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Old 03-01-2007, 02:10 PM   #1
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Is Bobby Lashley any good?
I've seen maybe 2 of his matches, and they kinda sucked, but anyone can have a bad day.
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Old 03-01-2007, 02:22 PM   #2
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He has some potential but he's been pushed way too fast. His ring psychology and personality are near nonexistent at this point.
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Old 03-01-2007, 02:59 PM   #3
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Old 03-01-2007, 02:59 PM   #4
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Old 03-01-2007, 03:29 PM   #7
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He can be carried to a good match.
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Old 03-01-2007, 04:00 PM   #8
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He has the tools. He just hasn't fully learned to utilize them. His mic skills are also suffering but who says he needs to talk.
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Lashley is good. Well, he has the potential to be good. He's got an amateur wrestling background, and he used to work 20-minute matches with guys like Finlay and King Booker on a week-to-week basis on SmackDown!. That's where he should still be.

A heel turn with Lashley, with a mouthpiece and a feud with Chris Benoit over the United States Championship would have been a thing of beauty.
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Old 03-01-2007, 04:09 PM   #10
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I've seen maybe 2 of his matches, and they kinda sucked, but anyone can have a bad day.
No he is shite.
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Old 03-01-2007, 04:39 PM   #11
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Lashley is pretty terrible. Even Jesse Jackson says he's pretty bad.
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Old 03-01-2007, 04:41 PM   #12
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Well he's certainly no Monty Brown.....
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Old 03-01-2007, 05:11 PM   #14
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Well he's certainly no Monty Brown.....
Comparing shit to dhiarria doesn't make shit any better.
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Old 03-01-2007, 05:32 PM   #15
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He has some potential but he's been pushed way too fast. His ring psychology and personality are near nonexistent at this point.
Quoted AND highlighted cause this perfectly describes Lashley.

I hate his voice, I know he's educated and a really clever guy, but when he talks he sounds like a fuckin' prissy simpleton.
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Old 03-01-2007, 07:01 PM   #17
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He's really green yes. But he oozes charisma, don't kid yourselves. Can he talk? Nah. Guess what? That has nothing to with charisma.
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Old 03-01-2007, 07:09 PM   #18
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Lashley isn't half as bad as he's made out to be.
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Old 03-01-2007, 07:10 PM   #19
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He only started to get heat when they put him on ECW. Before that no one gave him shit, now he's the anti-Christ.
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Old 03-01-2007, 07:10 PM   #20
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He shouldn't have been champ yet though.
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Old 03-01-2007, 07:11 PM   #21
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He's not good enough to be IC champ?
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Old 03-01-2007, 07:11 PM   #22
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He only started to get heat when they put him on ECW. Before that no one gave him shit, now he's the anti-Christ.
Yeah, that's not his fault. They shouldn't have put him in ECW either nevermind make him champ.
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Old 03-01-2007, 07:11 PM   #23
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I mean how much different is the ECW from the IC belt? Not much.
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He's not good enough to be IC champ?
I meant ECW champ. He shouldn't have any world title yet even if the belt doesn't mean much these days.
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Old 03-01-2007, 07:13 PM   #25
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I mean how much different is the ECW from the IC belt? Not much.
My point exactly. If they want it to be seen as the ECW World championship, they should treat it that way. It shouldn't be like a mid card belt.
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Old 03-01-2007, 07:14 PM   #27
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ANd he IS more credible the EVERYONE on the ECW roster save RVD.
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My point exactly. If they want it to be seen as the ECW World championship, they should treat it that way. It shouldn't be like a mid card belt.
Explain to me why I should blame Lashley for that.
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Explain to me why I should blame Lashley for that.
You shouldn't. I did say 'it's not Lashley's fault'.
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ANd he IS more credible the EVERYONE on the ECW roster save RVD.
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Old 03-01-2007, 09:11 PM   #32
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I like Lashley. He's got potential, but he's pulling it all together enough.
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Yeah he is. Having said that though, his stuff with Umaga this week made me want to see their match at Mania.
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Yeah he is. Having said that though, his stuff with Umaga this week made me want to see their match at Mania.
I won't lie. Me too.
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Old 03-03-2007, 07:22 AM   #35
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Bobby Lashley's suicide dive into the steel cage was hilarious in a way. That's not an insult on Lashley, it was just so funny to see him leap into it like that, and then crash out. I liked it. That's the kind of energy Bobby Lashley had when he squashed Simon Dean in his very first WWE match.

Lashley has got so much potential, but he is being pushed way to fast for his own good. It's almost heartbreaking, because you know he's going to stay there, and he's going to be booed for months until people just give in and accept he's there to stay. It's not the way things should be done, and it's fucked up the WWE picks and chooses which guys to market themselves on.

Bobby Lashley's performance on SmackDown! was...mmm. When Vince McMahon slapped him, Lashley gave him the funniest look. It was hilarious. It was the kind of face Wayne Brady pulled on Whose Line is it Anyway when he played a pissed-off grandma. It was that deliberate. If it was intended for comedy purposes, it would have been decent (he's certainly no Wayne Brady in the performing department), but it was meant to be serious. When Mr. Kennedy followed it up by having a promo exchange with Vince McMahon, my thoughts were "Kennedy is so much better than Lashley."

When he gets into the ring is when he shines best, but he is still finding his style. When he does get it down, he will be able to draw people into his matches really well, but right now he's a pre-schooler playing with adult wrestlers, and it's just upsetting to see.
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Old 03-03-2007, 07:29 AM   #36
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Quoted AND highlighted cause this perfectly describes Lashley.

I hate his voice, I know he's educated and a really clever guy, but when he talks he sounds like a fuckin' prissy simpleton.
He should make that his gimmick. When he cuts promos, bust out: "Mr. Umaga, do you know what I'm going to do to you? Please do not find offence in this, I am mainly presenting my attentions to you in an earnest manner. I'm going to...as the very peculiar metaphor, in it's disposition to be very close in terms of thematic concept to what it represents...kick your ass. Mr. Estrada, would you kindly translate for Mr. Umaga as kindly as would be appropraite. Thank you very much."

Another observation about Bobby Lashley's SmackDown! work. After he finished his match, his walk to the back was routine. If Bobby Lashley is really like that, my apologies, but it just didn't seem "in character" as much as it seemed "try to melt the hearts of the women and children." Another John Cena we have.
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Old 03-03-2007, 05:10 PM   #37
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Lashley isn't half as bad as he's made out to be.
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Old 03-03-2007, 10:21 PM   #38
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i don't mind him.

but he's been pushed way too fast (like everyone has said), so its just a shame.

If he was still making his way up,maybe with the US title or something similar, I'd say he'd b getting a far better reaction that he is now.

Also, ECW isn't good for him because Tazz and joey styles can't get any1 over (prolly more a fault of wwe than styles and tazz)
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Old 03-03-2007, 10:30 PM   #39
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He has been pushed quickly, and too soon. But it must be realized that the ECW belt push isn't on the same level as being pushed as a world champion on the other brands.
The problem is, his push isn't credible. Because other than the Big Show, he hasn't gone over anyone big. He was going over the same level of superstars on the midcard on Smackdown. So how is he supposed to be elevated as a champion?

Having him beat up on Holly or Test week in week out isn't making him credible, or the belt. He needed to be pushed as a heel and be involved in fueds with established talent. He should have gone over the Big Show 1 on 1. And he should have immediately gone into a believable fued with RVD or Benoit.
He should also be featured on Raw more, even though he's ECW.
Plus the ECW belt is honestly no more credible than the US and IC titles.

The way in which he's been pushed has been faulty, and premature. You can't make a superstar with a belt that isn't made yet. But its unfortunate that he takes the blame for this.
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The long short of it is probably that they should focus on getting the brand and its only (world) title over as a whole, before they try to use it as a tool to get individual superstars over.

If its a third rate show with a third rate belt, and there is no credibility to being the top dog yet, making someone who's not established the top guy isn't going to elevate them or the brand.
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