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Old 04-28-2009, 04:38 PM   #1
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Forrest Griffin vs. Anderson Silva at UFC 101
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Forrest Griffin vs. Anderson Silva, not Thiago Silva, set for UFC 101 (Updated)
by John Morgan and Dann Stupp on Apr 28, 2009 at 12:20 pm ET

The Ultimate Fighting Championship will scrap a UFC 101 bout between former UFC light heavyweight champion Forrest Griffin (16-5 MMA, 7-3 UFC) and top contender Thiago Silva (13-1 MMA, 4-1 UFC) in favor of a Griffin vs. Anderson Silva (24-4 MMA, 9-0 UFC) match-up.

Sources close to the organization today told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) a meeting was held last week to discuss the Anderson Silva vs. Griffin bout.

UFC President Dana White has since confirmed with Yahoo! Sports that the fight has been signed.

Anderson Silva, fresh off a heavily criticized title defense over Thales Leites at UFC 97, will now move up a weight class for the non-title fight with Griffin.

Although not officially announced by the organization, UFC 101 takes place Aug. 8 at the Wachovia Center in Philadelphia. The event also features a UFC lightweight title fight between title-holder B.J. Penn and top contender Kenny Florian.

Rumors of the potential Anderson Silva vs. Griffin bout began showing up last week after some cryptic emails were sent to a variety of MMA news outlets. The flames were fanned when seemingly unsubstantiated reports of the rumored fight were posted on a few MMA message boards over the weekend.

Although the fight is now signed, a source close to Thiago Silva told MMAjunkie.com the fighter was unaware his fight with Griffin had been scratched. Even as of this morning, the fighter was apparently under the impression he was still scheduled to fight Griffin at UFC 101.

MMAjunkie.com first reported in March that the UFC had lined up the Thiago Silva vs. Griffin fight, which many considered a bout that would determined the light heavyweight division's No. 1 contender after Quinton Jackson. Jackson is scheduled to fight the winner of a UFC 98 bout between current champ Evans and Lyoto Machida later this summer.

The source isn't sure if Thiago Silva will remain on the UFC 101 card with a new opponent or if he'll be shifted to another event.

As for Anderson Silva, UFC officials wasted no time scheduling him for his next fight. He most recently fought on April 18 as a headliner for UFC 97. He entered the fight as a significant favorite, and though he won a lopsided unanimous-decision victory, Anderson Silva was criticized for what seemed a conservative game plan in which he opted not to follow Leites, a Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt, to the ground.

UFC President Dana White called the fight "embarrassing" and "disappointing," and he openly questioned if Anderson Silva needed another challenge at 205 pounds. The fighter, who picked up a UFC record ninth straight victory with the Leites win, moved up to 205 pounds in July 2008 for a non-title fight with James Irvin, and the Brazilian striker has made no secret of his intentions to move up a weight class again in the future.

The UFC has obliged.

Stay tuned to MMAjunkie.com for more on this story.

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Old 04-28-2009, 05:00 PM   #2
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Should be awesome. Hopefully the rest of the card shapes up too.
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Well, White said he was gonna force Anderson to fight - Forest will def press the action enough to make that happen.
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this is going to be amazing. yea, Griffin is going to go right at him. Silva is carrying some heat with him and I bet the crowd is going to be hot to see him get his ass whooped.
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I'm going to say Giffin will lose if he goes right after Anderson like he did with Jardine, Ortiz and Bonnar but if he tries to stay to the outside and pick away at Anderson he might stand a shot. Griffin is a gigantic light-heavyweight definitly bigger than anyone Anderson has face at least recently. If I were Griffin I'd push Silva up again and use some of that Randy Couture dirty boxing.
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The gauntlet has been laid down. This fight will deffinately answer the questions and settle the arguments in the other thread.

August is fucking miles away
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Wow, Forrest is gonna have some serious weight on him come fight time
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Funny enough, a friend of mine who is very close to Dave Meltzer and Kevin Iole told me this morning UFC were lining up Keith Jardine to fight Anderson Silva. I said "what about Forrest Griffin" and he said "never gonna happen, they aren't that stupid".

I didn't think it was a bad idea and turns out the hunch was true. Should be a good fight. Forrest will probably outweigh Silva by a good 25lbs before bell time though and that's not a good thing.
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Funny enough, a friend of mine who is very close to Dave Meltzer and Kevin Iole told me this morning UFC were lining up Keith Jardine to fight Anderson Silva. I said "what about Forrest Griffin" and he said "never gonna happen, they aren't that stupid".

I didn't think it was a bad idea and turns out the hunch was true. Should be a good fight. Forrest will probably outweigh Silva by a good 25lbs before bell time though and that's not a good thing.
They just announced that Jardine is facing Thiago Silva at 102.

I'd have to put my money on Silva since he overwhelms opponents but I'm hesitant since this is Jardine's fight after a loss which going by his career as of late (win-loss-win-loss) makes him a shoe in to win.
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That's another pick 'em fight too.
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Who isnt rooting for Forrest too? All the guys Silva has faces, i havent been able to root for. Accept for maybe Dan Henderson. But Forrest is soo easy to root for in this match.

Also, If Forrest wins this fight, he's a MMA legend right? This would make him one of the all time greats.
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Who isnt rooting for Forrest too? All the guys Silva has faces, i havent been able to root for. Accept for maybe Dan Henderson. But Forrest is soo easy to root for in this match.

Also, If Forrest wins this fight, he's a MMA legend right? This would make him one of the all time greats.
It wouldn't make him a legend I think beating Shogun and Rampage back to back will do more for his legacy than beating Anderson Silva. Most people can explain away the win on Forrest's part by saying he beat a guy he had a huge size advantage on.
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His size advantage wont be that huge. Silva is a big Middleweight and will be a decent sized Lightweight once this fight happens.
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he walks around at 215, Forrest walks around at almost 240.
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he walks around at 215, Forrest walks around at almost 240.
That and it'll be the first time in forever that someone will have a reach advantage on him.
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Silva, KO round 2
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Awesome...though I was kinda lookin forward to Griffin V Thiago.
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His size advantage wont be that huge. Silva is a big Middleweight and will be a decent sized Lightweight once this fight happens.

Silva isn't as big a middleweight as people think. He makes 185lbs with ease. He came in at 182lbs for the Leites fight. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong but I'm sure he weighed in at less than 200lbs for the James Irvin fight too.

There is a very good chance Griffin could have 20-25lbs on Silva when they get in the cage.
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Silva weighed in at 206 for the Irvin fight.
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The fight is like, 14 weeks away as well. More than enough time for a few protein shakes and some time in the weight room.
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The fight is like, 14 weeks away as well. More than enough time for a few protein shakes and some time in the weight room.
GSP said he wouldn't move to 185lbs without at least 6 months in the gyn putting on solid muscle.
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But GSP comes into the cage like a a chiseled rock, and Anderson comes in very very lean. Guys like Rich Franklin and Hendo can't have been far off what Forrest will cut from before they cut for the MW fights with him.
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Franklin and Henderson never came into the cage in the 225-230lbs like Griffin will.
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Forrest Griffin is a legit 6'3" or 6'4" where as Franklin and Hendo are hovering around the 6 foot mark. I think the big factor in this fight is the reach. The reach was how Forrest was able to keep Rampage at bay and if Forrest can survive Rampage's knockout power he may be able to survive Andersons power which isn't as much as Rampage...

Don't get me wrong Anderson is a better more accurate more versatile striker, he just doesn't have as much power as Rampage, and if Forrest can stay out of range consistantly that'll bode well for him.

It'll be the first time Anderson fights someone he doesn't have a reach advantage on.
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lol if you don't think Forrest Griffin would have a huge reach and weight advantage you're kidding yourself. Griffin made Shogun Rua look tiny. I realize Shogun's not the biggest dude in the world, but he is a pretty reasonably big guy.
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Forrest Griffin is a legit 6'3" or 6'4" where as Franklin and Hendo are hovering around the 6 foot mark. I think the big factor in this fight is the reach. The reach was how Forrest was able to keep Rampage at bay and if Forrest can survive Rampage's knockout power he may be able to survive Andersons power which isn't as much as Rampage...

Don't get me wrong Anderson is a better more accurate more versatile striker, he just doesn't have as much power as Rampage, and if Forrest can stay out of range consistantly that'll bode well for him.

It'll be the first time Anderson fights someone he doesn't have a reach advantage on.
Rampage has more KO power than Rashad Evans and Keith Jardine and Griffin couldn't handle those two. It's all relative. Anyone can be KO'd.
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Rampage has more KO power than Rashad Evans and Keith Jardine and Griffin couldn't handle those two. It's all relative. Anyone can be KO'd.
Very true but Griffin did stupid things in those fights because he probably thought he was equal to those guys in striking. Forrest has got to know he no where near the striker Anderson is. That's why I think he'll employ the tactic he used against Rampage long enough to press the smaller Anderson Silva into the cage and dirty box him
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I'm very excited at the thought of Brandon Vera kicking Matt Hamill's head off his shoulders.
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I'm very excited at the thought of Brandon Vera kicking Matt Hamill's head off his shoulders.
One can only hope. Though I am somewhat afarid that Hamill will get the win.
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Not if the real Brandon Vera shows up. And he looked very serious in his last fight. Hamill is never going to be able to hang with top guys. Vera on the other hand should be a top guy.
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Not if the real Brandon Vera shows up. And he looked very serious in his last fight. Hamill is never going to be able to hang with top guys. Vera on the other hand should be a top guy.
I totally agree but that's if the real Truth shows up, which after the way he looked against Jardine and Werdum I'm afraid might not happen.
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I can't believe this hasn't been posted yet. Maybe I'm missing it. Penn vs Florian at UFC 101 as well. It's about god damned time.
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Forrest Griffin is a legit 6'3" or 6'4" where as Franklin and Hendo are hovering around the 6 foot mark. I think the big factor in this fight is the reach. The reach was how Forrest was able to keep Rampage at bay and if Forrest can survive Rampage's knockout power he may be able to survive Andersons power which isn't as much as Rampage...

Don't get me wrong Anderson is a better more accurate more versatile striker, he just doesn't have as much power as Rampage, and if Forrest can stay out of range consistantly that'll bode well for him.

It'll be the first time Anderson fights someone he doesn't have a reach advantage on.
If you watch Rampage fight, all of his power comes from hooks and uppricuts. He does not throw many or have a lot of power in his strait punches. This is why guys like griffin and jardine and everyone else who wants to use reach can beat rampage if they stay smart. Guys like rampage cant hit you because hooks and uppers dont have range.

Silva does not use hooks and uppricuts very often and his knock out punches are all strait crosses. Something that forrest is going to have a huge problem with.

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Rampage has more KO power than Rashad Evans and Keith Jardine and Griffin couldn't handle those two. It's all relative. Anyone can be KO'd.
Again Rampage couldnt hit him, but he made a mistake on the range with jardine, and he apparently sucks off his back which is the only reason rashad beat him.


Forrest does not have a good chin at all. Hes just a smarter fighter now.
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It's a big fight and even with Silva's recent performances, I don't think he is going to walk away with a loss. I think he may knock Forrest out, and rather quickly to be honest.
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Ok what.


Stop just stop

Anderson Silva is 6'2 with a 77.5 reach

Griffin is 6'3 with a 77.0 reach


Silva weighed in at the Irvin fight as 206.


Lets just stop with the advantage bullshit and get your facts straight thx.
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Ok what.


Stop just stop

Anderson Silva is 6'2 with a 77.5 reach

Griffin is 6'3 with a 77.0 reach


Silva weighed in at the Irvin fight as 206.


Lets just stop with the advantage bullshit and get your facts straight thx.

Yeah cuz Silva didn't really have to cut weight for the fight. You're going to look at Forrest and Silva next to each other, and Forrest is going to look a lot bigger. So you... get YOUR facts straight.
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Yeah cuz Silva didn't really have to cut weight for the fight. You're going to look at Forrest and Silva next to each other, and Forrest is going to look a lot bigger. So you... get YOUR facts straight.
I have to agree. Weighing 205lbs at the weigh ins and what you weigh going into the fight are two different things.
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Ok what.


Stop just stop

Anderson Silva is 6'2 with a 77.5 reach

Griffin is 6'3 with a 77.0 reach


Silva weighed in at the Irvin fight as 206.


Lets just stop with the advantage bullshit and get your facts straight thx.
You got those numbers from wikipedia. And height and reach don't always equal size. That's how Randy Couture and Georges St. Pierre who are essentially the same height fight 3 weight classes from one another.
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