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Old 03-12-2004, 12:37 PM   #1
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Buccs letting Lynch and Sapp go.

CMON Tony Dungey . Work some magic maybe. I hear the colts will be looking into sapp because they need DT help. They have a little room under the cap to pick a name up. Man if they can slip a 3rd rounder to the Buccs for Lynch. Its over. Superbowl bitches.


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The Bucs don't need their players, they have enough talent, damn it! Who needs Keyshawn? Who needs Sapp? Who needs Lynch? We got Ryan Nece!
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Its usually a given for Tampa Bay to recycle their players to Atlanta, and considering Atlanta had the worst defense last year, any chance there?
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I thought atlanta has a pretty decent secondary, not positlve but I thought most of there guys are only goin into their 4th year, apart from Bolden
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I think Warren Sapp is overrated

Will be interesting to see Lynch play in something other then Cover 2
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I thought atlanta has a pretty decent secondary, not positlve but I thought most of there guys are only goin into their 4th year, apart from Bolden
Nah, their defense is nothing short of pathetic. Reeves benched all of the starters because, well... there you go. Ray Boo was the best there, but he's old and GONE.

As for recycling Tampa players... um, I can think of Warrick Dunn. Who else?
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Sapp is overrated, Lynch isn't.
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Talk of the Pats going after Lynch...

He'd be a good fit in the Pats system.

I'd assume they'd them move Wilson to CB in Poole's slot, or look to deal Ty Law.
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lol. The Pats won't sign Lynch. I'd be looking at somehwere like Arizona.
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I've heard teams that are intrested in Lynch it was Patriots, Jets, and somebody else

Pretty sure it wasnt the Cardinals

I like Lynch but I dunno..I like Wilson back there at safety now, hes younger and hes only to get better. Lynch has been around for a while and pretty much has maxed out his abilities...I think the Pats should stay Young and keep Wilson at the safety spot.
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lol. The Pats won't sign Lynch. I'd be looking at somehwere like Arizona.
Why? The Pats signed harrison last year, what makes you think they wouldn't sign Lynch?

and Stima- Wilson was a CB in college and could play that, especially if there going to Trade Law or replace Poole, Poole played over his head last year, I wouldn't count on another great year from him.
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Yeah I'd want to get somebody else to play conorback, before moving Wilson back to conor and having Lynch play safety

Wilson played good at the Safety Spot, and hes real young so he is only going to get better.
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Well I've just seen a few stories that Law does not want to be a Patriots anymore, claiming he'll show up to camp just to get 1 million dollars (one of the bonuses)

So now maybe the Pats won't have a choice but will have to move Wilson back to CB
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The Pats need to worry about that offense right now. Last year it looked better than it really was because of that defense but it is far from well rounded.
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I'm not too high on their recievers either. Patten and Branch are alright but I think they could use a big play kind of guy.
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The "bridge is burned." All-Pro cornerback Ty Law does not want to play another game for the Patriots.


Citing "irreconcilable differences," Law said he has told Patriots coach Bill Belichick and vice president of player personnel Scott Pioli his desire to play somewhere else after being "lied to" about their intentions, according to the Boston Globe.


"Right now, it's not about money," Law told the Globe this week. "That bridge is burned. I no longer want to be a Patriot. I can't even see myself putting on that uniform again, that's how bad I feel about playing here."


Law is under contract with the Pats for two more seasons, and wants an extension that would make him the highest-paid cornerback in the NFL. He is due to earn $6.15 million in salary and a $1 million reporting bonus this year, and $8.75 million in salary plus another $1 million reporting bonus next season.


He has asked the Pats to allow him to buy out his contract. They have declined, according to the Globe.


Last month Law called the Patriots' four-year, $26 million offer "an insult" and "a slap in the face." Law told the Globe this week that he thought negotiations would continue, but the team told him they would carry Law's $10 million salary cap figure into next season.


"They told me they didn't want to insult Ty anymore, so they're not going to submit any more offers," Carl Poston, Law's agent, told the Globe.


When Poston made the Pats a seven-year, $63 million counteroffer that included $20 million to sign and $28 million over the first three years, Pioli reportedly responded with something to effect of "We can't do that. Save the paper."


"They told me one thing and did another," Law told the Globe. "They said we were going to talk. All of a sudden, negotiations are off. 'We're just going to keep it the way it is for this year.' No. It ain't going to be 'for this year.' I don't want no 'just for this year.' I don't want no years at all. Actually, I don't want a contract extension anymore because I no longer want to be a New England Patriot. I'm drop-dead serious about not wanting to be a part of this organization anymore."


This is not the first time Law has asked to be let go. Law told the Globe he asked Belichick to place him on the 2002 expansion list, which was due days after the Pats' Super Bowl XXXVI victory.


Trading Law or releasing him before June 1 would come with a cap hit of $5.4 million, or the remaining prorated portion of his signing bonus. If the Patriots cut him after June 1, the cap hit this year would be $2.7 million, and the $2.7 million acceleration would be applied to the 2005 cap.


"I can't do a thing about it but express my displeasure about playing for this organization," Law told the Globe. "I'll go to training camp. I've got bonuses for going to training camp. I'm just saying it won't be a comfortable working atmosphere. It's not a reason to hold out. I get $1 million just to show up. Who wouldn't show up for $1 million? The money ain't the thing, because I have that. Then again, I'm not going to sit here and say I don't want $7 million, either. That's stupid. Hell, we all gotta eat.


"I'll go out there and play my game. I'm not saying I'm going to be the best guy to be around or your favorite guy to talk to. But I'm not going to hurt my teammates and I'm not going to hurt myself. I'm going to go out there and play football, because if you want to pay $7 million to a guy that really doesn't want to be here, OK, this is business. Fine. You don't have to like your boss to work and do your job well."


The Patriots' offer essentially would guarantee Law $15.6 million over the next two years ($6.6 million bonus, salaries of $4 million this year and $5 million next year), according to the Globe. His current contract calls for him to earn $16.9 million over the next two seasons.


"I would be a fool to take less than what I already make," Law told the newspaper. "So you're telling me, if I make $17 million over the next two years, if I'm a Patriot, I'm going to accept $15.6 million? That's a pay cut. I said it a thousand times, I'm not taking no pay cut. No. ... If this is a business and you can't afford to pay me what I deserve to be paid, that's fine. I have no problem with that. But let me go out there and earn the salary that I deserve and let me get the commitment from another team because I deserve more than just a one-year deal."

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Does this guy realize his career is going to be coming to end soon? Says some pretty funny stuff in there, sounds REALLY cocky and claims "its not about the money" but hes going to show up for that 1 million dollars.

I don't know, Ty Law was one of the top 5 CBs in the league, but hes asking for way too much IMO...Patriots really dont have any big time stars, and hes just to act like one now...I dont think he understands what got them to their 2 Superbowl championships...It was the fact that stuff like this did not happen.
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I think their WRs are fine, with the breakout at the end of the season with Given I think they are all set. They are one the few teams that goes 5 wide set with FIVE actaul WR's no backs or anything
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Givens looks to be good, he's 6ft over 200lbs, with great reach and strength. I'd still love to see them get a 6'4 type WR.

Running game is a must.

DT is a need, someone who'se big enough to play the 2gap.

As for Law, WTF... the pats made an offer and Law goes to the press "I'm insulted" so the Pats say screw it, will offer again after the season because "we wouldn't want to insult him again". Clearly it's the Pats saying you negotitate with us, not with the press. Still wouldn't shock me if this gets done.
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If they get a running game, they should be alright with the reciever they have. But I'm telling you without a threat at running back atleast, Brady can NOT score.
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Old 03-14-2004, 08:14 AM   #27
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I'd love to see Ty Law get traded to Buffalo and follow Lawyer Milloy, then have Buffalo get a hold of one of the three top WR in the draft (Mike Williams, Fitzgerald and i think Roy WIlliams?). TO me WR is Buffalo's #1 need, that's why i think their offense struggled so much last year. Moulds was hurt and when he wasn't, they doubled him and Bledsoe had nobody else to throw to. Yes, i am a Buffalo fan.
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Old 03-14-2004, 09:50 AM   #28
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I'd love to see Ty Law get traded to Buffalo and follow Lawyer Milloy, then have Buffalo get a hold of one of the three top WR in the draft (Mike Williams, Fitzgerald and i think Roy WIlliams?). TO me WR is Buffalo's #1 need, that's why i think their offense struggled so much last year. Moulds was hurt and when he wasn't, they doubled him and Bledsoe had nobody else to throw to. Yes, i am a Buffalo fan.
Watch them draft another RB
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Old 03-14-2004, 01:10 PM   #29
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They should trade Ty to the Rams....I would cream myself.
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Old 03-14-2004, 01:21 PM   #30
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If they get a running game, they should be alright with the reciever they have. But I'm telling you without a threat at running back atleast, Brady can NOT score.
LOL Brady seemed to score his way to a Superbowl ring last year

I think you are still mad because I was hatin' on Carter
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