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Old 08-04-2006, 11:17 PM   #1
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Official Ring of Honor discussion thread (A few random pics from the doubleshot.)
So, besides Innovator, who else here is actually a regular fan of ROH, and follows the product? Just wondering if there were any others.

So Inno, who do you think Dragon will drop the strap to? My top 3 picks at the moment are KENTA, Cabana, or Homicide. I don't think Joe will get the belt, especially with him on the verge of carrying the NWA title in TNA. Should still be an awesome match though.

I think Aries/Strong losing to the Briscoes will be too obvious if it happens. I would like to see Hero back, and see the Kings of Wrestling win the straps. Either that, or maybe Cabana & Homicide could form an odd couple team and win the straps. They have respect for each other now, and agree to watch each others' backs.

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Old 08-04-2006, 11:20 PM   #2
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I can't imagine Dragon dropping it to KENTA, unless KENTA drops it right away to someone else. They way KENTA has been built, he has to lose to either Dragon or Joe.

I see either Homicide winning it, or Cabana winning it to drop it to Homicide.

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Also... Delirious for Pure Champion
Why stop at Pure Champion? Why not ROH World Champion?
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I know KENTA sounds like an odd choice, but he's competing so much in ROH now, that I could see him get a brief run. It would get loads of coverage over in Japan, and he already has a decent set of challengers (rematch with Dragon, Joe, rematch with Aries & Strong).
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Ring of Honor
August 4, 2006
Lake Grove, NY

Live Results & Discussion. Results will be updated in the first post here, and you can post your discussion in this thread. Hopefully the connection stays strong during the event.

- Ring of Honor returns to Lake Grove (Long Island), New York, on Friday, November 24. The 24th is the day after Thanksgiving, known as Black Friday, and...it's my birthday.

1) Shane Hagadorn retains the Top Of The Class Trophy.

2) Bryan Danielson defeats Jack Evans via submission. Post match, KENTA runs in but gets jumped by the Briscoe brothers. Davey makes the save. He promised a beatdown of the Briscoes later in the night.

3) Christopher Daniels & Matt Sydal defeat Irish Airborne. Sydal hit a standing moonsault, followed immediately by Daniels hitting the Best Moonsault Ever for the pinfall.

4) Colt Cabana defeats Claudio Castagnoli via rollup. The ending was the same ending of Cabana-Punk from P:TFC.

5) ROH World Tag Team Championships - Ultimate Endurance. Austin Aries & Roderick Strong vs Homicide & Ricky Reyes vs Adam Pearce & BJ Whitmer vs Jimmy Rave & Sal Rinauro

- The Embassy of Jimmy Rave & Sal Rinauro have been eliminated first.
- Adam Pearce & BJ Whitmer are disqualified, eliminated.
- Austin Aries & Roderick Strong defeat Homicide & Ricky Reyes to retain the ROH World Tag Team Championships.

- Steve Corino returned to ROH and attacked Homicide, so thus begins the build to the next Homicide vs Corino war!

INTERMISSION

Steve Corino and Homicide continued the brawl as the show comes back. Adam Pearce attacked Homicide. Corino and Pearce were brawling with Homicide when BJ Whitmer ran in...to aid Homicide!

6) ROH Pure Wrestling Championship: Nigel McGuinness defeats Delirious.

7) Jay & Mark Briscoe defeat KENTA & Davey Richards after a Spike Jay Driller on Davey Richards.

8) ROH World Champion Samoa Joe defeats AJ Styles after a Saito Suplex. For some reason, Bryan Danielson still held the ROH World Championship belt. Apparently he is shining it up for Joe for an extra $25.


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Ring of Honor: Fight of the Century
Saturday, August 5, 2006
Edison, New Jersey

ROH returns to Edison, New Jersey, on Saturday, November 25.

Pre-Show Results:

1) Derrick Dempsey defeats Pelle Primeau via submission. Dempsey gets the win with the Orange County Stretch.

"Fight Of The Century" Results:

2) Colt Cabana defeats Sal Rinauro via submission.

3) Top Of The Class Trophy: Shane Hagadorn defeats Bobby Dempsey via submission. Hagadorn wins "in 3 seconds", after an immediate brass knuckle shot and crossface submission.

- Adam Pearce called out BJ Whitmer. From behind, Steve Corino attacked BJ Whitmer.

4) Nigel McGuinness wins Four Corner Survival. Nigel pins Claudio Castagnoli after a lariat in a match also featuring Jay Lethal and Christopher Daniels.

Gotten word that the fans have been chanting "Change the Channel" during a Hagadorn promo.

5) ROH World Tag Team Championships - Ultimate Endurance - Austin Aries & Roderick Strong defeat Matt Sydal & Jack Evans
- Irish Airborne eliminates Jay & Mark Briscoe!
- Roderick Strong eliminates Dave & Jake Crist when Dave taps to the stronghold.
- Austin Aries pins Matt Sydal after a 450 Splash to retain the titles.

- Post match, Austin Aries wondered what happened to the stolen tag team championships. The former Generation Next teammates all shook hands after the match.

INTERMISSION

- Adam Pearce & Steve Corino in the ring. Steve Corino is ripping on fat people and then turns his attack on Green Lantern Fan's father.

6) BJ Whitmer & Homicide defeat Steve Corino & Adam Pearce via disqualification. The Briscoe brothers attacked Homicide and destroyed his arm, this causing a DQ finish.

7) KENTA defeats Davey Richards in the upset of the decade! Davey Richards kicked out of the busaiku knee kick before finally dropping to the Go 2 Sleep.

No sign of 'Europe'. "The atmosphere is intense."

8) ROH World Championship: Samoa Joe vs Bryan Danielson ends in a Time Limit Draw. "MOTYC" (Note: We've heard that enough). Joe and Dragon go 60 minutes. Afterwards, they teased giving the fans 5 more minutes, but Danielson refused. KENTA came out to confront Dragon, but the Briscoes attacked. Homicide and Samoa Joe made the save.

On September 16 in New York City, the following tag team match will happen:

Samoa Joe & Homicide vs Jay Briscoe & Mark Briscoe
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Old 08-06-2006, 01:24 AM   #7
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Anywho... I don't have a problem with KENTA being the champ. My problem comes from the fact that Danielson has to have ATLEAST 1 pinfall/submission victory over KENTA to save face.

Maybe have Danielson drop it to Homicide, Homicide drop it to KENTA after Corino interferes (extending that feud, and screwing Homicide over without having him look weak) And then down thel ine, after various defenses, maybe have an elimination three way where KENTA is eliminated by Dragon, and then Homicide eliminates Dragon. Then everyone looks golden, and Homicide gets his reign
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Old 08-06-2006, 01:29 AM   #8
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Ya I would have to go with thinking it will be Homicide. I'm actually pumped for Aries' next title shot mind you, especially if it's Aries vs Danielson. They usually put on good stuff and they've both come on a lot in the past year or so.
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8) ROH World Champion Samoa Joe defeats AJ Styles after a Saito Suplex. For some reason, Bryan Danielson still held the ROH World Championship belt. Apparently he is shining it up for Joe for an extra $25.
Doesn't that mean that Danielson ISN'T the RoH Champ. Now you people are saying he's going to drop it to Homicide. If I'm not mistaken it's a lil bit to late for that.
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Old 08-06-2006, 11:06 AM   #12
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The guy who posted those results on the RoH board is a douche, he's been banging on for ages about how Joe was going to win, and he put stupid snarky stuff like that in. He always puts that Low Ki has returned, stupid shit like that.

Danielson is still the champion.
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I've just recently really been getting into ROH. I have a few DVDs and am going to my second show on the 26th. ROH is the best thing going on in wrestling right now, hands down.

As far as the World Title is concerned, I have a feeling that Danielson's going to drop it to Homicide. I would love to see him lose the 2 out of 3 falls match against Cabana, but I just don't see it happening. Homicide is on fire right now, and not giving him the strap would be a terrible idea.
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Old 08-06-2006, 08:39 PM   #15
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Apparently Davey Richards is the man to watch... I'm not totally sold on him yet, but I've only seen him once...
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Maybe Corino'll win the title and drop it to Homicide.

That'd be nice.
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Old 08-07-2006, 04:55 AM   #17
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Don't know if anyone has seen this but this Saturday in Liverpool for Danielson vs McGuinness is a unification match (yes Gabe himself called it that)...I can't be bothered to track down the post but basically both titles are on the line, using pure rules, but this time the World belt can change hands on a countout or DQ. Also if there is a double DQ or countout the match will be restarted.

GUARANTEED TITLE CHANGE
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I read that, just didn't get around to posting it here. I'm in the boat of thinking it may end in a double pin. I really can't imagine ROH dropping the Pure Title.... who knows though.

Anywho.... We should just make an official ROH thread... or rename this one.
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There should be more news on rohvideos.com sometime this week. I think Dragon will win. I can't imagine Nigel becoming ROH champ. Here is the exact news, from Gabe himself at the roh boards:



I wanted to post this before tomorrow's newswire comes out since ROH will never be the same after this Saturday's event in Liverpool.

The main event of ROH's debut in the UK on Saturday in Liverpool will see the World and Pure Title unified. There is a press conference in the next ROH Video Recap that will name the rules. Here is a preview:

-The bout will feature ROH World Champion Bryan Danielson vs. ROH Pure Champion Nigel McGuinness.

-The match will be contested under Pure Title rules so the rope breaks will be in effect and the Pure Title can change hands on DQ and countout, but the World Title can also change hands on a DQ or Countout.

-There will be no time limit.

-In the event of a double DQ or double countout, the match will be restarted.

ROH will never be the same after Liverpool. The first title change of 2006 is GUARANTEED to take place on this event.

Liverpool could see the largest crowd in ROH history. There are still tickets available. Check the main page of ROHwrestling.com for details. Be part of history!!!
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ROH quite simply is the shit.

Although Cabana deserves a title run more than anyone else on the roster, he doesn't need it.

When Joe first got the title it was out of no where and it elevated joe, the way that a title is meant to, the same way it did with Aries, since then the guys who have had the title were either done for shock value as you really didn't expect them to get it as they were leaving (CM Punk and Noble) or Dragon, I really think they only gave it to Dragon at that time was a thank you run as well as a 'We don't have anyone else' style run.

Personally I find Dragon boring and very overatted, but that's just me, Homocide IMO is deserving of the title and with his current feud with Cornette over Low Ki I think it would be a good time to give him a run with it.

Or go completely out of left field and give the title to Chris Hero, now that would be good business
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Honestly, I didn't see what the big deal was about Dragon, and I still think he's overrated, but now I love the guy. I just like the style I guess. His match in Detroit with Jimmy Jacobs and BJ Whitmer was damn good.

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PUSH JIMMY JACOBS TO THE FUCKING MOON!
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Old 08-07-2006, 11:48 AM   #23
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I really hope that they don't get rid of the Pure title. I've been enjoying Nigel as champ, and I'm always drawn to Pure Title matches for some reason.
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Dragon is a great talent, and I love his work alot, but I guess he isn't for everybody. He doesn't have much of a look, but he does have a good character, and he really knows how to work a match. He's good at telling stories in his matches, and really involving the crowd. The first time I seen him, I thought to myself, "this guy should be delivering my milk". But he's contagious. The more you watch his work, you realize he is potentially a diamond in the rough. For him to be as young as he is, he really knows his way around the ring. He could truly be one of the great in ring workers of this generation before all is said and done.
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The first time I seen him, I thought to myself, "this guy should be delivering my milk". But he's contagious. The more you watch his work, you realize he is potentially a diamond in the rough. For him to be as young as he is, he really knows his way around the ring. He could truly be one of the great in ring workers of this generation before all is said and done.
You just summed up my thoughts on him exactly. He's so damn charasmatic in the ring, but not in the normal way either. He's not like HBK, or Eddie G, or Chris Jericho, but there's something about him in the ring that sucks you in.

One of my favorite moments was when he teamed with Delerious Vs the Embassy, and Delirious did an airplane spin... Dragon looked at him when he was done and screamed.. "That's not how you do an airplane spin." And then he picked up Rave, and spun him around like 50 some times with Delirious running around them. Afterwards, he shouted. "Now THAT'S how you do an airplane spin."

Also, he's pretty funny. I love on his Myspace, in his blog, where he comments about his new shirt. "If you like maroon shirts that have someone elses name on it, and a man on the back wearing spandex shorts... this may be the shirt for you."
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Old 08-07-2006, 02:49 PM   #26
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My favorite matches of his this year are the tag with Lethal vs. Aries & Strong, and the McGuinness/Dragon match from WOC. His 2nd match with Delirious was also really good.
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Old 08-07-2006, 08:48 PM   #27
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Davey Richards.

PWG >>>>> ROH and he'll prove it when he pins Danielson. Nah j/k, but Davey Richards'll win it.
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Hope Nigel wins.
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Gabe added today that a double pin will result in a restart, and there will definitely only be one belt left afterwards.

Almost tempted to get up to Liverpool and get a GA ticket
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I want to go to the show, but there's no way for me to do so - bummer.
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Old 08-08-2006, 09:52 AM   #31
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I've been offered freebie tickets plus access to the VIP party.

Which make me a hypocrite, but free is alot better than £50.

But I can't afford the travel
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That really sucks that ya can't go Dave.

These free tickets don't have anything to do with Colt Cabana do they?
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Old 08-09-2006, 01:43 AM   #33
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So yeah, how about that Jimmy Jacobs?
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Old 08-09-2006, 01:53 AM   #34
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Jacobs needs a good storyline to sink his teeth into. This whole Lacey thing is gonna get old fast.
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Old 08-09-2006, 02:06 AM   #35
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Nigel is the fucking man. Saw him live and he was awesome both on the mic, and in the ring.
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Dunno, if Lacey dumps him for someone else and he goes emo-insane it could work ok
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I mean, it could be funny if he gets even crazier with his obsession. Jacobs is definately proving himself this year. How about that bumb against BJ Whitmer at Dragon Gate Challenge? It's a miracle he didn't break his neck.

I also hope Claudio goes places. He is all kinds of awesome. Claudio ought to somehow get Hero signed, and the Kings of Wrestling should defeat Aries & Strong. Now there is a team that could create a big buzz in the tag ranks. Aries & Strong have done a great job of elevating the straps, but Hero & Claudio are heat machines, and could put lots of asses in the seats.

As far as Davey Richards goes, I was thinking about him possibly being the guy to dethrone Dragon. Gabe seems really high on his work, and he seems to be good from my vantage point. I haven't seen hardly any of his PWG work, and I've only seen his first match with Rave in ROH. The jury is still out with me on this guy. He was impressive, but I'm not completely sold on him yet. I'd much rather see KENTA get a brief Gibson-like reign. He's a great talent, and they could promote some major matches with him as champ.
KENTA vs. Joe for the ROH Title =

So who is everybody's top 5 fav in ROH at the moment. Mine are as follows:

1. American Dragon
2. Austin Aries
3. Claudio Castagnoli
4. Colt Cabana
5. Samoa Joe


Go Dragon!!
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Hmm... well, in no particular order.
  1. Austin Aries
  2. Samoa Joe
  3. Colt Cabana
  4. Delirious
  5. Jim Cornette (if he doesn't count because he's not a wrestler, then Bryan Danielson)
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That really sucks that ya can't go Dave.

These free tickets don't have anything to do with Colt Cabana do they?
Nah, i'm mates with a wrestling film crew via a promoter, who offered me the ride.

Although I'm sure Colt would remember me after our tremendous battle royal
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