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Old 07-17-2009, 08:56 AM   #1
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could TNA win by getting sleazy?
Lets rewind to the monday night wars:

Vince figured out that the way to beat WCW was to make RAW raunchier, sexier and bordering on obscenity. WCW had to stay PG and it lost in the ratings. Getting dirty obviously worked.

Now WWE has new PG guidelines and need to remain clean. My question is : Could TNA get slutty and dirty and beat WWE the way WWE beat WCW?



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Old 07-17-2009, 08:59 AM   #2
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Easy, just show off more Love and Sky...that otta do it. Hell, make them lesbians while Russo is at it.
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Old 07-17-2009, 09:37 AM   #4
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They should do an invasion angle with Carmen Elektras sexy wrestling shit....ratings
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Old 07-17-2009, 10:17 AM   #5
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In theory it should work, but then the attitude era was ten years ago and times have changed since then. I suppose it wouldn't hurt for TNA to try something like that though to further distinguish them as an alternative to WWE.
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If they want to sex it up they need to get rid of their 40-50 year old wrestlers. Nobody likes to see old men hanging round with young chicks...unless it's Ron Jeremy.
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Honestly thought, for a fan flipping through the channels, with no idea who TNA is, they are more likely to stop to watch Nash and Angle than the MCMG.

TNA needs to cut back on those names though, they are too many. Drop 3D, drop Jarrett off TV, retire Sting, and they are better off.

They also need to get the X and tag divisions going hot again. And new announcers are a must.
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Old 07-17-2009, 10:47 AM   #8
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just have sky and love bang each other with strap ons for an hour
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Old 07-17-2009, 12:23 PM   #10
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I wonder what they can do with the strap ons at lock down
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i agree because with the pg wwe its really getting on my nerves, i feel like im watching the wiggles every monday night and then some other times its like im watching regular wwf, example

thay have decided that no-one will blade and have since censored all of the blood from old ppvs

but then on moday night, they had a bikini tag match

its like wwe are going through puberty

but i agree with makem and hanso get rid of some of the old guys and push the tag team and x division back where it belongs, and a strapon match with love and sky sound like something i would pay alot of money to see
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It wouldn't hurt. But you would still need good writing. Without that, any discussions like this are pretty pointless.
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They wouldn't 'win' but it could definitely make them stand out a bit more, at least until Vince changes his mind again
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It could happen..... but not as quickly as many TNA fans would hope....
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TNA would need good booking and better story lines to win. WWE got pretty sleazy for a while, but the booking and writing was also top notch. Didn't WCW get more sleazy around the time Russo took over which was around the time WCW became shite? WCW was more family friendly than WWF during the Attitude era, but I did notice an increase in sleaze.
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Saying that WWF beat WCW because they got "sleazy" is ignorant, because it ignores the fact that they got big due to Stone Cold Steve Austin vs. Vince McMahon, i.e. a great storyline. Yeah, Austin drank beer, beat up Santa, gave everyone the finger, etc. Yeah, Sable was walking around half-naked most of the time. But the reason business picked up in the WWF was because of a great conflict/story that people wanted to watch every week.

Going "sleazy" means nothing if there's no motivation. It might work for a few weeks, maybe even a month, but without a core storyline, it won't last.
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You also ignore the way WCW got big in 1996. It wasn't because they had half naked women or extreme violence and blood, or even lots of cursing and middle fingers. It was because of NEW WORLD ORDER vs. WCW.
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With anything, you need something that will attract people, then something else to keep bringing them back.

In the past, TNA got attention for their 2 hour show, Kurt Angle, and etc...but in the end the shows were still crap. I'm pretty much repeating what a few others said here, but you need more than "attitude" to attract people...you need the emotional involvement of the audience to keep coming back.
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Yeah there's no way in hell Total Nonstop Senior Assisted Care Wrestling will ever be able to win against WWE. They will be second-rate until the time when they can no longer continue due to lack of interest from the fans, which will be due to lack of interest in wanting to see 60-70 year old guys in "Walker on a pole" matches...
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I would have to agree with the idea that TNA will never beat WWE, but I have been watching TNA a lot more recently than I have in the past. They are making some good moves as far as story lines go, but in the end, it is still a massive clusterfuck.
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I think just by hearing discussions of TNA here on TPWW, I have come to a conclusion.


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I would have to argue, and point out.



I'm not even into the goth look, and I think she is smokin'.
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I'm not even into the goth look, and I think she is smokin'.
Not bad for someone who would turn Hanso on.
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Not bad for someone who would turn Hanso on.
When she does that lame psycho shit on television, though, I dunno, the whole makeup thing and how she dresses, just don't really do anything for me. I guess it could be the whole way of how they try to portray her when she does that gimmick. Although, I also kind of had the same problem with actually giving a rat's ass about Ariel in ECW (Kevin Thorne's girlfriend).
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Isn't TNA all ready sleazy?
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Old 07-19-2009, 05:59 AM   #33
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TNA is going to start beating Smackdown! ratings soon.
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Old 07-19-2009, 07:00 AM   #34
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No chance in hell, TNA will never beat Smackdown. Not with the way it's showing actual wrestling instead of 2/3 of the show being random storyline skits.
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Old 07-19-2009, 07:07 AM   #35
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Hell, if it worked for WWE during the Monday night wars, why wouldn't it work for TNA right now. Bottom line..... history COULD repeat itself.
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Old 07-19-2009, 10:53 AM   #36
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TNA Impact on 7/9 drew a final 1.2 cable rating (rounded up from a 1.17) with 1.7 million viewers. The show did a 0.84 in males 18-34 and 1.04 in males 35-49.

WWE Superstars on 7/9 drew a final 0.8 cable rating.

ECW on SyFy on 7/9 drew a final 0.7 cable rating. The show was out of its normal timeslot.

WWE Monday Night Raw on 7/6 drew a final 3.6 cable rating with 5.15 million viewers.

WWE Friday Night Smackdown on 7/3 drew a final 1.6 broadcast rating with 2.61 million viewers.



it will take tna a while to catch up with raw, but dixie carter said the next step is to beat smackdown and it is totally possible
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The only disadvantage for WWE is that Smackdown is on Friday nights, when most people are out, except for kids of course. Impact is on Thursday nights, when most people are home.
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TNA Impact on 7/9 drew a final 1.2 cable rating (rounded up from a 1.17) with 1.7 million viewers. The show did a 0.84 in males 18-34 and 1.04 in males 35-49.

WWE Superstars on 7/9 drew a final 0.8 cable rating.

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WWE Monday Night Raw on 7/6 drew a final 3.6 cable rating with 5.15 million viewers.

WWE Friday Night Smackdown on 7/3 drew a final 1.6 broadcast rating with 2.61 million viewers.



it will take tna a while to catch up with raw, but dixie carter said the next step is to beat smackdown and it is totally possible
Even if those numbers were true, Volare's right. Smackdown's doing good considering it's a bad night. Impact is doing poorly (by comparison to WWE) considering it's a much better night. It's totally possible, but not totally likely. TNA's been drawing similar numbers for ages now.
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everyone cool goes out on a Wednesday night, everyone knows that
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everyone cool goes out on a Wednesday night, everyone knows that
Wednesday's pity night. Though you not knowing explains a lot.
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