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Old 03-25-2007, 09:48 AM   #1
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Jeff Jarrett
Can someone explain what's the deal with Jarrett? Why is he so disliked etc?

I haven't watched much TNA so don't know too much. I remember him from his time in WWF and WCW and thinking he was really good, but since TNA everyone seems to hate him?

Is he an asshole backstage or summit? Backstage politics?
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Old 03-25-2007, 09:53 AM   #2
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I have liked him since WCW. I watch TNA every week and it isn't the same since he left. I cannot wait untill he returns.
I think he is the HHH of TNA. He was holding the title over and over again, and people were tired of him always having it. Maybe that is why people love to hate him.
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Old 03-25-2007, 10:07 AM   #3
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People don't love to hate him. They just hate him.
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Old 03-25-2007, 10:23 AM   #4
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I also don't quite get the hate for Jeff Jarrett. The guy has really assembled quite the resume over the years. He won Championships by the bucket-load in USWA and WWE before moving over to WCW, where he was pushed into the main event scene, if my memory serves me correctly. I think he may just have the same stigma about him as Xavier: He's not awful, it's just there are better people around him.

Jarrett should not have been NWA World Heavyweight Champion as many times as he was, but I can understand why he did it. The guy is like a legitimate nine or ten-time World Champion now. I think they just want someone who they can match up to Triple H. I think it's wrong, I think it's stupid, but I can understand where they're coming from. Well, where he is coming from.

That is probably a big negative against him too. He was such a focus of the shows when he had the book. He's a good wrestler and all, but to give yourself such a push is kind of egotistical.

I disagree with people who claim Jarrett is a deterent and all that. He's not too bad, in my opinion.
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Old 03-25-2007, 10:24 AM   #5
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He was up to last year at least TNA's Triple H. Booking everything around himself, pretty much dominating, etc.
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Old 03-25-2007, 10:36 AM   #7
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I also don't quite get the hate for Jeff Jarrett. The guy has really assembled quite the resume over the years. He won Championships by the bucket-load in USWA and WWE before moving over to WCW, where he was pushed into the main event scene, if my memory serves me correctly. I think he may just have the same stigma about him as Xavier: He's not awful, it's just there are better people around him.

Jarrett should not have been NWA World Heavyweight Champion as many times as he was, but I can understand why he did it. The guy is like a legitimate nine or ten-time World Champion now. I think they just want someone who they can match up to Triple H. I think it's wrong, I think it's stupid, but I can understand where they're coming from. Well, where he is coming from.

That is probably a big negative against him too. He was such a focus of the shows when he had the book. He's a good wrestler and all, but to give yourself such a push is kind of egotistical.

I disagree with people who claim Jarrett is a deterent and all that. He's not too bad, in my opinion.
What's your opinion on Triple H?

Must be similar to this or you're a hypocrite.
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Old 03-25-2007, 10:37 AM   #8
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For the record, Hunter is great in the ring and on the mic, but for some people it's hard to look past the way he books himself.
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Hunter spent several years not putting much or any effort into his work. To say he's great and people can't look past the booking is to do a disservice to anyone with an attention span.
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So you don't think that his booking isn't why the majority hate him?
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Old 03-25-2007, 10:55 AM   #11
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Ratings started to decline under Triple H. Do you think that was because of "booking," or "entertainment?"
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I agree that his workrate has diminished, but he's still better than half the roster.

And yeah, it's because of "entertainment", but you don't think having him shoved down our throats for years didn't have anything to do with him booking the show?

Ratings declined at an even higher rate with Cena has champion and shoved down our throats, but he's not booking himself and isn't to blame for what he's put into.

And anyway, I was strictly talking internet smarks, not casual fans. You know, the idioits on here that watch every fucking week ( ) hoping that "it will get better"?
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Old 03-25-2007, 11:08 AM   #13
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Actually, in the last couple of years, his workrate's been up. The last couple of months, WAY up. I haven't heard a complaint of late.
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Old 03-25-2007, 11:09 AM   #14
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And actually, umder Cena, there was never a major rapid decline. It was a slow, steady decline. To say they declined faster is...Well....Erroneous at best.
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Old 03-25-2007, 11:37 AM   #15
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But the internets didn't exist to let fans bitch about it. They had to actually go to shows to bitch.
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Old 03-25-2007, 12:37 PM   #17
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I have to admit, at least with Triple H, they could argue the booing was just a sign of him being a good heel. Double J as well. Cena?

The only way he could be more of a babyface is if he was actively serving in Iraq while posing with puppies and putting an American flag up Osama's ass.

So the bad reaction is more apparent with someone who's designed to be "the good guy."
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I hated Jarrett because of his TNA domination. But apparantly that era is over now since according to the news he took it hardest on himself when the ratings dipped. He said he's done with the top scene now apparantly - but who knows how credible that is.

But I never thought I'd say this....I kind of miss Jarrett being around in TNA. He's supposed to be Eric Young's friend so he should be back sometime soon.
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Ratings started to decline under Triple H. Do you think that was because of "booking," or "entertainment?"
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He should've gotten a world title run when he was with WWF. Or at least been put into a main event program.
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Old 03-25-2007, 05:20 PM   #22
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I hated Jarrett because of his TNA domination. But apparantly that era is over now since according to the news he took it hardest on himself when the ratings dipped. He said he's done with the top scene now apparantly - but who knows how credible that is.

But I never thought I'd say this....I kind of miss Jarrett being around in TNA. He's supposed to be Eric Young's friend so he should be back sometime soon.
Jarrett took it so hard he cut his 46 month reign down to only 18 months, and only actually reigned for the next 16.
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What's your opinion on Triple H?

Must be similar to this or you're a hypocrite.
Not necessarily. Triple H doesn't get too much shit these days. Everyone knows he is a pretty great wrestler, I don't think I've ever argued otherwise. A lot of people treat Jarrett as if he should die in a hole somewhere.

Triple H bores the fuck out of me, to be honest, but I admit politics are the main reason he is disliked. He also "carried the company" when he shouldn't have been, etc. So yeah, they are similar.
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Jarrett is one of my favorite wrestlers, great look, great history, and can work a mic. He dominated a little too much in TNA for a while, but they didn't really have many big names, so he was kinda carrying the company. Remember... K-Kwik was the champ for a while there.
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Not necessarily. Triple H doesn't get too much shit these days. Everyone knows he is a pretty great wrestler, I don't think I've ever argued otherwise. A lot of people treat Jarrett as if he should die in a hole somewhere.

Triple H bores the fuck out of me, to be honest, but I admit politics are the main reason he is disliked. He also "carried the company" when he shouldn't have been, etc. So yeah, they are similar.
The major difference, which almost nobody will argue, is that Triple H has the skills to be a great Main Eventer.

Jarrett as the top guy has almost always been a joke.
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The major difference, which almost nobody will argue, is that Triple H has the skills to be a great Main Eventer.

Jarrett as the top guy has almost always been a joke.
No doubt, but I've always secretly wondered why Jarrett was considered such a joke. He's had quite a respectable career, and can definitely wrestle.
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Old 03-25-2007, 07:01 PM   #27
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the thing with jerretts runs was he was the bigest name in the company at the time, there was no one to put the belt on at the time. there was alot of good young wrestlers at the time but they could not carry the company. now joe is built up they have sting cage and angle now they have people that can carry the belt.
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No doubt, but I've always secretly wondered why Jarrett was considered such a joke. He's had quite a respectable career, and can definitely wrestle.
To be honest, if he was a midcarder, I'd probably never complain. He'd decent, but he's not worth his career, if you catch my drift.
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Old 03-25-2007, 08:09 PM   #29
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the thing with jerretts runs was he was the bigest name in the company at the time, there was no one to put the belt on at the time. there was alot of good young wrestlers at the time but they could not carry the company. now joe is built up they have sting cage and angle now they have people that can carry the belt.
Yeah, except they had people like Rhino, who made for decent champions, and AJ Styles who I don't like, but who is synonymous with TNA and one of the main attractions. Instead, we have the dude who jobbed to Chyna holding place until we get two WWE rejects and a WCW hasbeen?

No, even if you want name value, there were worthwile people before Sting and Cage and Angle. And you can't say nobody was a worthwhile choice prior.
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Old 03-25-2007, 08:15 PM   #31
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two WWE rejects and a WCW hasbeen?
Ok I know the has-been, who is the rejects, and if you say Cage, and Angle, something went wrong there.
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Ok I know the has-been, who is the rejects, and if you say Cage, and Angle, something went wrong there.
Cage quit when he was dismissed as just a midcarder. Angle was FIRED from WWE.

I don't know what version of the word "reject" you're using, but castoffs who piss and moan about the hand that fed them for years...
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Jeff Jarrett's gimmick for a long time was a poor man's Ric Flair.

He wasn't that talented and the only success he's had in the business was because of who he knew.

Early days in Memphis, he got pushed hard because he's dad was booker.

His first stint in WWF was only because by that time everyone else worthwhile left so they needed a decent mid-card heel.

Then he jumped to WCW and did practically nothing.

Went back to WWF, befriended Vince Russo who was one of the top bookers and was given the IC Title mainly because of Owen's death.

Russo jumps to WCW, Jarrett follows suit and was given the WCW Title more than once.

WCW closed, formed TNA with his pops and ruled the land there.
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Old 03-25-2007, 08:51 PM   #34
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Can someone explain what's the deal with Jarrett? Why is he so disliked etc?

I haven't watched much TNA so don't know too much. I remember him from his time in WWF and WCW and thinking he was really good, but since TNA everyone seems to hate him?

Is he an asshole backstage or summit? Backstage politics?
Because he sucks and the STROKE is the worst finisher since the "Whoopie Cushion"
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To be honest, if he was a midcarder, I'd probably never complain. He'd decent, but he's not worth his career, if you catch my drift.
Yeah, I get what you're saying.

As I said earlier, I think it's the same deal with Xavier when he was in Ring of Honor. The performer isn't awful, they just aren't the most deserving guy of the status given to them(self).
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Jeff Jarrett's gimmick for a long time was a poor man's Ric Flair.

He wasn't that talented and the only success he's had in the business was because of who he knew.

Early days in Memphis, he got pushed hard because he's dad was booker.

His first stint in WWF was only because by that time everyone else worthwhile left so they needed a decent mid-card heel.

Then he jumped to WCW and did practically nothing.

Went back to WWF, befriended Vince Russo who was one of the top bookers and was given the IC Title mainly because of Owen's death.

Russo jumps to WCW, Jarrett follows suit and was given the WCW Title more than once.

WCW closed, formed TNA with his pops and ruled the land there.
TBH I've always hated him
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Old 03-26-2007, 09:31 AM   #37
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I've never like Jarrett, not since he first came to WWE. The country singer bit was lame and he never interested me in the ring. His first WCW stint was mildly interesting because of his work with the Horsemen, but he sort of drowned in the nWo goings on. His return run in the WWF was a bit better because he worked with more interesting guys, but come on, he made me mark out for X-PAC on several non-consecutive occasions. Back in WCW he went to crap as far as I was ever concerned, and he was one of their least interesting real-wrestler champions. In TNA he became the "chosen daddy's boy," and knowing that, his disinteresting, HHH-like behavior has led me to like him even less.

What's the running point here? Interest. The man simply has never had mine. And honestly, most of the people I talk to who dislike him feel the same way. He's not even a good heel, he's just a jerk. Not a cocky cowardly heel, or a cocky-but-can-back-it-up heel, just a jerk. To me that isn't even a gimmick, just an indication that he's so good at being a jerk that he probably is one. And the fact that he needed either highly-placed relationship to get to the top (a friend like Russo, and later his dad) hasn't done anything to endear him to me in the least.
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I will say, specifically, that I liked Jarrett as a midcarder. HE wasn't great, but he was solid. The problem is, regardless of the booking, he doesn't deserve to be on top.
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Don't watch TNA at all but I was/am a fan of Double J. Felt he was a good mid-carder and his career in WCW entertained me. I still wear my Don't Piss Me Off t-shirt proudly. But yeah, can understand why people would get bored of him running the main event. From what I understand, the problem was that he was the main event, much like HHH was for awhile. But as most of us were sick of HHH, things changed for the better and now most love him.
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