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Old 02-19-2007, 05:54 PM   #1
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Clox's Counsel #3: Pro Wrestling as Art
First thing I'd like to adress this week is the tragic deaths of both Bam Bam Bigelow and Mike Awesome. Great wrestlers. It seems like great big man are hard to find and even harder to keep in pro wrestling.

In Today's Counsel I'd like to adress the seeming stereotype of Pro Wrestling and how far the image has come, and ironically how bad the product has become.

In the begging Pro Wrestling was the stuff of carnivals. Interesting and painful.
40 years ago it was a sport. 20 years ago it was widely considered entertainment of rednecks. And now, as it garners more mainstream attention, it doesn't really deserve that attention it should have had 10 years ago.

I'm a firm believer that Pro Wrestling is a mix of Theater and Sports, ala Sports entertainment. However, I find that not even the purest wrestling or the greatest storylines have reached their potential.

Imagine if Pro Wrestling Addressed topics that actually mattered in America. Social Issues and matters of much controversy. It could provide clever, intelligent satire on the human dilema. The Charecter's could be used to adress specific issues, or to simply make interesting commentaries on life.
Pro Wrestling could be art.

A mixture of Sacrifice and drama different than anything else. If it had the proper writer's and wrestler's it could become not only the highest rated show, but the show for intellects and marks. The Ultimate Show.

If we could get thought provoking stories and charecters, Incredibly interesting, controversial matches, and wrestlers who actually speak to us we could have a new revolution in Pro Wrestling and in art.

It seems however that when pro wrestling is finally at it's new peak socially (with shows on TV almost every night. And several new promotions doing incredible things and garnering more news media attention than ever before) it's at it's worst quality.

We on the internet discuss all sorts of things, and I'm sure many of us would love to be writer's for WWE. We can come up with all sorts of things that would make wrestling better. I hope that some of us go to get higher education and use our knowledge of the industry to go on and make wrestling a more artistic and socially relevant medium.

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Oh yeah? I had a dream too once, but mine was fulfilled in a much shorter span of time. My dream was to interact with such intellects as Indifferent Clox and I'm living that right now.



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Old 02-19-2007, 06:39 PM   #2
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Old 02-19-2007, 06:40 PM   #3
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Old 02-19-2007, 07:27 PM   #4
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I've always thought that wrestling could work as a sport in the same way ice skating does. It is two people working together to produce something entertaining and atheletic.

It is a sport, but one that is more akin to a performing art like ice skating or gymnatics than boxing or amatuer wrestling.
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Old 02-19-2007, 07:52 PM   #5
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Yeah. I just think they could use the 'story' part as art
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Old 02-19-2007, 08:52 PM   #6
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Old 02-19-2007, 08:53 PM   #7
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Old 02-20-2007, 03:20 AM   #9
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Personally as a wrestler I do consider part of what I do art
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Old 02-20-2007, 09:42 AM   #12
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So fucking glad I got out of that Kai business before Clox joined up.
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Old 02-20-2007, 10:55 AM   #14
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So if we've got a bunch of Cobra Kai's running around, where are their Jedi counterparts?
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Old 02-20-2007, 01:40 PM   #16
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Old 02-21-2007, 07:41 PM   #18
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I'm a wrestler to, and I consider it art. But it could make more of an impact socially.
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Old 02-21-2007, 07:52 PM   #19
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I hope that some of us go to get higher education and use our knowledge of the industry to go on and make wrestling a more artistic and socially relevant medium.
For someone who spells 'address' wrong several times, I think you need to be concentrating on basic education at this time.
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Old 02-21-2007, 07:53 PM   #20
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Umm, could someone please help me out? Are there stables of people here on these forums? I mean, I know the Church of Naitch, but there are others?
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Umm, could someone please help me out? Are there stables of people here on these forums? I mean, I know the Church of Naitch, but there are others?
It's an avatar revenge thing.
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Old 02-21-2007, 07:55 PM   #22
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We tried. It failed.
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Old 02-21-2007, 08:11 PM   #24
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Who the hell are you to call TPWW and yourself "we"? You've been around for a year and everybody hates you(or so I figure from your red rep)! I would actually rather someone more respectable like Destor or Kane Knight say "we" than you.
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