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Old 12-31-2008, 01:21 PM   #1
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Cena out sold Hogan in merchandise this year...
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Cena’s merchandise numbers for 2008 were the best of anyone in company history except Austin during his peak years, and ahead of 80s Hogan marks.
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Old 12-31-2008, 01:25 PM   #2
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A comeback has to be in the works after this news.
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Old 12-31-2008, 01:55 PM   #3
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Old 12-31-2008, 02:21 PM   #4
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Probably coulda sold shitloads more if his character hadn't been dumbed down to "generic all american grinning good guy".
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Well, it has been said all along that Cena is Hogan.
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Old 12-31-2008, 03:33 PM   #6
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Does that include the spinner belt that is now on the show Cena is not on?
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LOL. They should depush Cena!
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i heard rumors a few years back that at certain stores nation wide . merchandise was ringing up as certain superstars names . like say someone bought a kane action figure it would ring up as john cena . or a rey mysterio tshirt as HHH tshirt . stuff like that . maybe thats why he beat hogan.
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Old 12-31-2008, 05:30 PM   #9
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i heard rumors a few years back that at certain stores nation wide . merchandise was ringing up as certain superstars names . like say someone bought a kane action figure it would ring up as john cena . or a rey mysterio tshirt as HHH tshirt . stuff like that . maybe thats why he beat hogan.
Or, maybe he's just amazingly popular with people who buy merchandise? At live shows, he sells well. Really well. I don't know why his merch would sell well in venues, but not translate over to retailers, or why it would even be necessary to cook the books.
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It also helps when Cena has more merchandise than anyone right now. When you can find nearly everything Cena in a Wal-Mart, he should be making money.
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Old 12-31-2008, 07:03 PM   #11
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It also helps when Cena has more merchandise than anyone right now. When you can find nearly everything Cena in a Wal-Mart, he should be making money.
But still, if kids didn't like Cena, it wouldn't be selling. I'm not really trying to defend WWE as much as point out that they can only get this kind of marketing placement if they're actually moving the shit.
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Old 01-01-2009, 12:34 AM   #13
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That doesn't work. Cena doesn't sell either.
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Old 01-01-2009, 01:06 PM   #14
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Old 01-01-2009, 04:56 PM   #15
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The problem isn't so much kids, as permissive parents who will buy anything kids scream for. Kids have always wanted what TV, radio, books, or sculpture told them to. Parents are supposed to be discerning and say "You don't really want to dress like a wigger from a carny sport."
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i heard rumors a few years back that at certain stores nation wide . merchandise was ringing up as certain superstars names . like say someone bought a kane action figure it would ring up as john cena . or a rey mysterio tshirt as HHH tshirt . stuff like that . maybe thats why he beat hogan.

WCW used to do that with Cena being replaced by Hogan and Sting.
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WCW used to do that with Cena being replaced by Hogan and Sting.
I think it was Hogan and Nash.

I'm too lazy to check it right now but it's in Death of WCW.

A Fed-Ex bowl or something similar from 2001 has been the top spot of the Sports DVD sales until last year or so. Same SKU.
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Or, maybe he's just amazingly popular with people who buy merchandise? At live shows, he sells well. Really well. I don't know why his merch would sell well in venues, but not translate over to retailers, or why it would even be necessary to cook the books.
It's not like the WWE never told anyone not to make Triple H look bad in a video game or anything...

I'm not saying the books are cooked, mind you, so don't twist it, but it wouldn't shocked me if products were just generalised like that. After all, no one outside the business really gives a shit who or what a John Cena is. Even if he sells more than Hogan did back twenty years ago, prior to a business that had gone through such booms as the Attitude era.
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It's not like the WWE never told anyone not to make Triple H look bad in a video game or anything...

I'm not saying the books are cooked, mind you, so don't twist it
Wait...What? Didn't you just do exactly that to the above statement?

Besides, there's a large and tangible gap between telling a video game mag not to show Triple H in a vulnerable position and altering numbers like that.
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Regardless, does it not just mean that WWE's merchadising operation has improved over the years?
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Wait...What? Didn't you just do exactly that to the above statement?

Besides, there's a large and tangible gap between telling a video game mag not to show Triple H in a vulnerable position and altering numbers like that.
No, I implied that it's not beyond the WWE to want to make their top stars look good over say secondary players who also make the WWE a lot of money. I didn't say they were doing it in this particular case.
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Regardless, does it not just mean that WWE's merchadising operation has improved over the years?
That's pretty much it. There is a new shirt for John Cena and Shawn Michaels almost every week, and the business is just a lot more flourished now than it was during the era of Hogan.

And to be honest, if Cena didn't sell as much as he did, I'd be worried. He's been shoved so far down our throats on one hand, and on the other there has to be some level of justification for that.
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Regardless, does it not just mean that WWE's merchadising operation has improved over the years?
exactly. The business of merchandise is a bigger focus now that ever before. Hogan did have his name all over everything back in the day, but other stars had very limited gear. Now it seems like everyone has an entire line.
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No, I implied that it's not beyond the WWE to want to make their top stars look good over say secondary players who also make the WWE a lot of money. I didn't say they were doing it in this particular case.
Didn't say you did. Just said you twisted it. Protip: If you don't know, don't assume.
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exactly. The business of merchandise is a bigger focus now that ever before. Hogan did have his name all over everything back in the day, but other stars had very limited gear. Now it seems like everyone has an entire line.
That's nice, except since Cena is supposed to be a top star, kind of moot.
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Old 01-04-2009, 03:07 AM   #30
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Originally Posted by Kane Knight View Post
Didn't say you did. Just said you twisted it. Protip: If you don't know, don't assume.
Protip: Don't take advice from KK.

I'm not "assuming" anything. I threw it out there as an "it wouldn't surprise me" comment. Thanks for reading too far into things, though. Seems to be something you're good at these days.
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