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Old 06-10-2007, 12:17 PM   #1
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Okay here is a change...
We've got the "who did you hate at first, but now like" topic going. Well this one is the opposite. Who did you like at first, but now hate?

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Old 06-10-2007, 12:46 PM   #2
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Cena is the obvious choice.

Other than him... Carlito. When Carlito first came in he was a cocky, cool, "I'm gonna take your US Title, spit in your face, and stab you in a night club cause I'm a badass" type charactar. Now, after trying to be face for so long and making another bland heel turn, he just clearly isn't the same to me anymore.

Also, I'll bet everybody is going to say Orton. I still mark for Orton though.
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Old 06-10-2007, 01:27 PM   #3
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Cena...and im guessing this will be the name thats put down the most in this thread
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Old 06-10-2007, 01:55 PM   #4
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I never liked either one, I always thought Batista was just some juiced up weight lifter who consists of 5-7 moves, and well Cena just bores me.
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Old 06-10-2007, 02:09 PM   #5
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Batista. Right when he dropped the Deacon gimmick I was all on board for him. I saw some real star power...but somehow he's lost moves, become more sloppy, and is a general mess in the ring.

Eric Young. I don't hate him, but he is really starting to get lazy in my opinion and his always afraid of being fired is getting old.

AJ Styles. When he was Air Styles in WCW I really liked his style, and then when TNA first opened I was kind of disappointed they favored him over Lynn, but I was still kind of impressed now and again...but then nothing's changed. He hasn't added any new psych to his matches, infact he's taken a lot out. He use to sell things, now he just goes right back to flipping like the other X Spot Monkeys. God it's annoying.
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Old 06-10-2007, 02:12 PM   #6
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Though AJ is entertaining now that he's been taken under the wing of Christian, and you cant blame AJ, he's not exactly in a company where the guys know how to work a match, half dont even kno what their doing, and probably havsnt been shown how to properly work a match.
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Old 06-10-2007, 02:13 PM   #7
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New AJ Styles>Old AJ Styles.
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Old 06-10-2007, 02:15 PM   #8
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New AJ Styles>Old AJ Styles.
Air Styles > Christian's Bitch Styles > X-Division Pioneer Styles > NWA Champ Styles
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Old 06-10-2007, 02:17 PM   #9
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Batista. He was great as a bodyguard role, but he's essentially as terrible as say - Bull Buchanan? C'mon now.
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Old 06-10-2007, 02:18 PM   #10
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Styles always lacked personality, and who remembers him in WCW, he was their for 30 seconds, he finally seem to be developing a persona, something he should have done 5 years ago.
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And some other guy's who I'm not going to give reasons for and while I don't hate them, I certainly don't like watching them anymore...

Rhino
Carlito (I was really only sold on him for a couple months)
Chris Harris (never liked James Storm)
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Old 06-10-2007, 02:28 PM   #12
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Styles always lacked personality, and who remembers him in WCW, he was their for 30 seconds, he finally seem to be developing a persona, something he should have done 5 years ago.
Hey, I love Air Raid. Easily my favorite of the Cruiser Tag Teams. I always thought Styles had something to him that made him special...as it turned out, I was pretty wrong, but how was I suppose to know that after only a couple of matches in WCW...still, like I said, the best the WCW Cruiserweight Tag Team division had to offer.
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Old 06-10-2007, 02:29 PM   #13
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Cena, Batista, Edge, Jarrett, probably a lot more.
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Hey, I love Air Raid. Easily my favorite of the Cruiser Tag Teams. I always thought Styles had something to him that made him special...as it turned out, I was pretty wrong, but how was I suppose to know that after only a couple of matches in WCW...still, like I said, the best the WCW Cruiserweight Tag Team division had to offer.
Wait a minute, there was a WCW Cruiserweight Tag division? With real Titles and champions?
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Old 06-10-2007, 03:28 PM   #15
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Wait a minute, there was a WCW Cruiserweight Tag division? With real Titles and champions?
Yes. Shortly before WCW closed. Only had two champions. First Elix Skipper/Kid Romeo and then Billy Kidman/Rey Mysterio Jr.
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Old 06-10-2007, 04:10 PM   #16
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Old 06-10-2007, 04:42 PM   #17
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Yes. Shortly before WCW closed. Only had two champions. First Elix Skipper/Kid Romeo and then Billy Kidman/Rey Mysterio Jr.
It was an awesome concept, but not so great an idea for WCW to pull at the time.
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Old 06-10-2007, 04:54 PM   #18
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I seem to recall that there was 3-Man Tag Team Championship as well, right?
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What?! Are you serious? Christian in TNA is probably the best and most motivated I've seen him since the TLC era. I am LOVING CC in TNA. You're opinion though...

And whoever said HBK, please kill yourself now...
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That sounds about right. All if forgiven.
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It was an awesome concept, but not so great an idea for WCW to pull at the time.
If they did the Cruiser Tag division around 98 or so, it would have been great. I agree by the time their doors were closing most of their top cruisers had become bland and the new ones were all pretty weak. Never the less, I appreciated them at least TRYING to keep things fresh or exciting...even if it was doomed to be short lived due to the company closing.

I wonder if Rey and Billy still have the physical title belts. I'd imagine they would...
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I really thought that after he won the belt at Wrestlemania 21, he might be worthy to PROVE he could make a good champion. Then they turned him into superman. It's awful. The more he wins, the less credible he seems.
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Bobby Lashley- On Smackdown, his feud with Finlay was tremendous. Now, Lashley is a bland, boring Black Lesner.

Carlito- I was a mark for the guy during this first run as heel. Then he turned face and was watered down a lot. His second heel run is just uninspiring.
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Old 06-10-2007, 09:51 PM   #33
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I'd say Lashley but I was never into him
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Old 06-11-2007, 12:11 AM   #34
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Batista - pretty sweet in Evolution. Now it seems like he just doesn't care anymore.

Lashley - Not that I liekd him a lot, but when he was on Smackdown, his feud with FInlay was really good and he showed a lot of potential. Now, usually, I don't enjoy him in the ring. He does still have some good matches, but they don't seem to be too frequent.

Carlito - I didn't like the guy at first, but then he started to grow on me and I eventually liked him. Now I just don't find him entertaining.

BG James (Road Dogg) - I LOVED him in DX. Pretty much after that he's been pretty terrible. I really hate him in TNA, though he cut a sweet ass promo in Impact about two weeks ago. I still don't like him.

Kip James (Billy Gunn) - Like Road Dogg, I LOVED him in DX. DX split, but I still liked him while he was still in WWE. I really hate him in TNA.

Team 3D - Pretty sweet in ECW and WWE. All they do is bitch about WWE and not wrestle in TNA... that doesn't entertain me. Even the fact that they just wear their regular clothes in the ring bugs me. It's a shame because I really did like them.

Fallen Angel Christpher Daniels - As of right now I don't like the guy. I don't get this shit with Sting. Whatever it is, they're not even half assing it. BOOOORING. Once this shit is dropped, and he's back to wrestling regularly I'll probably like him again.

Raven - Only lately I haven't liked him. He's really not doing much of anything. Seratonin is shit, and maybe Raven knows that. I don't know, but it's shit.

Fuck, TNA really is pretty bad when I look over this list. I wonder if TNA management itself has a lot to do with it.
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Old 06-11-2007, 12:31 AM   #35
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Fuck, I'll agree with most of Dorkchop's list and say almost anyone in TNA who was in WWE or WCW or ECW. My exceptions are Cage, Angle, and Sting, who are the only things I truly care about on TNA anymore.

And Daniels, one of the few guys who didn't suck ass and wasn't really playing a WWE reject role, has gone totally ass up.
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Old 06-11-2007, 05:26 AM   #37
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Dorkchop has a pretty good list, and a few of the guys on it I really agree with.

I used to like John Cena back when he was wearing the bi-coloured tights. Back when he was a bland technical guy working with Kurt Angle and Chris Jericho in SmackDown!'s early days. When he adopted the rapper gimmick, Australia didn't get SmackDown!, so I just trusted that he was on the rise. By the time I actually got SmackDown!, I began to sour on Cena. Around the time of his feud with Booker T over the United States Championship I gave up trying to get behind the guy, and I was 100% on Carlito's side during their feud, and wanted to see Jesus beat him in the Street Fight at Armageddon 2004. I was also rooting for JBL at WrestleMania 21.

Speaking of Carlito, he is another guy I used to really like back when he debuted. He actually got a fun match out of John Cena in his debut. He has never really gotten great treatment by the WWE, as they mishandled his injured status back when they aborted his United States Title reign. Personally, I would have gone with Jesus defending the Title for Carlito until The Cool One could get back on his feet. When he moved to RAW, I still really dug the guy, but since New Year's Revolution 2005, he's really been on a downward spiral. In the draft, I'd love to see him go over to ECW and feud with Bobby Lashley over the ECW World Championship. I think he could get some great matches out of Bobby, and could bump like shit for him.

Continuing the change, Bobby Lashley is another guy who deserves a place on the list. Back when he was working matches on SmackDown!, I really liked the guy. Since they've turned him into a bland babyface, it's been hard to get into the guy. He needs to get into feuds with some slimey heels like Carlito and Elijah Burke. If not, they need to have him turn heel and become kind of a smart corporate suck-up type. The soft way he talks, and the educated language he can apparantly use would play well into an MVP-type character. Not something exactly the same, of course, just someone who wants to make the stock holders happy.

Batista used to be the guy in the WWE. Back when he was saying just what he needed to, and saying it well, and Powerbombing Triple H through tables. He was about 100x better than John Cena. Now, I'd honestly take Cena. The guy needs to get some edge back, and I think a move to RAW would help him with that. Give him his heel personality back. Batista was never a "babyface", he was just a heel who turned on the other heels. A weapon that broke free of their control, and opened fire back on them. If Randy Orton stays on RAW, and Batista is sent over there, I think a union between the two would be the logical direction to take both their characters, and I think I could get back into both of them.

Billy Gunn used to be one of my favourite wrestlers. I'm not going to say much, other than "Kip James" is not. Seriously, this Voodoo Kin Mafia thing needs to end. End them, Doug Basham! End them!

Raven was someone I would have skimmed past, but I agree with Dorkchop on that one. I think this Serotonin thing needs to end, and have Kaz go back to being Franke Kazarian, have Maz (or whatever the fuck he is called) go back to being Matt Bentley, and have Havok go back to being Johnny Devine. Kazarian and Bentley would help out the X-Division greatly, and Johnny Devine could team with either Eric Young or Bobby Roode, and help the tag division out. Raven should replace Don West as TNA's colour commentator.
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