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Old 06-27-2007, 08:42 PM   #81
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So who is the murderer we re-elected?
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Old 06-27-2007, 08:44 PM   #82
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Or we see a commonality of a serious question being met with a stupid response.
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Old 06-27-2007, 08:49 PM   #83
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So who is the murderer we re-elected?
I think George Washington killed people when he was a soldier.
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Old 06-27-2007, 08:53 PM   #84
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I think George Washington killed people when he was a soldier.
So soldiers are by default murderers?
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Old 06-27-2007, 09:59 PM   #85
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He was never a real draw. He had no mic skills, he had no charisma. He was a great technical wrestler that wrestling promotions let get wins and titles. Remember, this stuff is scripted and to list his accomplishments is something of a joke when you think about it. The WWE hall of fame is nothing more than a marketing thing anyway and as such it's bad marketing to include a guy that the world knows is a killer.
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Old 06-27-2007, 10:59 PM   #86
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He was never a real draw. He had no mic skills, he had no charisma. He was a great technical wrestler that wrestling promotions let get wins and titles. Remember, this stuff is scripted and to list his accomplishments is something of a joke when you think about it. The WWE hall of fame is nothing more than a marketing thing anyway and as such it's bad marketing to include a guy that the world knows is a killer.
Well, there's the first good point I've heard yet...

you're right... titles held has nothing to do with this... it's scripted... Now, you could argue promoters and maybe refs for years served and interviewers and announcers...

but actual wrestlers, that's a good point...

yeah, I change my vote... it's based of marketing... he doesn't go in... based on it's not due to wrestling wins/titles... it's popularity and marketing.
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Old 06-27-2007, 11:15 PM   #87
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I posted earlier no. But I do have an interesting point to bring out.

Jimmy Snuka is a HOF, and he was accused of beating many women including killing his GF in 1983, while no charges happened many feel that he did do it and he lost his chance to get a I-C title reign and a possible World Title reign.
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Old 06-27-2007, 11:17 PM   #88
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Another reason why I think not is the things WWE is doing, like pulling off all his merchendise and completly removing his name from all DVD descripitions and match listings.
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Old 06-27-2007, 11:17 PM   #89
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Well, there's the first good point I've heard yet...

you're right... titles held has nothing to do with this... it's scripted... Now, you could argue promoters and maybe refs for years served and interviewers and announcers...

but actual wrestlers, that's a good point...

yeah, I change my vote... it's based of marketing... he doesn't go in... based on it's not due to wrestling wins/titles... it's popularity and marketing.
Then this brings up another point, should he be put into the Pro Wrestling Hall of Fame or something similar?
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Old 06-27-2007, 11:22 PM   #90
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Hey, lets all build a gold statue of hitler, and honor him in regards to the effectiveness in which he had all those jews killed.
Nah he wasn't effective enough at that, their are still some of us left, that and he didn't take over the world.

Benoit > Hitler
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Old 06-27-2007, 11:23 PM   #91
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Okay, what Benoit did was sick beyond words, but how could anyone compare him to fucking HITLER!?
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Old 06-27-2007, 11:30 PM   #92
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I think once WWE does another "Who Killed Vince" angle and proves to society once and for all that murder is cool, Benoit will be a shoe in.
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Old 06-28-2007, 01:45 AM   #93
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Okay, what Benoit did was sick beyond words, but how could anyone compare him to fucking HITLER!?
German Suplexes, asshat.



But yeah. I had no idea that a pro wrestler's job description included killing millions. I thought the worst you had to do was dissapear a dead hooker from Ben Affleck Vince McMahon's trailer.
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Old 06-28-2007, 08:53 AM   #94
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Hang on a second, if the HoF is based on character etc, Eddie Guerrero died due to a legacy of drug abuse. Long-term too, not just a dabble here and there. Yeah yeah, he recovered and saved himself, but that changes nothing.
So you don't believe in redemption or forgiveness of any kind?
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Old 06-28-2007, 09:14 AM   #95
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I would induct him, the wrestler chris benoit fully deserves to go into sports entertainment's hall of fame.
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Old 06-28-2007, 09:33 AM   #96
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Chris Benoit with out a doubt needs to be in the hof. Regardless of his personal life.
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Old 06-28-2007, 10:08 AM   #97
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So you don't believe in redemption or forgiveness of any kind?
I don't think that was his point. People are saying Benoit doesn't deserve to be in because of what he did offscreen, which is horrific and would keep him out the a real HoF. You know, like drugs. Lots of drugs.

Yup. So if we're going based on character and actions, Eddie deserves to not be there.
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Old 06-28-2007, 10:13 AM   #98
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Taking drugs = as bad a murder now
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Old 06-28-2007, 10:18 AM   #99
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I don't think that was his point. People are saying Benoit doesn't deserve to be in because of what he did offscreen, which is horrific and would keep him out the a real HoF. You know, like drugs. Lots of drugs.

Yup. So if we're going based on character and actions, Eddie deserves to not be there.
See, I don't agree with that. Because it's also part of Eddie's character that he stopped himself, he did what he could to correct his mistakes and reconcile with his family and friends, the people he hurt, etc. The shame of it was that the toll that had been taken on his body was too much to really overcome. But as far as character goes, Eddie eventually changed and did the right thing, and that is why he deserves to be there based on character.
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Yes, from a wrestling standpoint, Benoit should absolutely be inducted into the HOF.

HOWEVER, it certainly cannot be next year, or else it would seem really bad. Wait till a few years down the road, then when you do induct him, mention ONLY his wrestling career.
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Then this brings up another point, should he be put into the Pro Wrestling Hall of Fame or something similar?
You never know but I can't see him going in that.

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Age and Experience Requirements:
"To be eligible for induction into the Professional Wrestling Hall of Fame (PWHF), certain criteria must be met as follows:
1. Any candidate must be deceased, or if living, must be at least 50 years of age. (Yes)

2. Any candidate must have at least 20 years in the professional wrestling business unless their career has been shortened by injury, illness, or death. (Yes)

Additional Criteria to be Considered where applicable:
For eligibility into the PWHF, the following additional criteria regarding each candidate will be considered:
3. Ability, Achievement, and overall credentials in the field of professional wrestling. (Yes)

4. Performance skills. (Yes)

5. Participation in the sport at large. (I would say yes)

6. Contribution to society outside of the wrestling profession. (No idea)

7. Moral character and personal integrity. (A week ago, yes. Now... this would be the one that would stop him from getting in)
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Old 06-28-2007, 10:47 AM   #102
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Taking drugs = as bad a murder now
Yes, obviously. It's certainly not retarded to say that.

Fuck's sake, Hero. You know better than the last five fucking morons who said that.
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Old 06-28-2007, 10:51 AM   #103
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See, I don't agree with that. Because it's also part of Eddie's character that he stopped himself, he did what he could to correct his mistakes and reconcile with his family and friends, the people he hurt, etc. The shame of it was that the toll that had been taken on his body was too much to really overcome. But as far as character goes, Eddie eventually changed and did the right thing, and that is why he deserves to be there based on character.
He corrected himself after hitting rock bottom, with the support and help of friends. Benoit was left to the wolves both before and after the incident.

Eddie Eventually changed after a lot of hurt and a lot of damage, and BEnoit never had that chance.

Eddie's choices would have left him out of a reputable hall of fame in a real sport. So again, for the mentally handicapped, if we're going to make the statement that Benoit shouldn't be in because he wouldn't be in a real HoF, let's not be hypocritical and justify a drug abuser.

Cue yet again some fucktard saying "So doing drugs are as bad as killing people?"
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He corrected himself after hitting rock bottom, with the support and help of friends. Benoit was left to the wolves both before and after the incident.

Eddie Eventually changed after a lot of hurt and a lot of damage, and BEnoit never had that chance.

Eddie's choices would have left him out of a reputable hall of fame in a real sport. So again, for the mentally handicapped, if we're going to make the statement that Benoit shouldn't be in because he wouldn't be in a real HoF, let's not be hypocritical and justify a drug abuser.

Cue yet again some fucktard saying "So doing drugs are as bad as killing people?"
Yeah, I guess I can see where you're at with that.

Not the drugs/murder thing, but, you know, the intelligent thing.
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Old 06-28-2007, 11:26 AM   #105
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If Vince/Steph/Shane/HHH thought they could make money, he'd be in there tomorrow. But public sentiment is against that right now, so unless that changes, Benoit won't go in.
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So soldiers are by default murderers?
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Old 06-28-2007, 02:07 PM   #108
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Just checking. In that case, we are a fucking sick country.
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Old 06-28-2007, 09:43 PM   #109
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Kane, you're implying it.
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Old 06-28-2007, 10:24 PM   #110
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Ya know, it sucks that three people died, and it's sad that one of them was a children, but I've been saying it's a fucking sick country for YEARS now.
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No, people that kill their families and then kill themselves need to be inducted into the Hall of People That Killed Their Families and Then Killed Themselves.
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Here's my take (and I haven't read the whole thread, so forgive me if I'm copying your answer):

I want to see the aftermath first. I answered "no," because at the moment, what he did is a tremendous black eye to the sport. He was a phenomenal performer, but his actions this weekend have put such a cloud over professional wrestling that it may never recover. This is the same reason I don't believe Mark McGwire shouldn't go into the Hall of Fame. He brought attention back to the game... but not all of it was for the right reason.

Now, if down the line it turns out that Benoit's death causes actual federally-observed drug tests and Vince (or someone) providing for psychiatric evaluations... Something that could actually prevent something like this (or Eddie or Pillman or Hennig...) from happening again? If that's the case then - by committing an unbelievably heinous act - Chris Benoit may actually save professional wrestling. In which case, put him in immediately.

As a sheer performer, I'd say he absolutely deserves in. But considering the fact that the WWE Hall of Fame is an imaginary place anyway, I can understand WWE not wanting to put him in a positive light given the circumstances.
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