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Old 09-09-2006, 02:44 PM   #41
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First, no, he won't be useful.

Second, WWE pushing anyone right? You know better
Waltman will be useful for the current angle if used right. He may not be that good at this point but he could be useful and I can only hope they've learned from misusing Kanyon.
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Old 09-09-2006, 02:47 PM   #42
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Waltman will be useful for the current angle if used right. He may not be that good at this point but he could be useful and I can only hope they've learned from misusing Kanyon.
You say "if used right", so even you're doubting the WWE's writing.

Let's face it, the WWE has lost the art of booking anything lower than a main event, and that's starting to dwindle now too.
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Old 09-09-2006, 02:49 PM   #43
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Actually, DX sold the merch. Not just little 123. Without the Outlaws to back him up, Waltman sucked.
Can you prove that? No? Didn't think so. He was over, yes because of the DX rub, but you still have to have a face for the people to cheer for and X-pac gave them what they wanted, Bronco-busterd and cheap one liners. And the people ate it up. The Kane/X-pac angle was hugely over, and Kane didn't do it on his own. The IWC hates X-pac, I understand that, but not admitting that he was a draw is being in denial.
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Old 09-09-2006, 02:55 PM   #44
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You say "if used right", so even you're doubting the WWE's writing.

Let's face it, the WWE has lost the art of booking anything lower than a main event, and that's starting to dwindle now too.
Yes, I know but if they plan to use Kanyon in such a high profile angle with DX, it sounds like a good push though They'd probably job him out after that.
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Old 09-09-2006, 03:05 PM   #45
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Hey canadian crippla, your rep turned green!!!

anyway, I think X-pac will be used briefly and then dumped when the DX angle (whatever it is) is done. I just don't see him being in the WWE longterm.

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Old 09-09-2006, 03:29 PM   #46
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I called X Pac coming back a while ago.
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Old 09-09-2006, 03:42 PM   #47
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X-pac could be a fina addition to the roster. D-X needs someone who can get his ass-whipped so that the ME can come and save the day.

As for Kayon, I dunno. Never been hugely over aside from teaming with DDP and he wont have him here. Can't really see anything coming of this.
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Old 09-09-2006, 04:03 PM   #48
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Can you prove that? No? Didn't think so. He was over, yes because of the DX rub, but you still have to have a face for the people to cheer for and X-pac gave them what they wanted, Bronco-busterd and cheap one liners. And the people ate it up. The Kane/X-pac angle was hugely over, and Kane didn't do it on his own. The IWC hates X-pac, I understand that, but not admitting that he was a draw is being in denial.
Cheer? He invented the term X-Pac heat. Did you even watch wrestling before 2001?
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X-Pac was getting HUGE face pops 98-2000
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Huge compared to everyone else back then? Didn't think so.
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Old 09-09-2006, 04:08 PM   #51
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Huge compared to everyone else back then? Didn't think so.
Huge compared to all the midcarders he was running against? Hell yes. EASY. He was over. Him later becoming the master of dead-heat can't stop the fact he was over.

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Old 09-09-2006, 04:18 PM   #53
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Old 09-09-2006, 04:21 PM   #54
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X-Pac had some pretty entertaining matches, the one for me being a cage match against Jericho which brought out the best in both men. However, now he's just another washed-up wrestler who they'll bring back for three weeks of kicks before dumping again.
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Old 09-09-2006, 04:21 PM   #55
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X-Pac was a very god Euro Champ, his run with Kane was awesome, and like it or not he was over if for no other reason then JR somehow convinced the WWF marks that it was Waltman who brought light quick and quazi high flying style to America.

Personally I am a fan of Pac, but I will admit that he is not a draw. He hasn't been for years. While he was a solid Euro Champ, he wasn't moving merch, and no one really gives a shit about him. His reactions from 98 era were more based off the fact that ppretty much ANYONE got some kind of response. The entire industry was over. Hell you could be talking about how over Taka was...infact I would wager Taka was more over then Pac...
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Old 09-09-2006, 04:24 PM   #56
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X-pac was my fav DX member, if he was back on TV he would draw me to watch TV
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Old 09-09-2006, 04:31 PM   #57
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X-Pac was a very god Euro Champ, his run with Kane was awesome, and like it or not he was over if for no other reason then JR somehow convinced the WWF marks that it was Waltman who brought light quick and quazi high flying style to America.

Personally I am a fan of Pac, but I will admit that he is not a draw. He hasn't been for years. While he was a solid Euro Champ, he wasn't moving merch, and no one really gives a shit about him. His reactions from 98 era were more based off the fact that ppretty much ANYONE got some kind of response. The entire industry was over. Hell you could be talking about how over Taka was...infact I would wager Taka was more over then Pac...
Until he joined Kaientai.
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Old 09-09-2006, 04:32 PM   #58
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Initially....though once the group fell apart to be only him and Funaki and they did the "INDEED" thing...that got them over again...
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Old 09-09-2006, 04:37 PM   #60
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Old 09-09-2006, 04:39 PM   #62
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I love the way you guys turn on a dime.. First with cena..all I heard was how crap he was..then somone posted :"its not cool to bash Cena anymore" and the ass kissing ensued.

It is a "time honoured tradition" to make fun of X-pac...then one guy then says "nah..he wasn't so bad"..and the next thing you know closet X-pac fans are brave enough to peer out the doorway and voice their faggy opnions!
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Old 09-09-2006, 04:42 PM   #63
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I'm not a closet X-Pac fan, I'll be the first one to admit I like X-Pac. He may not be as good as he once was but he still helped the company out.
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He runs his own fed in Japan now
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Old 09-09-2006, 04:43 PM   #65
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Don't get me wrong X-pac post 2001 was trash, but beofre that he was HUGELY OVER.
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I have always stuck up for Pac as a personal fan, but that don't change the fact I am one of the like the only 3 dimes he draws.

And Cena is still fucking annoying.

CENA BASHING IS STILL REAL TO ME DAMMIT!
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Cheer? He invented the term X-Pac heat. Did you even watch wrestling before 2001?
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I know but i never got details on when exactly and how he departed from WWE. Does anyone know?
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this sounds like one hell of a houseshow i heard vince wanted to bring back wcw and who better then kanyon to do i.
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Old 09-09-2006, 06:27 PM   #70
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Old 09-09-2006, 06:31 PM   #71
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Old 09-10-2006, 12:32 AM   #72
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I dunno if waltman had a contract, its not common for TNA to give them out
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Old 09-10-2006, 12:41 AM   #73
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this sounds like one hell of a houseshow i heard vince wanted to bring back wcw and who better then kanyon to do i.
Heard this from where?
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Old 09-10-2006, 03:32 AM   #74
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X-Pac was NEVER a "huge draw". He was a solid wrestler who was buddies with Triple H, thus got admitted to DX as a mid-carder. He was a recogniseable and frequent cog in the machine of Attitude-era WWE , but that is all. He then tried to revive his career in TNA, but when it became apparent that he was overachieving, he decided to get lazy and fail, again.

I want to say bringing X-Pac back would be a good thing. The guy is experienced, the fans know him, and he has proven he can still go. The guy is a douche, though. He gets lazy, or he gets bored, I can't tell which. Either way, he doesn't seem to ever build momentum for himself.

The guy will not add anything to the DX angle, either. He was always just a mid-carder. If you want someone to run in and make it mean something, it needs to be someone who can believeably kick ass. So the little guy's back? How does this hinder The McMahons in any way?

The only angle I would be remotely interesting in if X-Pac returns is if he brought back the Light Heavyweight Championship, and then Gregory Helms joined the nWo, leading to a unification feud between the two. Apart from that, keep Sean Waltman away from my TV. The guy is too unreliable to get me excited about anything.
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Old 09-10-2006, 04:07 AM   #75
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Who the hell was kanyon?
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Old 09-10-2006, 04:48 AM   #76
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Well... you know what they say Angle, google it. So am I correct in understanding that X-Pac was basically a lazy son of a bitch?
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Old 09-10-2006, 08:31 AM   #77
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I know but i never got details on when exactly and how he departed from WWE. Does anyone know?
He left on good terms. I imagine his contract expired and after seven plus years, felt he'd achieved all he could. He wasn't fired, if that's what you're getting at
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Old 09-10-2006, 08:44 AM   #78
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X-Pac was NEVER a "huge draw". He was a solid wrestler who was buddies with Triple H, thus got admitted to DX as a mid-carder. He was a recogniseable and frequent cog in the machine of Attitude-era WWE , but that is all. He then tried to revive his career in TNA, but when it became apparent that he was overachieving, he decided to get lazy and fail, again.

I want to say bringing X-Pac back would be a good thing. The guy is experienced, the fans know him, and he has proven he can still go. The guy is a douche, though. He gets lazy, or he gets bored, I can't tell which. Either way, he doesn't seem to ever build momentum for himself.

The guy will not add anything to the DX angle, either. He was always just a mid-carder. If you want someone to run in and make it mean something, it needs to be someone who can believeably kick ass. So the little guy's back? How does this hinder The McMahons in any way?

The only angle I would be remotely interesting in if X-Pac returns is if he brought back the Light Heavyweight Championship, and then Gregory Helms joined the nWo, leading to a unification feud between the two. Apart from that, keep Sean Waltman away from my TV. The guy is too unreliable to get me excited about anything.
This brings up something that if they do have a DX/nWo fued, they'll probably run an angle where they don't know whos side X-Pac is on since he was in both.
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The matches in put on in TNA back in 2005 was some great stuff. I've always been a mark for Sean Waltman though so I am quite biased.
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