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Second City Saint
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ROH's 100 Greatest Matches
this is the top 100 matches during the first 100 shows of ROH as discussed in the ROH fan board on their site.
1. Samoa Joe vs. Kenta Kobashi- Joe vs. Kobashi 2. Samoa Joe vs. CM Punk- Joe vs. Punk II 3. Blood Generation vs. Do Fixer- Supercard of Honor 4. Low-Ki vs. KENTA- Final Battle 2005 5. Samoa Joe vs. CM Punk- All-Star Extravaganza II 6. Bryan Danielson vs. Roderick Strong- Vendetta 7. Bryan Danielson vs. Roderick Strong- Supercard of Honor 8. Samoa Joe vs. Bryan Danielson- Midnight Express Reunion 9. AJ Styles vs. Paul London- Night of the Grudges 10. Team ROH (Samoa Joe, BJ Whitmer, & Adam Pearce) vs. Team CZW (Chris Hero, Necro Butcher, & Super Dragon)- The 100th Show 11. Low-Ki vs. American Dragon vs. "Fallen Angel" Christopher Daniels- Era of Honor Begins 12. Paul London vs. Bryan Danielson- Epic Encounter 13. CM Punk vs. Austin Aries- Death Before Dishonor III 14. Austin Aries vs. Bryan Danielson- Testing The Limit 15. Bryan Danielson vs. James Gibson- Glory By Honor IV 16. American Dragon vs. Low-Ki- Round Robin Challenge 17. Generation Next vs. The Embassy- Steel Cage Warfare 18. Austin Aries vs. Samoa Joe- Final Battle 2004 19. Homicide vs. Steve Corino- Bitter Friends, Stiffer Enemies 20. Samoa Joe vs. Jay Briscoes- At Our Best 21. Samoa Joe vs. CM Punk- World Title Classic 22. Paul London vs. Michael Shane- Unscripted 23. Generation Next vs. John Walters, Jimmy Rave, & The Briscoes- Generation Next 24. Bryan Danielson vs. Austin Aries vs. Mark Briscoe vs. Homicide vs. Colt Cabana vs. Samoa Joe- Survival Of The Fittest 2004 25. CM Punk & Ace Steel vs. Dan Maff & BJ Whitmer- Death Before Dishonor II: Night 2 26. Low-Ki vs. Samoa Joe- Glory By Honor 27. Roderick Strong vs. James Gibson- Unforgettable 28. Blood Generation vs. Generation Next- Dragon Gate Challenge 29. CM Punk vs. Jimmy Rave- Nowhere To Run 30. Low-Ki vs. "Fallen Angel" Christopher Daniels vs. Doug Williams vs. Spanky- Crowning A Champion 31. Bryan Danielson vs. Roderick Strong- This Means War 32. Roderick Strong & Jack Evans vs. Jay & Mark Briscoe- Best In The World 33. Paul London vs. AJ Styles vs. Low-Ki- One-Year Anniversary Show 34. Austin Aries vs. Alex Shelley- Manhattan Mayhem 35. Steve Corino vs. Homicide- War Of The Wire 36. Samoa Joe & Jay Lethal vs. Low-Ki & Homicide- Punk: The Final Chapter 37. CM Punk & Colt Cabana vs. Jay & Mark Briscoe- Death Before Dishonor II: Night 1 38. Homicide vs. Bryan Danielson- Reborn: Stage 2 39. Bryan Danielson vs. Jimmy Rave- 4th Anniversary Show 40. Bryan Danielson vs. Spanky- Best of the American Super-Juniours Tournament 41. Samoa Joe & Jushin "Thunder" Lyger vs. Bryan Danielson & Low-Ki- Weekend of Thunder: Night 2 42. Kenta Kobashi & Homicide vs. Samoa Joe & Low-Ki- Unforgettable 43. Bryan Danielson vs. Alex Shelley- Arena Warfare 44. Colt Cabana vs. Homicide- Better Than Our Best 45. AJ Styles vs. American Dragon- All-Star Extravaganza 46. CM Punk vs. James Gibson vs. Samoa Joe vs. Christopher Daniels- Redemption 47. Austin Aries & Roderick Strong vs. AJ Styles & Matt Sydal- 4th Anniversary Show 48. Jack Evans vs. Samoa Joe vs. Delirious vs. Ebetaroh- The Final Showdown 49. Low-Ki vs. The Amazing Red- Road To The Title 50. Austin Aries vs. James Gibson- The Final Showdown 51. BJ Whitmer vs. Homicide vs. Colt Cabana vs. Dan Maff- Death Before Dishonor 52. Scramble Cage I- Main Event Spectacles 53. Samoa Joe vs. Jay Lethal- Manhattan Mayhem 54. Bryan Danielson vs. Lance Storm- Better Than Our Best 55. AJ Stlyes vs. Matt Sydal- Hell Freezes Over 56. Paul London vs. Bryan Danielson- Night of the Butcher 57. KENTA & Naomichi Marufuji vs. Bryan Danielson & Samoa Joe- Best In The World 58. AJ Styles & Matt Sydal vs. Austin Aries & Jack Evans- Supercard of Honor 59. Jay Briscoe vs. Mark Briscoe- Honor Invades Boston 60. BJ Whitmer vs. Jimmy Jacobs- Dragon Gate Challenge 61. Samoa Joe vs. Homicide- Death Before Dishonor II: Night 1 62. Homicide vs. BJ Whitmer- Main Event Spectacles 63. CM Punk vs. Alex Shelley- 3rd Anniversary Celebration: Night 2 64. BJ Whitmer & Jimmy Jacobs vs. Roderick Strong & Jack Evans- Manhattan Mayhem 65. Jushin "Thunder" Lyger vs. Bryan Danielson- Weekend of Thunder: Night 1 66. Alex Shelley vs. Jimmy Jacobs- Joe vs. Punk II 67. Doug Williams vs. Christopher Daniels- Night of Champions 68. AJ Styles & The Amazing Red vs. Jay & Mark Briscoe- Night of Champions 69. CM Punk vs. James Gibson- Fate of An Angel 70. John Walter vs. Xavier- Final Battle 2003 71. Jimmy Rave vs. CM Punk- Manhattan Mayhem 72. AJ Styles vs. Roderick Strong- Fate of An Angel 73. Jay & Mark Briscoe vs. AJ Styles & Matt Sydal- The 100th Show 74. Austin Aries & Roderick Strong vs. CIMA & Naruki Doi- Better Than Our Best 75. AJ Styles vs. Bryan Danielson- Main Event Spectacles 76. CM Punk & Colt Cabana vs. Jay & Mark Briscoe- Reborn: Stage 2 77. CM Punk vs. Roderick Strong- Escape From New York 78. The Prophecy vs. The Second City Saints- Battle Lines Are Drawn 79. AJ Styles vs. Low-Ki- Night of Appreciation 80. AJ Styles vs. Bryan Danielson- Dissension 81. Nigel McGuinness vs. Austin Aries- Unscripted II 82. CM Punk vs. Raven- Death Before Dishonor 83. Samoa Joe vs. Homicide- Do or Die 84. CM Punk vs. Roderick Strong- The Future Is Now 85. Bryan Danielson vs. Chris Hero- Hell Freezes Over 86. Austin Aries & Roderick Strong vs. Bryan Danielson & Jay Lethal- Tag Wars 2006 87. Samoa Joe vs. Austin Aries- Escape From New York 88. CM Punk vs. AJ Styles- At Our Best 89. Bryan Danielson vs. Naomichi Marufuji- Final Battle 2005 90. Jimmy Rave, Alex Shelley, & Masato Yoshino vs. Do Fixer- Better Than Our Best 91. Austin Aries vs. Bryan Danielson- Nowhere To Run 92. Alex Shelley vs. Claudio Castagnoli- This Means War 93. The Rottweilers vs. Samoa Joe & The Briscoes- Reborn: Completion 94. James Gibson vs. Spanky- 3rd Anniversary Celebration: Night 2 95. Low-Ki vs. Austin Aries- The Future Is Now 96. Samoa Joe vs. Christopher Daniels- Vendetta 97. CM Punk & Colt Cabana vs. Jay & Mark Briscoe- Round Robin Challenge III 98. Samoa Joe vs. Low-Ki vs. Dan Maff vs. BJ Whitmer- 2nd Anniversary Show 99. Homicide vs. Doug Williams- Nowhere To Run 100. Roderick Strong & Jack Evans vs. Homicide & Rocky Romero- Joe vs. Punk II Punk is in 18 of these. - 2010 Stanley Cup Champions -
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Stickman
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There's a bit too much Samoa Joe in the list.
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1/2 Optimist 1/2 Amazing
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1/2 Optimist 1/2 Amazing
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7. Bryan Danielson vs. Roderick Strong- Supercard of Honor
Bullshit, that was sooo fucking dull |
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#5 |
Boss
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Joe is over rated.
Seriously you guys, the more I watch RoH the more I am convinced RoH marks are just a pathedically blinding loyal to the idea of "Anti-WWE/underground" as the TNA marks. RoH is not that great, and quite frankly I am getting bored with all the RoH dick sucking that has been going on, bored and upset. I had high hopes for them, and they basically let me down. RoH is not the end all be all, Samoa Joe is quite possibly the single most over rated and over hyped wrestler in history, and I am done. I've said my peace, thank you and good night. |
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1/2 Optimist 1/2 Amazing
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Joe IMO is awesome, he's been involved in many of my more favourite matches of recent years and offers something different to anyone else as no one his size works that style with as much agility.
The guy looks super stiff, yet I've never once heard of him hurting anyone seriously, he's a great worker for that alone, by working that style and still 'working' take notes Low Ki |
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Higher. Further. Faster.
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WTF? Did they really have to go with 100? Need attention much?
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Ninja Mod, Esquire
Posts: 12,676
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I stand by my claim that ROH has the best and most consistent wrestling in America today.
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FIT Challenge Slag People
Posts: 13,816
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It's a blood match!
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Joe is as good as the hype.
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the heartbreak king
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That's a pretty solid list. 100 matches might have been overkill, but the top of the list is definitley solid.
I hype ROH because I feel that it is the best wrestling promotion in North America, hands down. Nothing else gets me as excited to watch wrestling as ROH does. I could give a fuck less about WWE and TNA. I watch those because it's free wrestling. ROH, however, gets me to pay hard earned money to see what they have to put out. Yes, they're a young organization, and yes, they have room for improvement, but they're far more on track than WWE or TNA are. |
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Member
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I have only seen a couple ROH shows, and I have enjoyed them, but I would love to see some of those Joe/Punk matches, as they seem to be the one's who are being the most hyped on the internet right now.
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I'm Mr. White Christmas
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Samoa Joe is probly the most overrated person of all time
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Temporary
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No
Even if he is overrated (which I dont think he is) there is no way he is the most overrated ever. |
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Hey Mister!
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I think that roh is a little overrated. A little bit. Its still awesome, but not as amazing as some roh marks make it out to be. Part of the problem is a lack if unique styles. Most of the guys that work there are cruiserweights. They do have some guys that have unique styles like samoa Joe, lo-ki, and AmDrag. And these guys are usually the ones to be the post popular stars there. They would do good to get some heavyweights. And even though there are great matches with great storytelling and psychology, its usually in the main event. A lot of the undercard matches, ARE spotfests. They could do with a veteran to teach all the younger guys about these aspects.
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Mad
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ROH is overrated
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One Of A Kind
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I'm not bothered about RoH tbh, doesn't appeal to me, but I do respect what they try to be about though it isn't getting them anywhere.
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Hey Mister!
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...IN HD!!!!
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Fat Joe
Keep it poppin, Joe. |
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RoH does put out consistently solid shows for they're style of wrestling. Not the flashiest, nor the most entertaining in terms of storylines and the like, but solid wrestling. They are good for what they do. It's a good alternative to WWE and TNA. I'm not a hardcore RoH mark or anything and I don't really keep up with it anymore(except for the results posted here on the forum) but it is what it's advertised to be. And from my limited exposure to RoH I have not been let down.
And hardcore RoH marks are just as bad as TNA marks, WWE marks, ECW marks, or mid-80s NWA marks. Of course they're going to think they're favorite thing is the best thing out there and everything else is shit in comparison. But that is the nature of the mark. |
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I am the cheese
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Yeah, except the hardcore mid 80-s NWA mark's are right.
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One Of A Kind
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What I meant was they wont appeal to the larger audience. Yes their fanbase may have grown, but it wont appeal to the majority imo. |
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All Part Of The Plan
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I'm not sure if this was a consensus vote or one guy's list, can't really remember. Here are my picks of the better ones btw (I don't agree with all of them or the rankings necessarily but I'll just stick with the list for simplicity): 2. Samoa Joe vs. CM Punk- Joe vs. Punk II 3. Blood Generation vs. Do Fixer- Supercard of Honor 4. Low-Ki vs. KENTA- Final Battle 2005 6. Bryan Danielson vs. Roderick Strong- Vendetta 9. AJ Styles vs. Paul London- Night of the Grudges 10. Team ROH (Samoa Joe, BJ Whitmer, & Adam Pearce) vs. Team CZW (Chris Hero, Necro Butcher, & Super Dragon)- The 100th Show 12. Paul London vs. Bryan Danielson- Epic Encounter 15. Bryan Danielson vs. James Gibson- Glory By Honor IV 17. Generation Next vs. The Embassy- Steel Cage Warfare 19. Homicide vs. Steve Corino- Bitter Friends, Stiffer Enemies 27. Roderick Strong vs. James Gibson- Unforgettable 32. Roderick Strong & Jack Evans vs. Jay & Mark Briscoe- Best In The World 34. Austin Aries vs. Alex Shelley- Manhattan Mayhem 39. Bryan Danielson vs. Jimmy Rave- 4th Anniversary Show 47. Austin Aries & Roderick Strong vs. AJ Styles & Matt Sydal- 4th Anniversary Show 48. Jack Evans vs. Samoa Joe vs. Delirious vs. Ebetaroh- The Final Showdown 58. AJ Styles & Matt Sydal vs. Austin Aries & Jack Evans- Supercard of Honor 73. Jay & Mark Briscoe vs. AJ Styles & Matt Sydal- The 100th Show 74. Austin Aries & Roderick Strong vs. CIMA & Naruki Doi- Better Than Our Best 77. CM Punk vs. Roderick Strong- Escape From New York 80. AJ Styles vs. Bryan Danielson- Dissension 92. Alex Shelley vs. Claudio Castagnoli- This Means War I haven't seen a few of them for a while so my memory might be a bit hazy but there's something for everyone in there. |
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1/2 Optimist 1/2 Amazing
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ROH isn't the best promotion in the US IMO, but they have the best wrestling
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Hey Mister!
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All Part Of The Plan
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Flair/Steamboat matches are more enjoyable than pretty much anything in wrestling
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