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Old 08-27-2008, 10:15 PM   #41
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Excuse me folks, but I believe Ric Flair owns the gayest wrestling move of all time.
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Old 08-27-2008, 10:16 PM   #42
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I think a lot of the problem is as time's progressed people have obviously wised up to the game so now guys don't work as stiff as they used to leaving a lot of the holds that require some rough housing to look good being nothing but unimpressive and laughable. Bear hug being a main offender but it's not alone. The abdomnale strecth was one of the most feared holds in wrestling when Inoki used and to look at it today and it's a move you can hit in the shine and no one will complain. Ludicris. Figure Four. Used to a finish used by houndreds. Now? Everyone uses it no one wins with it. The list goes on.
Absolutely spot on.

Back in the day, I remember Mario Milano winning EVERY match with the Abdominal Stretch, Mark Lewin winning with the Sleeper Hold, Jack Briscoe with the Figure Four.

The difference is, I think, twofold.

(1) Back then, it was new (relatively) and we weren't so smarkish.
(2) The Old School wrestlers were a different breed - maybe some were tougher and hence weren't afraid to give and take a bit more pain to get over with the crowd.
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Old 08-27-2008, 10:16 PM   #43
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I know, I'm just being a doofus. You're right, though.

BTW, what happened to the atomic drop?
It was universally acknowledged that attacking the buttocks was stupid.
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Old 08-27-2008, 10:18 PM   #44
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What about the Inverted Atomic Drop? Not sure if I'd call it gay or not...
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Now that I think about it, Rock's Spinebuster sometimes got his face awfully low...
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Old 08-27-2008, 10:18 PM   #46
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It was universally acknowledged that attacking the buttocks was stupid.
That's not what you said last night.
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Old 08-27-2008, 10:20 PM   #47
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To NYR:

Not so much about being over as it was being beleivable. They had to sell the fact they were real. Even back then people knew you would have to be superman to go through this and survive. SO they had to go above and beyond to make it look legit. Plus when everyone bought it the reality of the sleeper/stectch/figure four/etc existed. These things hurt if done right. Now that the cat is out of the bag it's more about giving the poeple a good show/circus than simulating a wrestling match.

Which is why I watch more old school/puro/Bryan Danieslon than anything else. I'd rather it be like it was back in the day.
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Old 08-27-2008, 10:21 PM   #48
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Old 08-27-2008, 10:21 PM   #49
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Now I always thought that the Atomic Drop was supposed to jar the back of your opponent - you know, send a jarring sheet of pain up your spine.

Yet, whenever you see the likes of HBM use it, his opponents grab their nuts??

So, if he's deliberately attacking his opponent's nuts, why doesn't he get DQ'd?
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It's supposed to be a knee to the butt compressing the spine...somehow...
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Old 08-27-2008, 10:24 PM   #51
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Does the figure-four actually hurt? I've heard both yes and no - have never actually had it applied to me, but can see if applied properly that it COULD twist the knee.
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Old 08-27-2008, 10:25 PM   #52
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The ankle is in the most danger imo. And yes, you can make it hurt with ease. Even on accident.
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Didn't read the whole thread but saw the debate about the bear hug looking weak now, I would just like to say that Brock Lesnar's bear hug was the shit.
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Does the figure-four actually hurt? I've heard both yes and no - have never actually had it applied to me, but can see if applied properly that it COULD twist the knee.
Yes it really hurts, especially on the top of the shin/knee area of the lower leg. You could definitely break somebody's leg if you did it right.

Also, the reversal where the guy in the Figure 4 turns the other guy over onto his stomach; that actually forces the guy's heel directly into your nuts. So those looks of pain are totally legit.
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Old 08-28-2008, 12:05 AM   #57
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I know, I'm just being a doofus. You're right, though.

BTW, what happened to the atomic drop?

It's one of HBK's 5 moves of doom
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lol yes that one too. totally forgot about that lame move.
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Does the figure-four actually hurt? I've heard both yes and no - have never actually had it applied to me, but can see if applied properly that it COULD twist the knee.
If you put their ankle on top of their knee you could probably dislocate their kneecap.
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Hurricanrana is quite gay. some guys dick is in ur mouth why he has balls on ur neck and has the cheek to sit on ur shoulders why he doing it.
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Old 08-28-2008, 08:59 PM   #69
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Old 08-28-2008, 09:43 PM   #70
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How has no one brought up Hard Gay?
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Old 08-28-2008, 10:31 PM   #71
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How has no one brought up Hard Gay?
I seriously thought that he was a made up fictional character. And do cock shots really hurt a guy that bad?
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Old 08-28-2008, 11:14 PM   #72
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I've always thought that any move involving lifting an opponent over your head perpendicularly (for, say, a gorilla press) was very gay... you basically have to grab the opponent's crotch with your right hand, and do it carefully. How is that not gay?
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Old 08-29-2008, 01:39 AM   #73
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Tommy Young Tribute Match:
Guest Referee: Pat Patterson

Danshoku Dino, Hard Gay, Japanese Pool Boy, and Kirby Mack
vs.
Rico, Goldust, Billy and Chuck
vs.
Kanyon, West Hollywood Blondes, and Angel The Hardcore Homo
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Old 08-29-2008, 01:47 AM   #74
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Earthquake's finisher was pretty gay
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