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Old 04-10-2007, 03:25 AM   #1
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The Championship Situation
This is my suggestion....

There are far too many championships in WWE right now. It must get downright confusing for casual/new fans. What makes it even worse is that the WWE, World and ECW World title are supposed to be of equal value (even though we all know they are not) and the names of the championships hardly differentiate one from the other.

This is how I would rectify this situation. I would unify the WWE, World and ECW World titles to form the "WWE World Heavyweight Championship". This would be the sole TOP championship in the company and would encompass all three brands. Basically, whoever is WWE World Heavyweight champion is champion of the entire WWE. Main event feuds will be kept fresh because challengers can be fed to the champion from all three brands.

I would elevate the Intercontinental championship to the number one belt on Raw. Maybe change the name to the 'WWE Raw Championship' to eliminate any stigma of the I-C belt being a 'second tier' title. This would be exclusive to Raw superstars only.

On the blue brand, I would elevate the U.S. Championship, rename it the 'WWE SmackDown Championship', much like the Raw Championship.

On ECW (which I would rename simply 'WWE Extreme'... if they are going to be treated as simply another brand, it shouldn't be named as though it is a different company) I would create the 'WWE Extreme Championship' which would also carry the stipulation that all title matches must be contested under Extreme Rules (kind of like the old Hardcore title, only it would be treated as much more prestigious).

The two tag team titles would be unified and the 'WWE World Tag Team Championship' will be exclusive to Raw. The Cruiserweight title will be exclusive to Extreme. The Women's title will be exclusive to SmackDown.

So... in short... the title scene would look like this...
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All three brands: WWE World Heavyweight Champion
Raw: WWE Raw Champion, WWE World Tag Team Champions
SmackDown: WWE SmackDown Champion, WWE Women's Champion
Extreme: WWE Extreme Champion, WWE Cruiserweight Champion
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Any thoughts?
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Old 04-10-2007, 03:48 AM   #2
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I don't like the renaming of the titles, but otherwise I really like the idea. I do understand your reasoning however, since the midcard titles haven't had credibility for years. However, proper booking is the way to go, a name change won't mean a damn if the booking is still shit.

I do think the Benoit/ MVP feud may be a step in the right direction, but we'll see.
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Old 04-10-2007, 03:51 AM   #3
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Renaming all the titles....

That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard anyone say about anything ever.
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As WWE does appear to be going for tri brand PPV's, and insist on having a show with pretty much every person who wears a belt involved, it does get confusing. I liked the original plan of the brand split when the champions "floated" between brands.

The best way to overcome is end the brand split, but have guys call a particular show "home" where they are contracted to wrestle at it, and any other appearance is a bonus. It is confusing to see so many different belts (with so little credibility).
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What about "Bobby Lashley is not only the greatest ever ECW Champion, but if he was in ECW back before it died he would have taken it all the way to the top".
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The only reason to rename the titles is so that the lineage of the I-C and US titles isn't lost, but the slate can also be wiped clean with regards to the positioning of the title.

With the WWE champion floating across three shows, the individual Raw, SmackDown and Extreme champions would become the focal point and most important exclusive wrestlers on their individual shows.

It is too easy, and a tired IWC cliche, to say "good booking is the answer". But wouldn't rejuvinating the I-C and US titles and clarifying the confusing title situation BE "good booking"? So essentially... there's no need to resort to good booking, when they could just solve anything with good booking???

In the words of Jim Cornette "it doesn't make any fucking sense".
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I'm a big fan of both the IC and US titles, but sometimes change works out for the better, no matter how sorry you are to see something go. Plus, those titles would become a much more important part of the show, held by top 5 wrestlers on the respective brands (rather than top 10, as it the case currently).
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End the brand split. Fire about 50 guys. Have the World, IC, Tag, Womans, Cruiser as the only titles.
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Old 04-10-2007, 05:24 AM   #10
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I don't like the renaming of the titles, but otherwise I really like the idea. I do understand your reasoning however, since the midcard titles haven't had credibility for years. However, proper booking is the way to go, a name change won't mean a damn if the booking is still shit.

I do think the Benoit/ MVP feud may be a step in the right direction, but we'll see.

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No, because with each passing week, the audience cares less and less about Benoit, because they have been given no reason to. That hurts the belt.

MVP may resurrect the belt. He could do to the US title what The Rock once did to the IC title. We'll see....
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I like the idea. One world Champ, 3 brand champs. Keep the name of IC and US but I do like it alot. Back in the day wasn't there 1 nwa world champ, who appeared at all territories who had their own champ?
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Old 04-10-2007, 06:46 PM   #14
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I agree that there should be one "undisputed" champ that roams between all shows. Especially if they are going to insist on having guys appear on all three shows and brand specific PPVs.

Not so taken with the whole WWE Raw / WWE SmackDown! Champs though. Wouldn't that just take us where we are now but with an extra belt slightly higher!?

IMO there should be:

One Champ appearing and fighting on all shows.

IC Champ on Raw
US Champ on SD!

You could even have these champs considered the No. 1 contenders to the top title for the most part. Imagine the icrossover storylines you could build with so many people vying for the one title.

1 Champ, 3 number one contenders (one for each show), your IC and US champs wanting a shot at the big one and even add in Mr Money in the Bank. It'd lead to a situation where the champ never got a rest whilst defending his title.

I think it'd help establish someone as a top champ if they had to fight off the interest of 5 or 6 other guys every week.



Anyways...

Cruiserweight and Women's Champ on SmackDown!

and Tag Titles on Raw.

Oh and I guess a TV title or something on ECW. (nearly forgot about ECW there!)
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Old 04-10-2007, 06:51 PM   #15
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The womens needs to stay on RAW and the tag could go to SD!. Other than that (and renaming the IC and US belts [why not just make them mean more?]) it's not a bad idea and probably needs to be done.
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Old 04-10-2007, 06:55 PM   #16
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The only real problem would be the pain in the ass travel the champion would go through trying to get from RAW to SD! every monday-tuesday.
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Old 04-10-2007, 07:29 PM   #17
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I guess that comes with the territory of being the top guy though.

I can't imagine anyone in the business that truly cares for it to turn down the chance of being the one top guy in the top company because he can't be arsed to travel extra. Hell, let tthe champ use the WWE jet.

Anyways they'd only have to do it for a couple of months or so.
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The womens needs to stay on RAW and the tag could go to SD!. Other than that (and renaming the IC and US belts [why not just make them mean more?]) it's not a bad idea and probably needs to be done.
Personally I was trying to balance it all out.

At the minute Cruiserweight and Women's title means jack shit (not that the Tag titles are much further ahead) so I kinda concluded that Tag tiles are equal to CW and Women's champ.

That way you'd have 3 people holding belts on both Raw and SD!.

Raw

IC Champ
1 Tag champ
Other Tag champ

SD!

US Champ
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Women's Champ.

So in my theory, if you kept the women on Raw you'd have to move the cruiserweights there too, and as the cruiserweights have always been "excusive" to SD! I didn't wanna do that.
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You are aware that when the brand split started thy DID only have one champ, until they realized how hard the travel was. You're aware of this, yeah?
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ECW is the place for misfits and shit they don't know what to do with - cruiser wieght title

Compare the last years worth of tag team fueds on RAW to SD! who can handle tag titles better? - SD! gets the tag

Who would benifit the most off of titties? - RAW
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Old 04-11-2007, 12:04 AM   #24
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Not so taken with the whole WWE Raw / WWE SmackDown! Champs though. Wouldn't that just take us where we are now but with an extra belt slightly higher!?

IMO there should be:

One Champ appearing and fighting on all shows.
IC Champ on Raw
US Champ on SD!
Exactly what I said, except the IC belt would be renamed the Raw belt, and the US belt would be renamed the SmackDown belt.
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You are aware that when the brand split started thy DID only have one champ, until they realized how hard the travel was. You're aware of this, yeah?
Uh... it was nothing to do with travel and more to do with feeling the need to showcase a champion on each brand in order to draw.

If it is such a huge deal to travel from Raw to SmackDown every week, how come Vince McMahon, the creative team, agents and officials all manage it? The champion could hop aboard the WWE jet, along with the others.
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The point is to build up the Raw and SmackDown championships as best they can to be drawing cards on their own, with the WWE World champion appearing on selected shows (probably touring with whichever brand is feeding him his next challenger ie. if his next opponent is Randy Orton, he will travel with the Raw crew on the road).

The Raw and SmackDown titles can be built up enough (by putting the belts on "name" wrestlers who are removed from the WWE World title picture, such as Shawn Michaels, Randy Orton, Batista, Rey Misterio) without giving the impression of a career comedown (by which I mean, fans should consider Orton the top guy on Raw should he hold the Raw title.... not just a second tier champion).

If they manage this, not only will winning the Raw championship mean much more than winning the IC title to a lower card guy who is on the rise and needs to get over as a major player, almost like winning the WWE World title, but the Raw and SmackDown belts will draw on their own.... essentially giving the WWE World Heavyweight champion a potentially REDUCED travel schedule, because they will be needed less to pull a crowd on house shows (assuming that the Raw and SmackDown belts get over being held by top 'World title' calibre guys).

Say John Cena is the first WWE World Heavyweight Champion. Now let's say Shawn Michaels and Edge are feuding over the Raw title. Batista and Rey Misterio are feuding over the SmackDown title (I'll keep ECW out of this as they don't need to draw on their own house shows anymore). While the Michaels/Edge feud is drawing on the Raw brand, Batista and Rey are drawing on the SmackDown brand, Cena doesn't neccessarily HAVE to work the show. If he does, a match vs Triple H or vs Undertaker on either show will be the cherry on the cake. Used sparingly, the WWE World heavyweight champion becomes a novelty attraction... the belt isn't over exposed and neither is the champion. In addition, the champion doesn't burn out or pick up nagging injuries through working every day.
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I'd..
a) Unify all the brands and Have one world title, the IC title, the tag titles and the women's and cruiserweight titles, as well as one other midcard title ranking below IC (Euro or TV).

b) Unify all 3 world championships, and both tag championships. Those would be split brand and appear on all 3 brands. As for brand exclusives, Raw would have the IC title and Women's. ECW would have the TV title and Harcore title. And Smackdown would have the US and Cruiserweight titles.
That way with 3 seperate brands you still have just as much, if not more to work with title wise, but there's 2 less titles. Then all the brands have larger pools of talent for the Main Event and Tag divisions which is needed.
The midcard and undercard titles exclusive to brands stay put and have plenty to work with, as well as having the option for Tag Title wrestling on all 3 brands without dividing the division completely.

or, what I'd prefer overall...

c) Unify Raw and Smackdown as 1 Brand. The WWE. Unify both World titles, Both sets of Tag Titles, and merge the US title into the IC title.
Then you have one solitary WWE with those titles, and 2 shows and a larger array of talent to work with. Keep the women's division, and maybe the cruiserweight division.

In any event, that would be the WWE. As for ECW, it'd be the second brand. Complete with the ECW Title, The TV title, and maybe even the cruiserweight division.

WWE:
WWE Championship
IC championship
World Tag Champions
European Champion
Women's champion.

ECW:
ECW Champion
TV Title
*possibly Cruiserweight (if moved from other brand to make way for Euro) or Hardcore title (for weekly extreme rules matches)

Also keep in mind, with the merger of Raw and SD as one brand with two shows, you have more talent with more time to build, but any excess talent can be sent to strengthen ECW and perhaps give them an extra 30 to 60 minutes.


With any of these plans, you're considerably improving the quality of the product. Whether it be a 1, 2, or 3 brand set up. You instantly increase fued possibilites, talent pool, and most importantly the clear status of World Champion(s).
In all these scenarios, the amount of active titles on WWE programming is lessened as well as done better.
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Whatever show doesn't have the Women's title IS going to have the worthless eye candy, so yeah, Ladies' belt on Raw.
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I like the idea of a WWE World Heavyweight Champion who floats between the brands. Maybe if they actually demanded something out of their World Champions, there wouldn't be so many shitty Champions? They were fine travelling back in the day, and they pretty much appear on every show now, anyway.

I don't think they can just have Vince get up and say "we're unifying Championships now." It would kind of be meaningless. I think the best way to do it is to have tension developed between respective Champions.

As World Tag Team Champions, Matt and Jeff Hardy could appear on both brands. When they're on SmackDown!, it's because Matt Hardy has commitments there; when they're on RAW, it's because Jeff Hardy anchors them over there. Basically both Jonathan Coachman and Theodore Long get booking over the World Tag Team Championship.

Paul London & Brian Kendrick get jealous that The Hardys are getting all this attention, so they begin to appear on ECW. There is no authority figure there, so let's just say they attack guys like Stevie Richards during filler matches, and then have "unlicensed" tag team matches for the WWE Tag Team Championship. Eventually Mick Foley is instated there as ECW General Manager, and he actually welcomes London & Kendrick to willingly defend the WWE Tag Team Championship on ECW television.

So in the tag team scene, you have The Hardys on RAW and SmackDown!; Paul London & Brian Kendrick on SmackDown! and ECW. You can even go as far as having Mick Foley split the ECW Tag Team Championship off from the WWE Tag Team Championship, and have London & Kendrick as dual-Champions on each brand.

The Hardys and London & Kendrick constantly try to upstage each other, which results in some memorable spots and what-not. The Hardys then challenge London & Kendrick to a Ladder Match for all the gold. The winners will be undisputed "WWE World Tag Team Champions".

This is running concurrently with a program where Vince McMahon decides that the best way to battle a Champion, is with a Champion. He announces a Title for Title Match between Bobby Lashley...and The Undertaker! The two work a pretty vicious big man match on a PPV, where Bobby Lashley actually defeats The Undertaker, and becomes the new World Heavyweight Championship. Vince McMahon can yell at The Undertaker, who proceeds to Tombstone Vince, so he can save face.

Vince decides that Lashley's life isn't through being a living Hell, and he announces that Bobby Lashley will defend both his World Championships against John Cena at the next show. Cena's WWE Title will be on the line, to force Cena into competing. As this will put all the World Championships into one party, it will be to decide who becomes the first-ever WWE World Heavyweight Champion. John Cena and Bobby Lashley work their Battle of the Supermen, which sees John Cena win when Vince costs Lashley the match. Cena probably won't turn heel, though.

The Intercontinental Champion and United States Champion can remain latched to RAW and SmackDown!, but Mick Foley could secure the occasion title defence against ECW competitors. The same goes for any title. I think the WWE should really loosen up, and take all the undercard Championships at their own merit, and have the guys show up on whichever show they want and defend.
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You dont' need the top guy appearing on both shows every week. Just when he's in a feud or something then he's basically only at that show. That feud ends, then another starts on the other show. Having the top guy on every show every week doesn't make sense.
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They have half of their top guys showing up every week anyways. Not to mention the PPVs being merged.
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By having the top guy NOT on every show, they can build up the brand championship even more.
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By having the top guy NOT on every show, they can build up the brand championship even more.
That's what I mean about adding novelty to the title. The belt and champion can be used more sparingly, with brand titles that are built up to be the top prize in the business, next to the WWE title. So the Raw and SmackDown belts are equally prestigious and the WWE title is the next level again. In seeing Cena (assuming he is the first WWE Champion) on a less regular basis, he becomes a special attraction. Makes him seem more important than he actually is. Remember in the 80s, you would rarely ever see Hogan work matches on TV. You had to PAY to see him wrestle. It made him seem extra special... and it could help the WWE's ailing PPV business.
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