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Old 10-06-2008, 12:34 PM   #1
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If you guys remember
...The Big Show made it a big deal when he became the first wrestler to have won 3 different major Heavyweight Championships. As of late, I found that many other wrestlers belong to the same league. Here are some statistics for you all.



TRIPLE-H

WWE WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION
WWE CHAMPION
WCW WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION

KURT ANGLE

WWE WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION
WWE CHAMPION
WCW WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION
NWA WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION* (Not sure about this one)
TNA WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION
IWGP THIRD BELT CHAMPIONSHIP

CM PUNK

WWE WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION
ROH WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION
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Old 10-06-2008, 12:36 PM   #2
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CHRIS JERICHO

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He's the only one to hold the WCW, ECW and WWE championships. The point of pushing it was that he was the only one to hold the world title of the big three.
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Old 10-06-2008, 01:06 PM   #4
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yea, what Xero said. You can find plenty of guys that won 3 different "World Titles"
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He's the only one to hold the WCW, ECW and WWE championships. The point of pushing it was that he was the only one to hold the world title of the big three.
There has been alot of people/teams to win three world titles but Big Show is the closest to winning WCW, WWE, ECW in each major promotion while they were seperate. HHH winning the WCW title duirring the Invasion storyline or The Dudleys winning the WCW tag team titles, but never really competling in WCW isnt the same.
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Old 10-06-2008, 02:20 PM   #6
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Thats the point. Big Show never won the ECW strap in the original ECW.
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But he held the title. Yes, it can be argued that it isn't the real ECW Championship, but the fact remains that he's done something that no one else has done by holding all three of those championships, and by WWE's standards it is the ECW Championship.

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Also, Triple H never held the WCW title. He missed the entire Invasion angle with his original quad tear. When he got injured, Booker T and the title hadn't even appeared and by the time Trips came back, the Alliance was dead so there WAS no WCW title.
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Evolution is correct.
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The last WCW Champion was Scott Steiner.

The last ECW Champion was Rhino.

Anyone booked under the WWE to these titles do not count.
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Old 10-07-2008, 11:08 AM   #12
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Thats bullshit. That's like saying when Paul Heyman took over ECW that title's holder was the last ECW champion and anything done post Todd Gordon doesn't count. Wrestling companies change owners all the time, deal with it. If anyone other than Vince McMahon had bought ECW/WCW this would even be discussed. Vince owned those titles and has the right to do what ever he pleses with them and IT COUNTS. Cause they're his titles.

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Anyway, Steiner lost the WCW title to Booker T on the last Nitro. You can't say that doesn't count because it happened on WCW television. Vince may have owned the company, but he wasn't booking the show like a Raw or Smackdown. The only influence Vince had on Night of Champions was that the backstage segments were showing Raw instead of Nitro and the simul-cast at the end.

I can see the arguement for people like The Rock never holding the WCW Championship because it happened in the WWF, but the Big Show won the ECW Title on ECW. May not have been the original ECW, but the show was called ECW, not RAW, not WrestleMania, but ECW.
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As Destor said, it's the lineage that counts anyway, not what promotion it was won or lost in. That's like saying the NWA title changing hands in ROH doesn't count.

The ECW title dates back to the original ECW title.

The WCW title ended when it was merged with the WWF Championship.

This isn't a case of "same belt, different lineage" like the WHC, this is a case of "same belt, same lineage, different promotion".
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Also, Triple H never held the WCW title. He missed the entire Invasion angle with his original quad tear. When he got injured, Booker T and the title hadn't even appeared and by the time Trips came back, the Alliance was dead so there WAS no WCW title.
Technically the title was renamed as the World Championship after the alliance was dead. And at Wrestlemania XVIII, Trips won both the titles as the WWF Undisputed Championship.
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Wrong.

It was considered the Undisputed Championship when Jericho first won it. Once Trips won it he just got a single title, but it was always considered one title, the Undisputed Championship which wound up becoming the WWE championship.

Edit: Actually, you're right to a degree. I remember them calling it the World Championship after Survivor Series but it still held the lineage of the WCW championship until Jericho won it.
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Wrong.

It was considered the Undisputed Championship when Jericho first won it. Once Trips won it he just got a single title, but it was always considered one title, the Undisputed Championship which wound up becoming the WWE championship.

Edit: Actually, you're right to a degree. I remember them calling it the World Championship after Survivor Series but it still held the lineage of the WCW championship until Jericho won it.
That was my point Xero! he won both the titles as the WWF Undisputed title (which is solo).
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But you're claiming it was renamed the Undisputed Championship only at WrestleMania. It was renamed as such at Vengeance.
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Jericho unified the titles. Good job on trying to give the Kliq credit though, I like the way you think.
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But you're claiming it was renamed the Undisputed Championship only at WrestleMania. It was renamed as such at Vengeance.
Almost everyone on this site knows that Jericho defeated The Rock and Stone Cold in the same night at Vengeance to become the first ever Undisputed Champion in WWF history. You got me wrong.
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The last WCW Champion was Scott Steiner.

The last ECW Champion was Rhino.

Anyone booked under the WWE to these titles do not count.
Booker T beat Scott Steiner for the title on the last Nitro.
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As Destor said, it's the lineage that counts anyway, not what promotion it was won or lost in. That's like saying the NWA title changing hands in ROH doesn't count.

The ECW title dates back to the original ECW title.

The WCW title ended when it was merged with the WWF Championship.

This isn't a case of "same belt, different lineage" like the WHC, this is a case of "same belt, same lineage, different promotion".
Well, some would say that title changes in ROH don't count. Just saying. But yeah, so far:

* Big Show is the only wrestler to have won the WWE, WCW and ECW Championships -- regardless of promotion.

* No wrestler has covered the entire WWE World Title Triple Crown (WWE, ECW and World Heavyweight Chamionships). Kane and Big Show need to win the World Heavyweight Title; CM Punk needs to win the WWE Championship; Triple H, Shawn Michaels, Chris Jericho, The Undertaker, Edge and Randy Orton need to win the ECW Title.

* Triple H was never WCW Champion.

* Bobby Lashley is the only man to have won the ECW Championship twice since the belt has been sanctioned by the WWE.

* Kurt Angle is the only man to have held the WWE, WCW and TNA Championships. He's also the first man to add the World Heavyweight Title to that list.

* CM Punk is the only ROH World Champion to have become an ECW Champion and World Heavyweight Champion.

* Samoa Joe is the only former ROH World Champion to become TNA World Heavyweight Champion.

* Sting is the only man to have won the TNA World Heavyweight Championship and the NWA World Heavyweight Championship. He is also the only man to have won those belts as well as the WCW Championship.

* John Cena and Batista -- despite being pushed as Supermen -- have only held one of the three possible WWE Universe World Titles.
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Also, the Undisputed Championship was one title. When Jericho became WCW Champion and WWE Champion after defeating The Rock and Stone Cold Steve Austin, there was no question as to who should be called professional wrestling's "World Heavyweight Champion." It was Chris Jericho, and he wielded both belts as a dual-trophy for his single success. The distinction between the WCW and WWE Championship became history at this point -- mere trivia -- because one man had blurred the line, making their separation redundant.

When Triple H won the title from Jericho, he didn't defeat the WWE and WCW Champion; he defeated the Undisputed Champion. This was only his fifth reign as top dog. Not his fifth and sixth, respectively. Triple H would get one belt to symbolise this new era of the WWE's World Title. This shattered the illusion of the Undisputed Championship being more than one title. The WWE Title's history, by the way, is of course dominant because the company that unified the belts was the WWE. Why make the WCW Title history dominant? Especially when it only goes back to 1991, ignoring decades of the WWE Championship's existence. The WCW Title's right to be the top belt of a company died when WCW died. When Hulk Hogan defeated Triple H, he became a six-time WWE Champion, not a six-time WWE Champion and seven-time WCW Champion. The Undertaker and Brock Lesnar were also never WCW Champions.

After defeating The Rock for the Undisputed Championship, Brock Lesnar signed exclusively with SmackDown!, perhaps in exchange for sex with Stephanie McMahon, then SmackDown!'s (in kayfabe) single General Manager. This made the "Undisputed Title" exclusive to SmackDown!. It reverted back in name (because it was no longer undisputed) and obvious history to the WWE Championship that has served as the backbone for the company, and RAW's General Manager, Eric Bischoff, was forced to create a title for his brand of professional wrestling. He revived the old WCW Title belt, and called it the "World Heavyweight Championship," to breathe instant credibility and prestige into this baby World Championship.

Since then, only three Royal Rumble Winners have actually gone on to challenge for the WWE Championship. Only one of those men (Brock Lesnar, the man actually responsible for multiple WWE Universe World Championships, hence perhaps most dogged about the WWE Championship) challenged for it at WrestleMania. This was also within the first year of the World Heavyweight Championship's birth, so that title was still untested and not seen as an equal rival to the historic WWE Title, perhaps.

The other two men were John Cena and Eddie Guerrero, the latter of whom won a 20-Man Royal Rumble on SmackDown! to decide who would challenge Brock Lesnar for the WWE Title [I]because[I] the 2004 Royal Rumble Winner, Chris Benoit, had chosen to compete for the World Heavyweight Championship. Those Royal Rumble wins were both redeemed at No Way Out.
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Old 10-08-2008, 06:59 AM   #26
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WWF didn't book the last WCW show.
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Old 10-08-2008, 07:58 AM   #27
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WWF didn't book the last WCW show.
Are you sure?

I'm pretty certain they had some creative involvement.
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Old 10-08-2008, 08:04 AM   #28
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As far as I know they didn't mess with the matches.
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