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Old 05-12-2009, 02:08 AM   #41
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Isn't this the guy who also happen to receive a carear ending back injury at the beginning of the Austin era, and which miraculously healed around the time Austin was on bad terms with WWE?

Granted I think he's a great preformer, but kind of want to throw my two cents in there too on him being a petty bitch.
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Old 05-12-2009, 02:12 AM   #42
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Isn't this the guy who also happen to receive a carear ending back injury at the beginning of the Austin era, and which miraculously healed around the time Austin was on bad terms with WWE?

Granted I think he's a great preformer, but kind of want to throw my two cents in there too on him being a petty bitch.

Why yes, because it's highly unfortunate that HBK was out for the bulk of the Austin Era, costing him millions of dollars. Let's all praise Sweet Robot Jesus that he came back during a slump, where he would not see the kind of money he would have made if he was wrestling a few years beforehand.
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There was really no reason for him NOT to be a complete prick and a petty bitch though, Vince never really reprimanded him much and took him back after every time he left on bad terms. Yeah, he took advantage of people but he was almost encouraged to do so. It's like giving your dog a treat everytime e pisses on the carpet.
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Old 05-12-2009, 02:29 AM   #44
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Why yes, because it's highly unfortunate that HBK was out for the bulk of the Austin Era, costing him millions of dollars. Let's all praise Sweet Robot Jesus that he came back during a slump, where he would not see the kind of money he would have made if he was wrestling a few years beforehand.
Some people's egos go beyond that of money...I would place Shawn Michael's ego in that category...
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Lost his balls is more like it
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Old 05-12-2009, 03:41 AM   #46
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Bret was gonna own him in the rematch. Shawn said it best when he said "HBK lays down for nobody". He didn't want to job to anyone and yet he criticises Bret for taking the business too seriously and no doing the honours.
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Old 05-12-2009, 03:51 AM   #47
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How many guys has Shawn put over since his return?
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Mr Steele, you are ridiculous. Are you honestly arguing that Shawn wanted to drop the belt but couldn't?

You know damn-well any other performer in the WWF would have said "Vince, I'm hurt, I need to drop the belt". You know the Undertaker, Austin, The Rock or Mankind would have gone out there, had one more match and done the job.

Shawn would have been dealing with the pain of a knee injury like this for many years. This stuff builds up over time. You think if he wanted to drop the belt he couldn't have had one more match, or done it one match sooner...?
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Old 05-12-2009, 09:38 AM   #49
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but you know what line is rarely referenced? "Who are you to doubt El Dandy?"
Except, you know, it is.

I mean, if you gotta lie to support your side of the story....
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He was dancing around like the stripper he must of been in his former life on RAW and WM13..what the fuck is wrong with you steele? Are you sitting on shawns cock right now?
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Except, you know, it is.

I mean, if you gotta lie to support your side of the story....
Who are you to doubt El Dandy?
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Old 05-12-2009, 11:26 AM   #52
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This guy is a true professional. (el dandy, not HBK)
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Old 05-12-2009, 11:47 AM   #53
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Also, what does it say about Michaels if he's so remembered for "I lost my smile," as people seem to claim? Is Austin remembered for "He took his ball and went home?" No. Is the Rock remembered for the Scorpion King? Nobody remembers that movie. is Hogan remembered for being....Fuck, that's a bad example.

Though to the IWC, it might be a fair comparison. When people bring up Hogan here, they rarely bring up the slamming of Andre, or the years where he practically carried WWF. They bring him up as a politicking douchebag. And if you really want to tout "I lost my smile" being remembered over his actual wrestling accomplishments as a feather in his cap, well....

I guess what I'm saying is that was stupid and sells Michaels short, fourfifty. I know you're a little smarter than your argument.
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no one denies michaels contributions but his selfishness must also be noted. At least sell your fake injury, you fag. Bret worked a brilliant match going out of his way to make michaels shine, put michaels over clean in the middle of the ring at wm12. Immediately after that Michaels told him to get the fuck out of his ring.

Was it too much for him to return the favour at WM13? I guess so. Fuck , he was injured and still didnt want to put austin over the next year at Wm14. How fucking selfish.

And lets not forget the crying in the lockerroom after the screw job. guess he lost his smile there too.
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no one denies michaels contributions but his selfishness must also be noted. At least sell your fake injury, you fag. Bret worked a brilliant match going out of his way to make michaels shine, put michaels over clean in the middle of the ring at wm12. Immediately after that Michaels told him to get the fuck out of his ring.

Was it too much for him to return the favour at WM13? I guess so. Fuck , he was injured and still didnt want to put austin over the next year at Wm14. How fucking selfish.

And lets not forget the crying in the lockerroom after the screw job. guess he lost his smile there too.
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Old 05-12-2009, 03:01 PM   #56
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I really wish I knew how to upload a clip to You Tube (Translation: I wish I had the patience to learn how to upload a video to You Tube.) Because as I've bragged about before on here, I have almost all the 97' Raw episodes recorded on VHS, and towards the end of that year, when Jim Neidhart came out to confront D-X after they had a little person come out and wear a Bret Hart mask, and make fun of Bret, HBK questioned the whereabouts of the other Hart Foundation members. Neidhart told him Bulldog had a knee injury to which Shawn sarcastically replied and said something as long the lines of

"Ohh, one of those knee injuries! Yeah, I've had "one of those knee injuries" before...."

Not the exact words, but even Shawn himself implied he faked the knee injury.

Maybe that above clip is already on youtube, maybe it's not, but I tell ya, Bret and Shawn said all kinds of "shoot style" things to one another in interviews through out 1997. Things I had no clue what they were talking about until years later when I watched the episodes again. It made for some truly classic stuff. It was great to be a wrestling fan at that time. Anyhow, in closing, I believe HBK did fake the injury, and his refusal to job to Bret after Bret jobbed to him at Wrestlemania 12, and was told by Shawn afterwards to "get the fuck outta the ring, this is my time", goes to show how unprofessional the boy toy truly is, and that in the wrestling business, it's not "only the strong survive", it's "only the evil survive". And of course, Shawn's kiss-up, tag-along, buddy Triple H would later go on to carry the company, and now another butt-kisser, Randy Orton is in the process of becoming the big man on campus next, along with his two buddies that are only there cause of their father's. That's what wrestling is all about now. Who you kiss up to, and/or who your father is.

That trend started because of Shawn Michaels when he screwed over a real wrestler, a wrestling of tradition. When that happened, Shawn not only screwed Bret Hart, but he screwed the wrestling business, and the notion of actually paying your dues to get to the top by having a strong work ethic too.
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god doesn't exist, america because(all the points bret made during 97), and I'm a cat person.
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That's what wrestling is all about now. Who you kiss up to, and/or who your father is.
Hey, who was Bret Hart's father again?
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I have never denied that HBK was a prick back in the day, hell, he is the first to admit it. My point in this thread is that he actually did have a knee injury, and after admitting to everything he's admitted to, why wouldn't he fess up to him faking a knee injury. HBK said he had a knee injury, and I believe him over some dirtsheet writer or bitter old wrestler who is trying to keep his flame from going out.
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Dr James Andrews was on WWF TV less than a week later saying Shawn's "knee injury" wasn't serious and he'd make a comeback in less than 6 weeks.

Believe a legit doctor or Shawn Michaels?

Actually, don't answer that. Stick to wiping his cum off your top lip.
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Despite all of this I know one thing and can never be convinced otherwise.

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Can we get a mod to get a definitive Bret v. Shawn thread going so I don't have to check 3 or 4 for my daily dose of mark shit talking?
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Shawn has bested Bret at pretty much every aspect of the game IMO. Shawn definitely came out on top in this real life shoot fued of theres. Not going to get into an arguement with Zen though about this as he probably won't be able to argue all too well with Bret's ballsack on his tongue.
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Old 05-12-2009, 04:31 PM   #68
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shawn is only wrestling to support his cocaine habbit. He cant give blowjobs all weekend like he used to cus church is on sundays.
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How ironic is it that Shawn Michaels just may be the best there is, was, and ever will be?

Like really.
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Old 05-12-2009, 04:45 PM   #70
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This is the pulse.













This is your finger, far from the pulse, straight up your ass.

Say, would you like a chocolate covered pretzel?
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How ironic is it that Shawn Michaels just may be the best there is, was, and ever will be?

Like really.
Arguing who is the best wrestler in a fake sport is like arguing over which is more retared, a child with austism, or a child with down syndrome, they are both retareded.
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Old 05-12-2009, 04:50 PM   #72
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You people are fucking retarded, swear to god.
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Old 05-12-2009, 04:50 PM   #73
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Dr James Andrews was on WWF TV less than a week later saying Shawn's "knee injury" wasn't serious and he'd make a comeback in less than 6 weeks.

Believe a legit doctor or Shawn Michaels?

Actually, don't answer that. Stick to wiping his cum off your top lip.
So he had a doctor on WWF TV say he had a legit knee injury? So, then why the fuck would you and other Bret Hart marks say he was faking his injury. My whole argument is that he had a legitimate knee injury that was not as serious as originally thought. Thank you for proving my point for me!
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Old 05-12-2009, 04:52 PM   #74
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You mean the "knee injury" that was never real in the first place?
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Old 05-12-2009, 04:53 PM   #75
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Arguing who is the best wrestler in a fake sport is like arguing over which is more retared, a child with austism, or a child with down syndrome, they are both retareded.
Like you've never argued over the better actor, director, or musician.

HBK doesn't need to be a real competitor in a real sport to be the best any more than Christian Bale has to fight crime to be the best Batman.
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By the way, why has a Bret vs Shawn social group not been made? I'm willing to bet it would be pretty popular.
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Like you've never argued over the better actor, director, or musician.

HBK doesn't need to be a real competitor in a real sport to be the best any more than Christian Bale has to fight crime to be the best Batman.
Silly KK, acting is a real profession.
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Since there can be no consensus through logic over who was right and who was wrong, I have a proposal: The first ever TPWW Dozens! Team HBK and Team Hitman will exchange insults and myself and two other judges to be determined will rank the level of the insult from 0 (Are You Serious, Kid?) to 5 (I'm Calling Off Work Today). No subject will be too taboo! Sign-ups will begin at once. The winning team will determine once and for all, the Better Wrestler!
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Old 05-12-2009, 05:01 PM   #79
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