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Old 12-24-2006, 01:11 PM   #41
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Just finished watching it - glad I didn't pay for it, although I want my bandwidth back.
Yeah, being an aussie, your download speed is probably measured in KB/day.

Did you read the book?
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Old 12-24-2006, 01:19 PM   #42
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I bought my daughter the first book (Eragon) so kiss my ass.
Did she/żou see the movie first?

Were you surprised when Eragon blew up the death star with help from his friend Brom Solo, who killed Harry Potter's Parents?
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Old 12-24-2006, 01:29 PM   #43
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Nah, she wants to read the book first. I'm eager to see if she sees the parallels of other storylines within this book. I'll say nothing to influence her p.o.v.
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This movie pretty much tanked. I don't see them making any more out of the series unless they're direct-to-DVD.
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Old 12-24-2006, 06:17 PM   #46
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LOL, they'll make Oooooodles of money. I feel the same way about Harry Potter, but they carry on carrying on.
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Yeah but the Harry Potter movies make money, and lots of it.
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I was trying to go for things that weren't particularly instep.

Anyway, is themovie doing that horrible?
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Old 12-24-2006, 07:24 PM   #49
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Yeah but the Harry Potter movies make money, and lots of it.
They also aren't critically panned.

The Potter movies are not given the highest of reviews, but are offered up fair reviews. The Eragon movie, by th esame people has been torn down, and pretty rightfully so.

Potter, while not faithful to the original books, is still imaginative fantasy.

Eragon reminds me of one of those Sci Fi original movies that star former Star Trek actors who can't get other work.
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Old 01-03-2007, 10:15 AM   #50
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My daughter breezed through the book in like 3 days, regardless of whether or not it was a cheap plot derived from other works, she enjoyed it. That's what it's all about, well worth the $13 I paid for it.

She wants me to take her to the movie now. Which I will.
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That's the thing. I thought it was enjoyable myself.

The movie is nothing like the book though, and I enjoyed it a lot less.
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Never read the book or anything, but this movie was bad. Hard to sit through. Nothing in it worked, I see why it's been criticized so much.
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That's the thing. I thought it was enjoyable myself.

The movie is nothing like the book though, and I enjoyed it a lot less.
I'm taking her to the show tonight, I hope she isn't disappointed in it. I'll be sure to ask her after the show if it followed the book.
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It does, but it's more a "Star Wars follows Hidden Fortress" way.
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So we walk out of the theater and my daughter says "Wow, that killed the book" She went on to tell how much stuff they either left out or told wrong. I said to her that I found the movie very rushed and that it didn't have any flow. She says to me "The guy that wrote the script never read the book, a friend must of told him vaguely what it was about"

She got home and pulled out the book to show me all the missing chapters.

She wants to write a letter to the author complaining.
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Ahaha, she went ahead and wrote them a letter.

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Dear producer,

I have recently watched the Movie Eragon, and was very disappointed. The amount of items left out of the movie was unacceptable. Here is just a few of the flaws of the film;

v The Urgals didn’t have horns
v Horst didn’t pay for the meat that Eragon was suppose to by from Sloan
v Angela didn’t properly tell the fortune of Eragon
v Eragon wasn’t trained in magic by Brom
v Brom died to soon
v Murtagh came in about 5 chapters to late, and in the wrong manner
v Eragon didn’t choose Saphira’s name from the list that was given to him by Brom
v They only visited about 2 of the 5 cities, and of that, missed the most important ones (i.e. Yazuac, and Teriem)
v Eragon was never taken prisoner in Gil’ead
v Eragon never learned to read from Jeod, a very important friend of Brom, that lives in Teirm, and it just so happens to be where Angela lives and tells his fortune
v Solumbum wasn’t even part of the film, and neither were the twins in Trongiem
v There was no mention of the Hadarrac Desert, or Eragon lifting water from the ground.
v Arya came in way to soon
v The Urgal invasion wasn’t even shown right
v There was no dragon hold, which was an important part of the book’s final chapters, because of the Isdar Mithrim, or star rose


The list of flaws could go on for a long time, but those are some of the main points that could be made. I highly doubt that you even read the book, and you had someone tell you about it instead. As I Said at the beginning of the letter, I am very disappointed in the turn-out of the movie. The only reason that it did so well was because the book has been given titles of #1 best seller from New York times, Publishers weekly, The USA today, The Wall Street Journal, and was named The Book Sence Book of the year, and it also helps that the book was awesome. The movie slaughtered the book, tore it into small pieces and ate it, then threw it up and flushed it down the toilet.

Yours truly,
Angela Cochrane
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Have her make a copy and send it to the author. I don't care if he's 16 years old or whatever, you should have some say in the movie based on your book. The kid should take a few pointers from J.K. Rowling.

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Old 01-04-2007, 09:25 PM   #58
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Ahaha, she went ahead and wrote them a letter.
Most of these are rather minor points.

The Urgals not having horns, for example.

The Twins? Well, interestingly enough, the final fight included two identical-looking people flaking (I think) the Shade. I'm missing my copy of Eldest, so I don't know what happens next, but I think they cut out the middleman.

The bit about Horst? No big. They wrote out much of the life before he becomes a Rider, anyway.

The lack of the Werecat sucks, though he was not crucial to the plot. See Also, Bombadil, Tom.

I can explain the desert and lack of lifting water: It would slow the movie down.

A lot of this stuff is really minor. Though rewriting the whole ending (They got the invasion wrong) is a big one on my list of no-nos. They executed this movie, and I mean they raped it, drew, quartered, raped the quarters, took them out back, shot them, and fucked the holes.

Most of what she was complaining about? That's like Trekkies complaining about the PRime Directive being broken, or the continuity of Kirk's wig.
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Old 01-04-2007, 09:30 PM   #59
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Have her make a copy and send it to the author. I don't care if he's 16 years old or whatever, you should have some say in the movie based on your book. The kid should take a few pointers from J.K. Rowling.

Buy anyway, good for your girl.
J.K. Rowling? Those movies are pretty butchered themselves.

He's 23 now. or so. Makes me feel like a slacker. I'm still rewriting the novel I started at 14.
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Keep up the good work.

But really, it's probably written somewhere that you should sit in on the movie based on your book. The last thing you need is for someone to buy the rights from you and make a movie that will be complete and utter garbage.
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Well, I don't think these are coming out without the approval of the authors. Especially the Potter books. She's had nothing but praise for the movies, far as I've seen. I couldn't imagine blind creative control to someone else, but honestly, in most cases, I think people expect too much.

Eragon's not one of those cases. The movie should have had 30 minutes more content at least, and about half the movie should have been different. Regardless of the whole "it's not like the book" thing, which is okay, the big problem is that the story they told was not only different, but poorly constructed.
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Those were her thoughts. I'm pretty proud that she recognized so many flaws, it tells me she comprehended and retained what she read. Of course it's geeky of her, but daddy don't care
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She got a few wrong, as well.

I dunno. Perhaps I'm just jaded by the number of kids who dissected the Harry Potter books.
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She seemed to like both the books and the movies for Harry Potter, same as Lord of the Rings. This is the first time she's ever made a complaint about things of this nature.
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I was talking more in scope than specifics.

And when I look at a letter like that, I look at it from a critical point of view. Not to tear down, but to point out what's wrong so that one can improve upon it. In this case, my attention was drawn to the concept of being taken seriously by the person who reads it.

Scarily, yes, I did think about professionalism when I was 7-8.
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Old 01-05-2007, 08:58 AM   #66
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KK, stfu. She's a kid. Get a fucking life or find something better to analyze than a child's letter.

This makes you officially the biggest looser I have ever seen.
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Old 01-05-2007, 09:26 AM   #67
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Wow. Somehow, Hero managed to take my comments in stride, but you have to spazz out?

Flipping out over constructive criticism. Oh yeah. You're in a good boat to call someone a loser.
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Nah Kane's not being overly critical. In fact I brought to my daughter's attention some of the things Kane said, to see what her reaction to it was. She's 13 but level headed and says she's going to re-read certain things to see who is right.
Now most kids would flip out and go on about how right they are and not even consider being wrong.

Like I said, my daughter is a king.
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Your daughter's 13? Shit. I'd better back off. I thought I was picking on an 8 year old.

But yeah, if she's re-reading the book to compare points of view, that's pretty groovy.
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BTW, the one thing that stuck out to me in her commentary was that Murtagh shows up too early. I thought he was the werecat at first, because he shows up when Angela reads his fortune.

In either case, whether you go by the city or by the event, Murtagh shows up before he would in the book if I'm remembering right.
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All these names and places mean nothing to me, I saw the movie but I can't recall the names of anyone. I told her I'd read the book (at some point) but until then all that she had typed is gibberish to me.
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Yeah, being an aussie, your download speed is probably measured in KB/day.

Did you read the book?
Never read the books - never heard of them until this movie came out. I'm not into fantasy, although I enjoyed the Harry Potter books and movies. If I need a dragons and magic fix I'll listen to Dio.
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KK, stfu. She's a kid. Get a fucking life or find something better to analyze than a child's letter.

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All these names and places mean nothing to me, I saw the movie but I can't recall the names of anyone. I told her I'd read the book (at some point) but until then all that she had typed is gibberish to me.
Might still be giberish to you.
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Never read the books - never heard of them until this movie came out. I'm not into fantasy, although I enjoyed the Harry Potter books and movies. If I need a dragons and magic fix I'll listen to Dio.
Ahhh, Dio. The D&D fan favorite.

Eragon isn't very magical: The series is very low-magic, though the main character can cast it. Even then, in limited doses. Thankfully. He may grow; I can't find my copy of Eldest, so I can't tell you how much he grows, though I do know he's up for some Jedi training.

If you like Harry Potter, you might enjoy these, as they're comewhat comparable. still, compared to the source material (Susan Cooper, the Worst Witch, etc. For Harry Potter), they look horribly derivative. I don't care if they're not original, but it's amazing the number of people who say that these are renamrkable and imaginative just because they've never picked a book up before.

Speaking of illiterate people, anyone else amused that Destor and PC took my comments worse than a 13 year old? Come on, that's some funny shit.
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Actually, if you like Harry Potter, you should probably just check out the Dark is Rising series, period. IT's almost 40 years old now, but it's a well-written series.

In fact, Nunder and Hero, since you both have kids of the right age, you should probably check them out anyway. The Dark Is Rising (The second book in the series) is being released as a movie sometime next year. Hopefully they've put time and money into it.
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Thanks KK I'll check out those books - actually a mate of mine has the Eragon series, so when he gets back from climbing mountains in Boreno I'll grab them off him.

BTW my oldest daughter is only 4 1/2, and although she can read and write I think Eragon is a little out of her depth.
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IS there more books after Eldest?
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Wow. Somehow, Hero managed to take my comments in stride, but you have to spazz out?

Flipping out over constructive criticism. Oh yeah. You're in a good boat to call someone a loser.
He said looser, which must mean something entirely different.
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