mario 2
Can't remember for the life of me the story behind why they turned Doki Doki Panic into Super Mario 2 in the states instead of giving the real SMB2 a run?

“There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.”

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Old 05-19-2006, 06:22 PM   #2
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That was intended to be a question. The phone rang and I got distracted.
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Old 05-19-2006, 06:29 PM   #3
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Wait, so what is the real SMB2? The Lost Levels?
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Old 05-19-2006, 06:31 PM   #4
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I've heard they pulled the original Mario 2, (which was released twice in the US, once in All Stars as The Lost Levels and once for the Gameboy re-release of Mario 1, although they were both cut down) because they thought it would be "too hard".

They called our Mario 2 "Super Mario USA" in Japan.
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Old 05-19-2006, 06:41 PM   #5
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So why not just tone down the difficulty factor and release it, instead of giving that shit job of DDP to us. Although I was too young to care at the time, I bet when it first came out a lot of people were very disappointed with hopes of a real SMB2
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Because it's quicker to change the graphics than to change the levels.
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Come on guys, Doki Doki Panic led to the greatest Mario characters ever: the shy guys.
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While I was playing the New Super Mario Brothers game for DS, I kept thinking that Fry Guy should have been a boss.

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Come on guys, Doki Doki Panic led to the greatest Mario characters ever: the shy guys.
On a Shy Guy note, everyone (should) know that Mario 2 was actually Mario's dream.

Go forward to Yoshi's Island, and the Shy Guy is basically the Goomba of Yoshi's Island (and 2). Since that was Mario's back/baby story, it explained why Mario dreamed about Shy Guys, thus allowing them to bring them into all Mario games.




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Come on guys, Doki Doki Panic led to the greatest Mario characters ever: the shy guys.
And the greatest debate ever--What the fuck is Birdo!



The game wasn't bad, it just wasn't the real sequel we expected.
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Birdo's Asexual.

It lays eggs, but looks more like a male. But also has a bow.

Maybe the entire species has gender issues.
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I've heard they pulled the original Mario 2, (which was released twice in the US, once in All Stars as The Lost Levels and once for the Gameboy re-release of Mario 1, although they were both cut down) because they thought it would be "too hard".

They called our Mario 2 "Super Mario USA" in Japan.
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Birdo's an asexual transgender.

It lays eggs asexually, looks like a dude, but wears a bow.
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I'll go ask Shannon that and get back to you.
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To clarify, yes, "The Lost Levels" was SMB2 in Japan, and SMB2 here was original Doki Doki Panic in Japan, our version being released as SMB USA
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So was Mario in this "Doki Doki Panic" thing? Or was it totally different and he/the others were just placed in it for the US?

Oh, and Mouser = ratings
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Or was it totally different and he/the others were just placed in it for the US?
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Old 05-21-2006, 10:24 AM   #19
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So was Mario in this "Doki Doki Panic" thing? Or was it totally different and he/the others were just placed in it for the US?

Oh, and Mouser = ratings
They created the Mario version by changing the original characters.
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They also changed around some of the other graphics.

Was Doki Doki Panic ever released in Japan?

I think I heard something about it really being a promotion for a movie or something...
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Well ya, I was just saying it didn't have Mario in it (as per the question). It wasn't a Mario game, they just changed it into one by making the main character Mario. Etc.

DDP was released in Japan, yes. I don't know how well received tho.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doki_Doki_Panic

They should have changed it to Doki Doki AYALLAYALAAA!

It would have been a smash it!
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doki_Doki_Panic

They should have changed it to Doki Doki AYALLAYALAAA!

It would have been a smash it!
Yeah, and when they ported it to the US, the main character could insist "I am an Itallian American." and rant about how he is judged on his looks and not his jumping ability.
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On a Shy Guy note, everyone (should) know that Mario 2 was actually Mario's dream.

Go forward to Yoshi's Island, and the Shy Guy is basically the Goomba of Yoshi's Island (and 2). Since that was Mario's back/baby story, it explained why Mario dreamed about Shy Guys, thus allowing them to bring them into all Mario games.




(Scary that I know things like that, isn't it?)
Lol mate I think you have just surpassed Kalayx as the nerdiest guy here
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Lol mate I think you have just surpassed Kalayx as the nerdiest guy here
I've table-topped in the past, so yeah, I'm a huge nerd.
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I've table-topped in the past, so yeah, I'm a huge nerd.
Pffft. I've GMéd. Still nowhere near Kalyx's "let's live life as though it were a comic book" level of fanboydomism.
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