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Old 11-23-2007, 05:42 PM   #1
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So why does everyone hate Coheed and Cambria
So I never heard C & C before rock band. All the reviews seemed to make fun and complain that they were in the game, so I wasn't looking forward to playing it when the time came.

But after playing, I have to say it was pretty freaking good. I mean is this just one song thats good and the rest are terrible? Because Welcome Home is a pretty good song imo.

I guess if its the vocals, I can understand, as he sounds pretty ridiculous at times, but the fretwork is really fun to listen to.

So whats the deal here?

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Old 11-23-2007, 05:44 PM   #2
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Maybe its because the song had an "epic" feel to it.

I'm a sucker for that slow building epic stuff.
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Old 11-23-2007, 05:56 PM   #3
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Huh?

Who hates Coheed, tell me where they live and I'll sort them out.
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Old 11-23-2007, 06:50 PM   #4
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Going to see them play an acoustic set in December
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Old 11-23-2007, 07:55 PM   #5
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Nah I love Coheed. Seen them live multiple times. Always impressed with the shit they do.
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Old 11-23-2007, 08:13 PM   #6
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A lot of people hate them simply because they're "emo."

They're a decent act, a bit pretentious, but more entertaining than most of thei kin.
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Old 11-23-2007, 08:19 PM   #7
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Coheed aren't emo :P
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Old 11-23-2007, 08:33 PM   #9
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Coheed are essentially prog rock (which is weird, since they're considered "prog" despite the gratuitous use of a lot of older-style metal sounds ), who briefly had emo leanings around Second Stage Turbine Blade (which grew less and less noticeable/prominent with each album). Although that is easily their best CD, their follow up stuff has all been really solid, if somewhat self-indulgent at times. Still, I saw them live just after they released the first Good Apollo, and holy Christ, they were amazing.

And I Claudio. His voice is incredible, and, if anything, gives Coheed an extra dimension of uniqueness over every gruff voiced metal act.
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Old 11-23-2007, 08:35 PM   #10
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You did not just call them metal.
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Hey mitch, weren't you the one who ranted at me for being against Emo but listening to C&C?
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No, I didn't. I said that they were prog rock who utilise some elements of '80s metal. And you'll notice in my final sentence the absence of the word "other" between "every" and "gruff", meaning that I wasn't grouping them in there, either.

So no, Tapiwa. I did not just call them metal.
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Hey mitch, weren't you the one who ranted at me for being against Emo but listening to C&C?
Hey, KK, wasn't I like, 16 at the time? Wow, you're so relevant. And at the time, Coheed were being grouped in with the emo set. So let's not turn this into a "how fast can KK dig up the hatchet" thing, okay?
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No, I didn't. I said that they were prog rock who utilise some elements of '80s metal. And you'll notice in my final sentence the absence of the word "other" between "every" and "gruff", meaning that I wasn't grouping them in there, either.

So no, Tapiwa. I did not just call them metal.
Ok, sweet.
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I don't know anyone that hates Coheed and Cambria because they are glorious.
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Old 11-24-2007, 08:48 AM   #16
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Old 11-24-2007, 11:32 AM   #17
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I Coheed and Cambria. They put on an amazing live show.
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Old 11-24-2007, 11:48 AM   #18
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How are they emo?
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I think a lot of that has to do with his voice. At least that's what people I know tell me. "God, he's got such a whiny, pussy, emo voice." I don't see it. And like Mitch said, their first album does have a few songs with some emo leanings (I guess), but everything after has been pretty far from it.
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They definitely have a metal influence. They aren't a metal band, but some of the riffs (as Mitch said) are in the style of old school metal.
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Hey, KK, wasn't I like, 16 at the time? Wow, you're so relevant. And at the time, Coheed were being grouped in with the emo set. So let's not turn this into a "how fast can KK dig up the hatchet" thing, okay?
Wow. didn't know it was such an old "war wound" with you.
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I think a lot of that has to do with his voice. At least that's what people I know tell me. "God, he's got such a whiny, pussy, emo voice." I don't see it. And like Mitch said, their first album does have a few songs with some emo leanings (I guess), but everything after has been pretty far from it.
I'm so god damn sick and tired of the ever changing definition o emo. It's not even a real genre ffs. If there is an ax being shredded, badass percussion, and no celine dion to be found, then its fucking rock. End of story.
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Old 11-24-2007, 02:11 PM   #23
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It seems that emo is more defined by the look than it is by the music anyway. If a lot of people that look emo listen to a band, then they must be an emo band. Whatever.
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Also, if you haven't listened to much Co&Ca check out the song "In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3" and "The Crowing" off of In Keeping Secrets of Silent Earth: 3. Or just check out that whole album.
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I'm a completist, so if every album is part of an ongoing saga, I'll prolly get everything.
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That's the way to do it. Those songs have some pretty epic build-ups.
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Old 11-24-2007, 03:32 PM   #29
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It seems that emo is more defined by the look than it is by the music anyway. If a lot of people that look emo listen to a band, then they must be an emo band. Whatever.
Yeah, it has nothing to do with the sound or the content.
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Old 11-24-2007, 03:39 PM   #30
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A kid that I work told me that he "hated this fucking emo music" when he got in my car and heard Nick Drake playing. And all of his friends are equally retarded. By that logic, anything that sounds remotely sad is emo. As far as I know, that isn't the case.

I guess I just lost track of what is/isn't considered emo because I don't care.
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Old 11-26-2007, 01:06 AM   #31
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Old 11-26-2007, 04:34 AM   #32
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I don't know anyone that hates Coheed and Cambria because they are glorious.
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And I love Claudio's voice more than anything.
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Old 11-26-2007, 09:06 AM   #33
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The only reason I dont care for the band is because I find the lead guys voice annoying.

The guitar riffs and everything else is bad ass...but it sounds like the lead singer has been kicked in the balls.....
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Old 11-28-2007, 02:02 PM   #34
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Yeah a lot of it for a lot of people is the singer

For some reason I like him, he's unique
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Welcome Home is nothing like their other songs. It was an attempt to sound more metal.

They do put on a really good live show, I've seen them twice. In my opinion, they have the talent and vision to be a good band but they can never seem to quite put it together. They try to be progressive but it just doesn't work out in my view. They definitely have the potential though, and there are a bunch of songs by them that I do enjoy. I could never get fully into them though.
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I will further point out how great Coheed are, and that I can't wait to see them play for the fourth time next Feb
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This is just my take: I think it's sometimes that people will hate anything that is considered "mainstream", or someone will just say that they hate a band because they think that is the "cool thing" to do, but they will have a song from them on their ipod or something like that.

The Suffering was an awesome song from them, I think, and I'm listening to Welcome Home now. It's a pretty good song (and must be a hard song to do right in Rock Band). I see nothing totally wrong in their music (although, yeah, the voice is...different).
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A kid that I work told me that he "hated this fucking emo music" when he got in my car and heard Nick Drake playing. And all of his friends are equally retarded. By that logic, anything that sounds remotely sad is emo. As far as I know, that isn't the case.

I guess I just lost track of what is/isn't considered emo because I don't care.
So...You uh...Had one guy tell you something was emo and that was that?

I'm telling you right now: Metallica is emo!
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I really like the song "Time Consumer" and uhhhhhhh I forget what other ones I like now.
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So...You uh...Had one guy tell you something was emo and that was that?

I'm telling you right now: Metallica is emo!
Of course.
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