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Old 06-26-2007, 06:03 PM   #1001
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As for the "realism" of this, this is probably the first time I've literally felt sick at what someone did. There have been more heinous things that I've read about, but I've never felt physically ill about what someone did. I suppose following Benoit for 10+ years and THINKING I know at least his basic fundamentals really hit me hard.
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That press conference really hit me like a ton of bricks.
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Old 06-26-2007, 06:07 PM   #1003
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What made me cringe was when they said Nancy was tied up. That felt like a damn punch to the gut, and it was the kind that pisses you off more than hurts you.
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Old 06-26-2007, 06:10 PM   #1004
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Yeah man, same here. I am completely disgusted. I liked Chris so much, I dunno how I feel anymore. I think he's a sick fuck now actually, I can't see him in the same light. All the accomplishments, all the hard work, all the times I marked out for him, don't mean shit to me anymore. If he couldn't take it, he coulda killed himself, and not take his 7 YEAR OLD kid and his wife with him. Take time off WWE, Get some help, but for fuck's sake, don't murder your family. What's really sick is that he killed Nancy, and then Daniel the next day, and then he commited suicide. What kind of cold blooded sick fuck could do that?! So disgusted right now.
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It really seems as if WWE is acting like he never existed now. I was even looking through some of the other dvd's on shopzone, and his name has been removed from almost everything. Even on WM 23, Benoit/MVP is not in the match listings.

For me, it really takes a week or 2 to sink in knowing he's not going to be around every week. Now even though i'm disgusted by what he did, especially killing his defenseless son, I don't want to pass complete judgment until I hear why he would do this.

WWE programming should be interesting tonight and Friday. I'm really interested to hear how the live crowd is going to react now.
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I'm reposting this because it was at the end of the last page and people will likely miss it. From WWE.com.

STAMFORD, Conn., June 26, 2007 – World Wrestling Entertainment is stunned and saddened by the details released by local authorities concerning the double homicide-suicide involving Chris Benoit, his wife, Nancy, and his son, Daniel.

However, WWE is concerned with the sensationalistic reporting and speculation being undertaken by some members of the media following the press conference held by the Fayette County Sheriff’s Department and the District Attorney. During the press conference, the investigating authorities made the following points, all of which run contrary to the media speculation that "roid rage" was a factor in the senseless murders and suicide:

1. The authorities stated that all drugs found in the house were believed to be legal prescriptions.

2. Steroids were not, and could not, be related to the cause of death (asphyxiation). Authorities had no factual basis to speculate as to Benoit’s state of mind, and rightly did not do so.

3. Toxicology tests have not even been completed, so there is no current evidence that Benoit even had steroids or any other substance in his body. In that regard, on the last test done on Benoit by WWE's independently administered drug testing program, done on April 10, 2007, Benoit tested negative.

4. The physical findings announced by authorities indicate deliberation, not rage. The wife's feet and hands were bound and she was asphyxiated, not beaten to death. By the account of the authorities, there were substantial periods of time between the death of the wife and the death of the son, again suggesting deliberate thought, not rage. The presence of a Bible by each is also not an act of rage.

5. WWE strongly suggests that it is entirely wrong for speculators to suggest that steroids had anything to do with these senseless acts, especially when the authorities plainly stated there is no evidence that Benoit had steroids in his body, pending the toxicological reports, and that they had no evidence at this time as to the motive for these acts.

WWE is continuing to monitor the ongoing investigation being conducted by local authorities.
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It really seems as if WWE is acting like he never existed now. I was even looking through some of the other dvd's on shopzone, and his name has been removed from almost everything. Even on WM 23, Benoit/MVP is not in the match listings.

For me, it really takes a week or 2 to sink in knowing he's not going to be around every week. Now even though i'm disgusted by what he did, especially killing his defenseless son, I don't want to pass complete judgment until I hear why he would do this.

WWE programming should be interesting tonight and Friday. I'm really interested to hear how the live crowd is going to react now.
What kind of "reasoing" would it take for you to think what Benoit did was OKAY?

That he and his family was being held hostage by a super stealth group of Ninjas that gave Benoit a choice of killing his own family or being brutally killed via the Ninja's stars? So in a moment of panic, he killed his wife and son so the Ninja's left peacefully. Benoit seeing what he did, killed himself because the pain was unbareable.

Would that be a good reason?
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Old 06-26-2007, 06:19 PM   #1009
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I don't believe there is a good reason for why all of this happened. I just think that something happened to him, and he is not this monster that many have painted him out to be. Even most tv reports are saying that he regretted what happened and took his own life.
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Old 06-26-2007, 06:20 PM   #1010
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Maybe he was a selfish bastard who didnt wanna live anymore, and felt that his wife and kid shouldnt either.
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Old 06-26-2007, 06:22 PM   #1011
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Wow

I'm pretty certain that this is a first. On Sky Sports News, they actually have a heading saying: 'Wrestling Headlines' coming up across the screen.

Surreal.
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Old 06-26-2007, 06:22 PM   #1012
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You just have to wonder at what level of mentality the guy was at to kill his own son.

What gets me is that Nancy apparently filed for divorce in 2003, but it was 'thrown out' by a judge. Not being from US waters, what the hell justification is there over there to refuse a divorce? In this day and age?

Also, the past-tense/present-tense line has been hugely smudged by these events.
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Old 06-26-2007, 06:23 PM   #1013
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Well we know he was a selfish bastard and a peice of shit, we just don't know the exact reasoning or motive if any...
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You just have to wonder at what level of mentality the guy was at to kill his own son.

What gets me is that Nancy apparently filed for divorce in 2003, but it was 'thrown out' by a judge. Not being from US waters, what the hell justification is there over there to refuse a divorce? In this day and age?

Also, the past-tense/present-tense line has been hugely smudged by these events.
It wasn't thrown out. It was reconciled and she retracted it.
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Old 06-26-2007, 06:27 PM   #1015
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Well we know he was a selfish bastard and a peice of shit, we just don't know the exact reasoning or motive if any...
We'll never know the reasoning. Not that I'd want to.

Just goes to show that having it all - the big house, the money, the adulation of peers and fans, the respect of pretty much everyone in the history of the business and an apparently secure future means shit.
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It wasn't thrown out. It was reconciled and she retracted it.
I read on Wrestleview that one of the police said that it was thrown out. Fair enough if that is the case.
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Old 06-26-2007, 06:28 PM   #1017
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Is possible that nancy was bound by the hand and feet and her and Chris where having really rough sex where he'd like put a bag over her head or just plain choke and he accidently took it to far and then went to his sons room and cried and accidently put a pillow on his face and fell asleep?
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Is possible that nancy was bound by the hand and feet and her and Chris where having really rough sex where he'd like put a bag over her head or just plain choke and he accidently took it to far and then went to his sons room and cried and accidently put a pillow on his face and fell asleep?
I guess that would explain the "Silent, but Violent" line in WCW.
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When asked about domestic abuse, Ballard stated that divorce papers were filed in 2003 by Nancy, but were later dismissed by a judge.
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Wow

I'm pretty certain that this is a first. On Sky Sports News, they actually have a heading saying: 'Wrestling Headlines' coming up across the screen.

Surreal.
Yeah it's reported on BBC Teletext. In the world news section I believe.

Last time wrestling was covered like this was with Owen's death.
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Man this is rough,

I'm really conflicted about this.

Just trying to think how I would react if this were a family member who had done this, I just can't get my head around it all.

Benoit will always be known as one hell of a wrestler, but a shit bag of a human being, it's such a shame. Such a dam shame
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Old 06-26-2007, 06:37 PM   #1022
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I have come to this conclusion long ago:

I respected Benoit the wrestler, and I still do.

I disliked Benoit the human being. I am torn between what the fuck and how?

What happened was fucked up. I'll leave it at that for now.
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Is possible that nancy was bound by the hand and feet and her and Chris where having really rough sex where he'd like put a bag over her head or just plain choke and he accidently took it to far and then went to his sons room and cried and accidently put a pillow on his face and fell asleep?
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I know ECW stars are encouraged to take things to the extreme, but Benoit went a little overboard here.
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I know ECW stars are encouraged to take things to the extreme, but Benoit went a little overboard here.
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So I decided to watch Raw from last night. Got through the JBL/Cole thing...chilling how the talk about Benoit being a family man that was all about his kids.
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I found these on 1wrestling.com, not seen these posted yet:

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WARNING SIGNS THAT SOMETHING WAS WRONG WITH CHRIS BENOIT
By: Bob Ryder
6/26/2007 5:08:55 PM


In speaking with close friends and confidants of Chris Benoit contacted this afternoon, apparently there were some warning signs that something was wrong with Benoit.

Some of the information learned by 1Wrestling.com by colleagues and friends that did not want to be quoted:
"This wasn't roid rage, this was insanity. Roid rage doesn't last for 48 hours. There were signs that something was wrong. Stories have emerged that a year ago he became paranoid and believed he was being followed. He wouldn't let Nancy leave the house because he believed someone was out to get them."

“Chris hated religion. He didn't believe in it. I cannot comprehend him putting bibles by the bodies. I am shocked.”

In addition, 1Wrestling has learned that sources close to Nancy are reporting that she had a safety deposit box with evidence of past rages and that authorities should check the box if anything ever happened to her.
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CONTENTS OF ONE OF THE TEXT MESSAGES SENT BY BENOIT
By: Bob Ryder
6/26/2007 6:43:46 PM


1Wrestling.com has learned through several sources that one of the text messages sent by Chris Benoit early Sunday morning said "back door open, dogs have been fed". This message, along with others received over the weekend, caused WWE officials to alert authorities and to ask them to go to the Benoit residence to investigate.
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Old 06-26-2007, 06:48 PM   #1028
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Premeditated or not, the guy was sick. Wonder if anyone noticed. I mean, for all the people who will talk about how great he was, did any of them know him enough to know something was wrong? This didn't happen overnight. You don't just become a methodical, coldhearted bastard in a weekend.
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Old 06-26-2007, 06:50 PM   #1029
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Shit. I was typing before that was posted. Looks like people DID know something was wrong. So why did it wait a year, until he KILLED HIS FAMILY AND HIMSELF?
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Old 06-26-2007, 06:52 PM   #1030
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These are obviously actions of a man not his right mind.
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Old 06-26-2007, 06:54 PM   #1031
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Shit. I was typing before that was posted. Looks like people DID know something was wrong. So why did it wait a year, until he KILLED HIS FAMILY AND HIMSELF?
Yeah, if that was true why the fuck wasn't he told to get some help or something. An intervention or anything. Just completly fucked up.
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Old 06-26-2007, 06:55 PM   #1032
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But isn't this always the case with wrestling tragedies? They could have obviously been prevented, but never are.
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Old 06-26-2007, 06:56 PM   #1033
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Because they needed somebody to carry ECW, duh.
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So there were obvious signs of mental health issues, the fact that he is a private person and some what anti-social would also help hide them.
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Any tragedy could have been prevented in hindsight. I don't think anybody was expecting this to happen.
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I was going to stay away from this thread, but felt the need to post one last thing.

For a long time today, I've been waiting for news that just hasn't come, saying that there was foul play outside the home involved, or that somehow Benoit had not murdered the both of them, or anything. ANYTHING that would take the blame off of him. The sad fact is, it hasn't come.

There was no outside influence. No tire tracks. No signs of forced entry. His german shepherds were outside, fenced in the yard. 'No one' got in, or came out. Chris Benoit has done this, and yes, you cannot be sure until all the evidence is finalized, but admittedly, it does not look good, for anyone still clinging to any wish that they want to find some 'out.'

I've been thinking about this alot for the last day, and only in the last couple of hours has it really sunk in. I'm washing my hands of it. No matter what happens, God have mercy on all of them, and frankly, I still can't wrap my mind around this.

This is a tragedy for all the families involved, friends, and the WWE. Who knows what the fallout will be, but the WWE has handled this situation flawlessly and with class, as far as I'm concerned. I wish it could have happened some other way.
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Old 06-26-2007, 07:02 PM   #1037
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After some of your posts, you should know this more than anyone.

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Well of course, but obviously the WWE wasn't seeing it that way.
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Old 06-26-2007, 07:08 PM   #1039
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I'm probably just in denial, but I can't bring myself to lose respect for Benoit right now.

I firmly believe that something took control of him, be it mental disease or anything else, and made him do it.

Sounds like I'm looking for excuses, and I probably am.

I refuse to condemn the man, when I don't believe he was of sound mind.
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After seeing that Text Message this is what I would like to believe....

Benoit hired someone to kill his wife....things got out of hand and the guy had to kill his child...Beniot comes home and discovers what happened...cant live with it....Kills himself...

Sadly I doubt that any of that works with what happened and I really havnt accepted the other scenario yet....im afraid to accept it
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