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Old 07-06-2006, 08:14 PM   #1
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Captain Jack and Morgan set sail
Midnight shows across the country this evening. Anyone going?
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Old 07-06-2006, 09:47 PM   #2
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I'm going to a 1am showing that is employee/invite only, because I do a 1am show of every movie that comes out that looks halfway interesting. We aren't doing a 12am show though, because we hate our customers.
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Old 07-06-2006, 10:44 PM   #3
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I'm going to a 1am showing that is employee/invite only, because I do a 1am show of every movie that comes out that looks halfway interesting. We aren't doing a 12am show though, because we hate our customers.
I would too, if I lived there as well.

Then again Muncie isn't much better.
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Old 07-07-2006, 02:03 AM   #4
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Old 07-07-2006, 03:50 AM   #5
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I saw it. Thought it was great, and better than the first. Depp is awesome again. And Davy Jones is badass.

The 2 1/2 hour runtime flew by, whereas I felt the first one dragged a bit throughout.

Whole audience clapped during Jack's first appearance, and at the very end...

It's got plenty of action and comedy, and I'd say it's slightly darker in tone than the first.

Can't wait for 3. Good times.
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Old 07-07-2006, 04:50 AM   #6
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This movie was a huge disappointment. It felt like it had no clue where it wanted to go.

It starts plot elements, finds somewhere else it wants to go, then drops those plot elements like nothing.

It seems like when the writers ran into a problem, they'd just have an action scene and hope everyone forgot about the story issues by the time the action was over.

In the first half, most of Jack Sparrow feels like it's trying to rehash the previous film. Until the second act, it feels like Depp's performance is forced. But when he picks up the pieces, the rest of the film falls apart.

It also doesn't feel like it had much forward movement. Knowing what happens to the contents of the chest at the end, there were quite a few moments where it could have feasibly ended. But it dragged out forever.

There are a few good parts, and I'm kind of curious as to how the third movie will manage to salvage what a mess this one was.
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Old 07-07-2006, 05:25 AM   #7
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I thought it was great.


I wish the Transformers trailer showed more
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Old 07-07-2006, 07:58 AM   #8
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Can't wait for 3. Good times.
Well with Keith Richards in it, it could be good, if he doesn't fall out of a tree again.
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Old 07-07-2006, 09:10 AM   #9
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But it dragged out forever.
That's what I hated about the first one, I kept asking myself "When the fuck is this going to be over?"

I'm not too overly thrilled about this movie especially with it being 2 and a half hours long, buuuuut I'm being dragged to go see it tomorrow night.
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Old 07-08-2006, 09:15 AM   #11
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I enjoyed it, but I went in with somewhat low expectations. Especially considering they could have taken a shit, smeared the paper with it, and still smashed the box office if Johnny Depp said "Pirate" once or twice.

I now know what it's like to go to a TNA showing. The people in the theater cheered EVERYTHING. The only way thet could be more TNA-Like is if They actually chanted "We want plot holes!"*clap clap clap* Fucking stupid.

But really, who expected fantastic cinema out of this?
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Old 07-08-2006, 12:10 PM   #12
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This movie was a huge disappointment. It felt like it had no clue where it wanted to go.

It starts plot elements, finds somewhere else it wants to go, then drops those plot elements like nothing.

It seems like when the writers ran into a problem, they'd just have an action scene and hope everyone forgot about the story issues by the time the action was over.

In the first half, most of Jack Sparrow feels like it's trying to rehash the previous film. Until the second act, it feels like Depp's performance is forced. But when he picks up the pieces, the rest of the film falls apart.

It also doesn't feel like it had much forward movement. Knowing what happens to the contents of the chest at the end, there were quite a few moments where it could have feasibly ended. But it dragged out forever.

There are a few good parts, and I'm kind of curious as to how the third movie will manage to salvage what a mess this one was.
Wow man, it's a fuckin Disney movie chill the fuck out.

Yeah I thought the movie was pretty sick, but I didn't go in expecting a masterpiece. I was just a fun movie, with a whole bunch of action and comedy, and a bit of a darker tone. Christ, how could you not like a triple threat sword fight?
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Old 07-08-2006, 12:38 PM   #13
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I loved the movie. Didn't even see the 1st one, but this one had my attention all the way. The flow was great. The music really made a lot of scenes for me. Loved when Jack came back at the end and took the rifle and shot the monster. I need to watch the 1st one I guess.
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Old 07-08-2006, 01:23 PM   #14
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Wow man, it's a fuckin Disney movie chill the fuck out.

Yeah I thought the movie was pretty sick, but I didn't go in expecting a masterpiece. I was just a fun movie, with a whole bunch of action and comedy, and a bit of a darker tone. Christ, how could you not like a triple threat sword fight?
Especially the whole wheel bit.
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Old 07-08-2006, 01:35 PM   #15
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This movie was just about perfect for what it was. It's an action movie, so it doesn't bother me that some of the characters were underdeveloped. They took what was great about the first movie (the action sequences, the score, the sight gags (including Disney in-jokes), and the comic relief) and gave us more.

I know people are going to complain about the ending but it was the absolute perfect way to build to the third movie, and I busted out laughing when the credits started.
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It made 55 mill on Friday, biggest opening ever (for a Friday, Spidey still holds the Wed record) and looks to be on the way of breaking Spider-Man's 3 day record.
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Wow man, it's a fuckin Disney movie chill the fuck out.

Yeah I thought the movie was pretty sick, but I didn't go in expecting a masterpiece. I was just a fun movie, with a whole bunch of action and comedy, and a bit of a darker tone. Christ, how could you not like a triple threat sword fight?
I'd give a PG or G rated Disney movie a break. This is a PG-13 Disney movie being marketed to all ages. So, I'm treating it like I would treat any other adult movie.

I did really like a lot of the action scenes that didn't involve the Kraken. But the plot was icky.
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It was just pure fun and quite frankly that`s all it needed to be.

It`s Pg-13 in the states hmm, it`s PG here in Canada ah well.

Depp was hillarious

The plot was pretty simple,

Jack runs from Davey, avoids open water as much as possible thus why he ends up on random pieces of land like that crazy island in the beginning.
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The ending kind of annoyed me though.
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If you didn't like it, you are being too hard on it. It was really done well. It has left lots of questions for the next movie. For me, it delivered.
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The ending kind of annoyed me though.
Yeah well at least they didn't do it Matrix Reloaded style.
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Old 07-08-2006, 09:27 PM   #23
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How did reloaded end? I don't remember that movie very well.
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How did reloaded end? I don't remember that movie very well.
Neo and that bald guy get hauled into a ship on gurneys, both unconscious, to be concluded comes up on the screen
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Yeah. Craptacular. I remember seeing that for FREE and wanting my money back. And wanting to soccer riot.
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The ending was great! You knew it would get left open ended for the worlds end. But holy fuck did I not see that coming, i was just thinking who the hell could that be, them BAM! Quality!

Oh and did anyone else stay onto the end of the credits? Man i was dissapointed!
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Why? What was at the end of the credits?
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Old 07-11-2006, 03:00 AM   #28
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Why? What was at the end of the credits?
Fuck nothing worth a damn, a slight gag with the dog and the cannibals.
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Old 07-11-2006, 03:32 AM   #29
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Yeah the cannibals made the dog their chief. Nothing major.

Personally, I loved the movie. There were only two things I had issue with, and one of them I dealt with later. The only major plot point that felt weak to me was (spoilers):

The fact that those two pirates from the first one - the bald guy and the wooden-eye guy - were treated with a total level of friendly indifference by the protagonists. It was like Elizabeth had forgotten they'd kidnapped her, Jack had forgotten they'd tried to shoot him, and Will had forgotten they were ultimately involved in the "death" of his father.

Other than that though, a totally enjoyable sequel. I enjoyed it just as much - if not more - than the first. Davy Jones was awesome, his crew was awesome, Norrington was way more interesting, Jack was fantastic (not that I expected anything else), and even Will seemed a little less wooden and cardboard. I love the mutual homages between Pirates and the Monkey Island franchise, too.

CoE - what particular things about the plot do you feel were abandoned/covered up with large action scenes?
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Old 07-11-2006, 05:15 AM   #30
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I didn't really like the first one, so i'll wait for a decent torrent and then pass my judgement.
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Why was the cursed monkey from the first film still immortal?
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I image the monkey has a lot to do with the resurrection of the mutineer Capt. that appeared at the end of the movie. (forget his name)
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I thought they explained that at the end of the first one, but I don't remember.
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Alright. I just got back from, and I've got to say, Gore Verbinski really outdid himself in this movie. Here are my thoughts including spoilers. (Highlight)

-Johnny Depp was awesome yet again. The one liners and fight scenes were well played out

-Davey Jones and Crew were done pretty good. Nice to see Bootstrap Bill make an appearance and play a fair share in the plot

-The first thing that popped in my head when I saw the Flying Dutchman come out of the water was "what a ripoff of Harry Potter"

-The ending blew me away. Couldn't believe Captain Barbosa (Geoffrey Rush) is coming back to salvage the Black Pearl and find Captain Jack.

-Keira Knightley. Hot indeed! I was hoping Orlando Bloom would scream "SHUT UP HONEY!" during that 3 way fight seen on the beach.

Trailerwise, I saw the Transformers trailer and I was marking out. What stunned me was that Michael Bay took over director's spot from Steven Speilberg.

Final Grade: A-
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I saw this last night, and all I can say is what a mis-mashed, overly contrived, overly complicated and overly long piece of crap.


There is really no continuity to the story. It's just people zooming off all over the fucking island to find the little pieces of the puzzle, and getting in shit with each other throughout. But there's not really any coherency to the story, nor is there really any logic from one point to the next. First Jack is on the ship with his old crew, then he's with the cannibals, then he's with Davey Jones' crew, then he's back with Kiera and Orlando. It's such a schizophrenic picture that really does only rely on action sequences to keep people tuned in.

Everyone I went with hated it. The witty banter and much more interesting plot line of the first film is gone, while the horrible length and Gore Verbinski's seeming unwillingness to end the film before movie-goers have fallen asleep is intact.

I had similar feelings toward The Matrix Reloaded when I first saw it (thought it was trash except for the cool actions sequences), but after seeing Revolutions and putting the whole story together, it's really not a bad picture.

Hopefully when the final act of the trilogy comes out next summer this big, expensive piece of crap will be slightly more enjoyable. But I doubt it.
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There is really no continuity to the story. It's just people zooming off all over the fucking island to find the little pieces of the puzzle, and getting in shit with each other throughout. But there's not really any coherency to the story, nor is there really any logic from one point to the next. First Jack is on the ship with his old crew, then he's with the cannibals, then he's with Davey Jones' crew, then he's back with Kiera and Orlando. It's such a schizophrenic picture that really does only rely on action sequences to keep people tuned in.
I'm not terribly sure what was so hard to understand that plot cohesion seemed to go out the window. This movie was rather shallow, and I'm not sure how you could have been confused as to why Sparrow was with the cannibals or any of the other stuff you mentioned. This was a very straightforward movie, and it really shouldn't be this confusing to you.
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-The first thing that popped in my head when I saw the Flying Dutchman come out of the water was "what a ripoff of Harry Potter"
With regards to this, it's a pretty old depiction of it. Given how derivative the Potter books are, I'd say ya dun gut it backwards.
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I saw this last night, and all I can say is what a mis-mashed, overly contrived, overly complicated and overly long piece of crap.


There is really no continuity to the story. It's just people zooming off all over the fucking island to find the little pieces of the puzzle, and getting in shit with each other throughout. But there's not really any coherency to the story, nor is there really any logic from one point to the next. First Jack is on the ship with his old crew, then he's with the cannibals, then he's with Davey Jones' crew, then he's back with Kiera and Orlando. It's such a schizophrenic picture that really does only rely on action sequences to keep people tuned in.
SPOILERS IN CASE ANYONE DIDNT SEE IT...

Hmm...I didnt think it was that hard to follow...

Jack is on boat with crew, gets warned about Davey...

Jack tries to avoid open water and either runs aground on cannibal island or docks there purposely because of one reason or another.

Jack escapes, makes a play to find the dead mans chest

Tortuga being the logical place for pirates to be found runs into Norrington and Elizabeth, etc. etc.

Its really pretty simple

I gave this movie a B+/A- part of me wishes it was its own self contained story...but overall I was very entertained and pleased with how it came out
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Yeah honestly, don't know why so many people are claiming the story was hard to follow. It is not like there were multiple subplots running all over the place. It was pretty damn straightforward.
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SPOILERS IN CASE ANYONE DIDNT SEE IT...

Hmm...I didnt think it was that hard to follow...

Jack is on boat with crew, gets warned about Davey...

Jack tries to avoid open water and either runs aground on cannibal island or docks there purposely because of one reason or another.

Jack escapes, makes a play to find the dead mans chest

Tortuga being the logical place for pirates to be found runs into Norrington and Elizabeth, etc. etc.

Its really pretty simple

I gave this movie a B+/A- part of me wishes it was its own self contained story...but overall I was very entertained and pleased with how it came out
Yeah, the shit was incredibly by the numbers and explained exactly where they were going at every step.

I'm seriously wondering how dense people have to be to not figure out why things are happening the way they are in like 99% of the cases you could mention. There were a couple that seemed like they were questionable (I don't think I caught why Will thought it was smart to join up with Jones, no matter how dire things were, and what's with Sparrow pretending not to be into guys?), but really, easy as fuck to follow.
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