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Old 09-24-2006, 11:04 PM   #441
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I saw that this morning on the ESPN pregame show..
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Old 09-24-2006, 11:15 PM   #442
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Not really, no.

I would say that teams like the Seahawks and Bears are as good as the Chargers and Colts. Also, the "mediocre" NFC teams look to be better than the mediocre AFC teams this year.

I know it's only week three, but I still see no indication of the AFC being the dominate conference this year. In fact, they might even be weaker than the NFC at this point.
The Bears beating up on their own terrible division is no indication that they are anywhere near the Colts' level of talent. The only reason the NFC mediocre teams look better than the AFC mediocre teams is because the mediocre NFC teams are fighting for playoff spots. I'd hardly say that makes the NFC a stronger conference.
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Let me be the first to say that the Rams are fucking terrible, but fucking lucky.
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Old 09-24-2006, 11:18 PM   #444
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The Bears beating up on their own terrible division is no indication that they are anywhere near the Colts' level of talent. The only reason the NFC mediocre teams look better than the AFC mediocre teams is because the mediocre NFC teams are fighting for playoff spots. I'd hardly say that makes the NFC a stronger conference.
IT IS WEEK 3.

By your logic, the only reason why the Bengals are undefeated is because they beat teams with losing records. Does that mean that the Bengals are winning because they are beating teams that are bad? Not necessarily, since you only have three games to go by at this moment.
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Old 09-24-2006, 11:36 PM   #445
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Let's compromise: as of week three, the NFC and AFC are equal in talent and potential.

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Old 09-24-2006, 11:39 PM   #446
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Colts, Jags, Patriots, Bengals, Steelers, Ravens, Chargers are all better then the best NFC team. Sorry.
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Nooooooooooo Patriots just gave up a long ass TD

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Old 09-24-2006, 11:54 PM   #449
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But after the Broncos beat the Pats tonight, it'll be all tied up..
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Old 09-24-2006, 11:59 PM   #450
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The current overall records really have nothing to do with that argument though, so I really don't know what your point was.

Good job predicting the outcome though I guess
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Old 09-25-2006, 01:03 AM   #451
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That list has only to do with this season. Jake Plummer was one of the top QB's in the NFL last season, McNair has looked good this year on Baltimore, Culpepper was almost the MVP two years ago, I forget who else you disagree with, but Favre is not in the top half of quarterbacks anymore.
I don't understand. You base it off this year, yet you bring last season and two years ago into the argument?

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Favre tore it up today againest the Lions, alright if he does good againest somebody like the Bears or somethign I'll take back my claim. Right now though, I don't think hes a top 10 QB.
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Thank God for that Broncos win. Now maybe we'll hear the end of the whining from Patriots fans. Broncos > Pats
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Yeah Broncos have had the Patriots number for a while now. So annoying since I cannot stand the Broncos.

DJ Williams tried to lay out Ben Watson and had to get taken off the field. Ben Watson destories Denver players for some reason, too bad the Pats don't have 11 Ben Watsons
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Ben Watson is a freak. They had Champ covering him alot. That shows the respect they have for Watson.
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Outlaw, it is completely relevant to say that Daunte Culpepper is still a talented quarterback THIS YEAR when he was nearly the MVP two years ago, because he is in his prime age. When I made the post I was still optimistic that he will return to form, but if he is this injured/immobile all season, then he won't be up there. My post was banking on him being healthy.

About the Bears/Vikings game, I really think the Vikings should have won. Grossman's interception was just awful, but it all came down to that final Bears drive and they dominated the Vikings defense when it really mattered. I think they are about equal teams, but the fact that the Bears have some recievers, Mohammad and the tight end guy, will give them the division. Hopefully the Vikes can win 9 or so and get into the playoffs.
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Thank God for that Broncos win. Now maybe we'll hear the end of the whining from Patriots fans. Broncos > Pats
Speaking of whining Pats fans...where's VEL?
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IT IS WEEK 3.

By your logic, the only reason why the Bengals are undefeated is because they beat teams with losing records. Does that mean that the Bengals are winning because they are beating teams that are bad? Not necessarily, since you only have three games to go by at this moment.
No, by my logic the Bengals are undefeated because they went 11-5 last year and are playing this year with 19 returning starters plus 2 new big FA signings. I'm comparing teams from their performance last year mixed with the various roster changes made during the offseason. It's not hard to do. Flawed logic would be assuming that every team starts at the same level of talent at the beginning of the year and only after the season is over can we say who was good and who was bad. Did you honestly think the 49ers and the Texans were Super Bowl contenders at the start of the year? We don't have to wait til Week 15 to claim the Raiders won't make the playoffs.
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No, by my logic the Bengals are undefeated because they went 11-5 last year and are playing this year with 19 returning starters plus 2 new big FA signings. I'm comparing teams from their performance last year mixed with the various roster changes made during the offseason. It's not hard to do. Flawed logic would be assuming that every team starts at the same level of talent at the beginning of the year and only after the season is over can we say who was good and who was bad. Did you honestly think the 49ers and the Texans were Super Bowl contenders at the start of the year? We don't have to wait til Week 15 to claim the Raiders won't make the playoffs.
Yeah exactly

I am kind of surprised people are even disputing this claim really, I thought it was a given that the AFC was the tougher conference overall.
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WHO DAT?!? WHO DAT?!? WHO DAT SAY THEY GON BEAT DEM SAINTS?!?

Fuck, I wish I was in NOLA b/c I have access to tickets..

FUCK

It's all good.. Going to a private party at my brother bar..

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No, by my logic the Bengals are undefeated because they went 11-5 last year and are playing this year with 19 returning starters plus 2 new big FA signings. I'm comparing teams from their performance last year mixed with the various roster changes made during the offseason. It's not hard to do. Flawed logic would be assuming that every team starts at the same level of talent at the beginning of the year and only after the season is over can we say who was good and who was bad. Did you honestly think the 49ers and the Texans were Super Bowl contenders at the start of the year? We don't have to wait til Week 15 to claim the Raiders won't make the playoffs.
What about teams like the Rams? The Cardinals? The Jets?

There's no way you can determine how good teams like that are in only three weeks.
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Old 09-25-2006, 06:53 PM   #468
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Also, in a way, teams ARE equal at the beginning of each season.

Everything prior to the season is just speculation that people contrive from looking at free agent pickups etc etc. Sure, the Raiders are horseshit, but there was no way you could have said that with validity before you even saw them play. Take Minnesota and Chicago last year as examples. Everyone believed that the Vikings were a Super Bowl contender and the Bears were destined to be the worse team in the NFL, based before even seeing them play. The fact of the matter is that some teams overperform and the rest underperform to their hype, and there is no way you can determine which team falls into what category at this period of the season.
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Old 09-25-2006, 06:56 PM   #469
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One team makes it from the NFC just like ONE team makes it from the AFC..

Do you guys want a cookie because it'll be harder for your team to make it to the Super Bowl than a team in the NFC??
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You guys are just going off the notion that Indianapolis, New England, Denver, Pittsburgh, etc have been great in the past, therefore will be great in the future as well.

If football was like this then the Super Bowl would have been Green Bay vs. Kansas City forty times in a row.
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KIRKLAND, Wash. (Sept. 25, 2006) -- League MVP Shaun Alexander has a broken left foot and will be lost to the Seattle Seahawks for at least a couple of weeks.

Coach Mike Holmgren said that a bone scan revealed Alexander sustained a "small crack" and "displaced fracture" on a non-weight-bearing bone in his foot sometime during the Seahawks' 42-30 win over the New York Giants. Alexander ran for 47 yards on 20 carries before sitting out the fourth quarter, which began with Seattle leading 42-3.

The coach said last season's NFL rushing leader was on crutches inside team headquarters Sept. 25.

"You lose the MVP for a while, it's a hit," Holmgren said. "Let's face it, he's the MVP. We're not going to sugarcoat it."

Alexander missed practices last Sept. 20-21 because of soreness from a bone bruise he sustained while rushing for 51 yards on 19 carries in the Sept. 10 season opener at Detroit. Holmgren said that bone bruise led to the small crack.

Alexander will miss at least the Oct. 1 showdown at Chicago, which is also 3-0. Seattle has its bye the following week before playing at division rival St. Louis on Oct. 15.

"I don't think it will be lengthy," Holmgren said. "He just has to stay off of it and let it heal."

Holmgren said he could not yet specify how long last season's league rushing champion would be out.

"We're looking at a few weeks, let's put it that way," Holmgren said. "The good thing is, it's just a small, little crack -- if you want to talk about a good thing."

Alexander has started 69 of the last 70 games for the Seahawks. His only absence in that span was a 2002 start that he missed to help with the birth of his first daughter. He entered that game in the second quarter.

Last season, Alexander rushed for 1,880 yards and 27 touchdowns. He has just 187 yards and an average of 2.9 yards per carry through three games. His career average is 4.5 yards per rush. He has gained fewer than 100 yards in each of Seattle's three games this season, his first such streak in two years.

Against New York, the Seahawks welcomed former Super Bowl MVP Deion Branch by featuring four-wide receiver formations, and Matt Hasselbeck threw a franchise record-tying five touchdown passes.

Maurice Morris will make his fourth career start for Alexander against the Bears. Morris rushed 15 times for 18 yards against the Giants.

"You have only one way to go," Holmgren said. "Just plug someone in and go."
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About the Bears/Vikings game, I really think the Vikings should have won. Grossman's interception was just awful, but it all came down to that final Bears drive and they dominated the Vikings defense when it really mattered.
Then the Vikings probably didn't deserve the W.
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Bears will be playing the Seahawks (- Alexander) this week.

4-0?
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DrA, it's called the Law of Probability. Using this law we can assume with a degree of certainty that particular events will take place depending on circumstances surrounding the events.

click here to learn more about the law of probability
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I must add a mandatory "lol, falcons" here. Go Saints!
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Derserving and should have do not mean the same things Gonzo
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It's not even an argument. The AFC is much better then the NFC. It's not about wanting a cookie. Its about correcting posters who claim NFC is better. It just isnt. I have no rooting intrest in anyone in the AFC or NFC besides the Colts. It's just a fact. AFC had crushed the NFC in the past 4 years.
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Saints are romping the Falcons, Atlanta's offense looks fucking awful tonight (so far) Although Crumpler did drop a wide open TD pass
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