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Old 01-29-2009, 06:34 PM   #721
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NO way Pau Gasol or David West should have gotten in over Al Jefferson. Especially Pau Gasol though. Thats criminal.
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Old 01-29-2009, 06:37 PM   #722
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How the hell can you say Pau does not deserve to be an All-Star? Explain to me. Please.
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Reserves:

SHAQ DIESEL
Pau Gasol
David West
Dirk Nowitzki
Tony Parker
Chauncey Billups
Brandon Roy


Jameer Nelson
Rashard Lewis
Paul Pierce
Joe Johnson
Chris Bosh
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Danny Granger

No Drunken Master is pretty shitty.
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Old 01-29-2009, 07:05 PM   #724
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How the hell can you say Pau does not deserve to be an All-Star? Explain to me. Please.

Pretty simple. Jeffersons stats are way better and he's on a team where the second best player is Randy Foye. Gasols stats are not better and he's got Kobe Bryant. So its not like he's seeing tons of double teams like Jefferson.

Gasol is a overrated peice of junk i'm sorry. He just is. Troy Murphy is better then him. If the Lakers had Murphy hitting two 3's a night and pulling 11 rebounds a game, with Bynum in the middle, they might not lose a game.
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Old 01-29-2009, 07:05 PM   #725
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Yah thats right. I said it. Murphy is better then Gasol.
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OHHH, he called Gasol out.
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Old 01-29-2009, 07:20 PM   #727
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PAOLLLLLLLLLLLLLI GASOL IS A FRAUD!!!! BOOO THIS MAN!
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Except Al Jefferson fails at making his team better.
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As does Danny Granger. *no offense*
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lol @ RP. This does not warrant an answer.
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Old 01-30-2009, 02:44 AM   #731
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As does Danny Granger. *no offense*

No offence, but you're certifiably retarded if you actually think that. Granger has hit more big shots in crunch time this year alone then Kobe has in the last 3 years. You may wanna get your info straightend out before you continue to post about this subject. k? Bye
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Well that's great, but I'm talking about this season.
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No offence, but you're certifiably retarded if you actually think that. Granger has hit more big shots in crunch time this year alone then Kobe has in the last 3 years. You may wanna get your info straightend out before you continue to post about this subject. k? Bye
Come on now, Kobe has made more clutch shots in the last year than games Indiana has won this season, let's be serious.
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Come on now, Kobe has made more clutch shots in the last year than games Indiana has won this season, let's be serious.
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Old 01-31-2009, 12:32 AM   #736
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Old 01-31-2009, 12:56 AM   #738
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thats what I thought. Kobe hasnt hit a big shot in a longgg time.
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Old 01-31-2009, 01:17 AM   #739
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Anyway, my point was that Granger should not be in the All-Star game because he's on a losing team and even though he has some good stats, he fails at making his team better.

On the other hand, Pau Gasol has been the most efficient player on the best team from the Western Conference. He also leads in best FG% for PF's and in assists for all bigs. So he DOES deserve to be in the All-Star game.
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Yah.. Only every NBA beat writer and coach disagree with you. But you're obviously the expert so if you say so then you must be right and they must all be wrong.

Jesus Christ you're so stupid. I cant click this thread off because you're such a train wreck.
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Yah.. Only every NBA beat writer and coach disagree with you. But you're obviously the expert so if you say so then you must be right and they must all be wrong.

Jesus Christ you're so stupid. I cant click this thread off because you're such a train wreck.
Yeah I know, it's just my opinion. No need to get all worked up man.
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Yes

An opinion you made with no information and no clue what so ever. You may as well be saying all black people are dumb, or all white people are rich. Maybe you should keep your opinions to yourself until you do some more research and get half a clue of what the fuck you're talking about.
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What? I looked at the standings and saw that the Pacers are almost 20 games behind first place with a record of 19-28. What other information do I need? Granger is on a losing team and *in my opinion* guys on losing teams should not play in All-Star games.
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And yes, even if the Lakers had a losing record, I wouldn't want Kobe in the All-Star game.
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Anyway, my point was that Granger should not be in the All-Star game because he's on a losing team and even though he has some good stats, he fails at making his team better.

On the other hand, Pau Gasol has been the most efficient player on the best team from the Western Conference. He also leads in best FG% for PF's and in assists for all bigs. So he DOES deserve to be in the All-Star game.
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All these guys are putting up same numbers as Gasol with BETTER FG %. I didnt even mention Shaq either whos numbers are better. The one thing these guys have in common? They dont have Kobe Bryant on there team. If Gasol was putting up the numbers he is right now and he was still in Memphis, he wouldnt even be considered for an All-Star spot. Thats a fact. He clearly benefits from playing on the Lakers and playing with Kobe Bryant.

And he's not the most efficient player on the Lakers. Bynum is. He's giving the Lakers the same amount of rebounds, 3 less ppg, 1 more block and a better field goal percentage in 6 less minutes per game then Gasol.

I dont even watch the Lakers and i'm breaking down YOUR favorite team for you. Good lord.

Maybe when i wake in the morning, i'll break down Danny Granger for you and make you look like an even bigger dumb ass. Fun times.
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All these guys are putting up same numbers as Gasol with BETTER FG %. I didnt even mention Shaq either whos numbers are better. The one thing these guys have in common? They dont have Kobe Bryant on there team. If Gasol was putting up the numbers he is right now and he was still in Memphis, he wouldnt even be considered for an All-Star spot. Thats a fact. He clearly benefits from playing on the Lakers and playing with Kobe Bryant.

And he's not the most efficient player on the Lakers. Bynum is. He's giving the Lakers the same amount of rebounds, 3 less ppg, 1 more block and a better field goal percentage in 6 less minutes per game then Gasol.

I dont even watch the Lakers and i'm breaking down YOUR favorite team for you. Good lord.

Maybe when i wake in the morning, i'll break down Danny Granger for you and make you look like an even bigger dumb ass. Fun times.
You can break him down all you want, but that wont change the fact that he's on a losing team. Which was my point to begin with.

As for Bynum, he had the best week of his career last week, so that would explain the spike in his numbers.

PS. NBA.com is a great tool for stats, I'm glad you were able to find it useful
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Old 01-31-2009, 02:58 AM   #750
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I'll give you this though, those Gasol stats I posted earlier are from an old post of mine from like 2 or 3 weeks ago. I didn't take into account the fact that he hasn't been playing all that great over the past few weeks.
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Yi Jianlian got 450,000 votes, pretty sure he's the best forward in the league. Seriously, this is an asinine argument. RP, while you make solid points, to imply that Gasol is not in the All-Star convo is ridiculous. Granger is amazing but he is on a below average team, thus inflating his numbers. Kobe's numbers have been over-inflated for years when he was on a terrible team. Now, when he's surrounded by talent, everyone questions if he's still "the best" because his numbers have suffered.

Gasol is an European player, it's great that people call him soft, but that's how he was taught. When you're trained to be a banger, you become a banger. Howard was trained for years to own that paint and crush the rim. When trained to be a shooter, shocker... You're a fucking shooter. You play players that take shots in Europe, and when you're in the forward/center position, you don't press, you make/let them take the shot. He's really no different then Dirk (obviously Dirk is a little better, but we wanted Dirk a while back because that type of player fits our scheme).

The bottom line is Gasol is on the best team in the West with a huge market. Fan voting is retarded, but that doesn't take away from his talent. He is on a loaded team, with great depth on the bench, his numbers are gonna go back and forth.
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Bynum goes down again. This is unbelievable. 2 years in a row. Against the Same team.
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Apparently the x-rays came back negative. Now just gotta wait on MRI results. Fuck man, this sucks.
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8-12 weeks. Torn MCL. Goodbye championship. Fuck you, gods of basketball.
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No he won't. They tried feeding us the same shit last year. He will not be back
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Treatment of a medial collateral ligament injury rarely requires surgical intervention. Almost always, some simple treatment steps, along with rehabilitation, will allow patients to resume their previous level of activity.
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Juan. He is done dude.
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I don't think so. This isn't the same kind of injury as last year. He doesn't need surgery.

Gotta stay positive, Sammy.
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They said he didn't need surgery last year, too, remember? Then he got it like on May 21st or some shit. They are feeding us the same bullshit as they did last year.
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