IC Title Match pulled from Breaking Point - Page 2

**Italian $tallion** · 09-10-2009, 07:33 PM

Regal lasting 27 seconds would really put him over as one of the top heels in the company. And bring glory back to the only all silver belt in the history of the wwe!

**Juan** · 09-10-2009, 07:57 PM

It's made of platinum, not silver.

**Anybody Thrilla** · 09-10-2009, 07:59 PM

If only the centerpiece spun...

**Theo Dious** · 09-10-2009, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TL

They haven't even given a reason for it.

Someone at the top doesn't like morrison....

Right, they dislike him so much they gave him the title to begin with.

I don't know, maybe the reason for it is that the buildup and heat around the anticipated IC title match was killed when a Mexican Midget screwed the wellness pooch? Maybe? Anyone?

**The Jayman** · 09-11-2009, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Tedious

Right, they dislike him so much they gave him the title to begin with.

I don't know, maybe the reason for it is that the buildup and heat around the anticipated IC title match was killed when a Mexican Midget screwed the wellness pooch? Maybe? Anyone?

I actually agree with this. The fued with Rey and Mr Ziggles had alot of build and heat over the past couple of months and when Rey decided his breaking point was crack then they they took out the match. There is no doubt that Morrison and Mr Ziggles would be an awesome match but there hasn't been enough build to showcase it on ppv.

**Londoner** · 09-11-2009, 11:57 AM

That's just a sad excuse to me. You could just have it end in DQ and continue the feud from there. Have ziggler get frustrated that he can't seem to win the IC title or something and have him get himself DQ'ed while beating down morrison, is that really a worse idea than pulling the match from the card?

**The Jayman** · 09-11-2009, 12:59 PM

Not really. But seeing the track record of WWE it doesn't surprise me that they went this route.

**The Gold Standard** · 09-11-2009, 02:53 PM

Regal makes the damn PPV, but someone good, like Morrison and Ziggler don't? I guess Vince really does hate the Intercontinental Title.

**Theo Dious** · 09-11-2009, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TL

That's just a sad excuse to me. You could just have it end in DQ and continue the feud from there. Have ziggler get frustrated that he can't seem to win the IC title or something and have him get himself DQ'ed while beating down morrison, is that really a worse idea than pulling the match from the card?

Again, it makes total sense to scrap the match with no buildup to give other matches more time. Or we can have a piece of shit match like that Christian/Regal business we had last time, so that everyone can whine and cry about that instead.

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Originally Posted by The Gold Standard

Regal makes the damn PPV, but someone good, like Morrison and Ziggler don't? I guess Vince really does hate the Intercontinental Title.

Quit trying to earn pathetic fanboy points.

**Londoner** · 09-11-2009, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Tedious

Again, it makes total sense to scrap the match with no buildup to give other matches more time. Or we can have a piece of shit match like that Christian/Regal business we had last time, so that everyone can whine and cry about that instead.

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Yes, i'm certainly looking forward to cena/orton going on another 30minutes.

**The Gold Standard** · 09-12-2009, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Tedious

Quit trying to earn pathetic fanboy points.

I am not trying to earn pathetic fanbot points. I really hate Regal. Always had. He is one of the reasons I don't watch all of ECW.

**The Gold Standard** · 09-12-2009, 12:28 AM

What I am still baffled by, is that Morrison and Ziggler put on great matches every week and they can't be rewarded with a PPV match?

**Londoner** · 09-12-2009, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by The Gold Standard

What I am still baffled by, is that Morrison and Ziggler put on great matches every week and they can't be rewarded with a PPV match?

Ziggler was at summerslam remember? Morrisons the only one i find bizarre, it really doesn't matter about 'no build' if its a great match and people care about the two superstars, which seemed to be the case on smackdown this week.

**The Gold Standard** · 09-12-2009, 09:01 AM

Yeah he was at SummerSlam and Night of Champions and he had great matches there which makes this move bizarre.

**Evil Vito** · 09-12-2009, 12:11 PM

Well...guess we know why it was bumped...

Kofi vs. The Miz has been added to the card instead.

**thedamndest** · 09-12-2009, 12:30 PM

Sounds like a hot match.

**Anybody Thrilla** · 09-12-2009, 02:41 PM

Kofi and Miz had a nice little match on Draft day this year. This could be good. Still a little disappointed, though.

**Anybody Thrilla** · 09-12-2009, 02:45 PM

I wish they would have dropped Khali v. Kane and kept the IC and US matches. Would have looked like a pretty solid card that way. Also could have had a nice backstage segment between Miz and Morrison.

**thedamndest** · 09-12-2009, 02:55 PM

Between this concept PPV and the card itself I really don't think looking for a stream will even be worth it. Deal with the loss of my freeriding, WWE.

**screech** · 09-12-2009, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla

I wish they would have dropped Khali v. Kane and kept the IC and US matches. Would have looked like a pretty solid card that way. Also could have had a nice backstage segment between Miz and Morrison.

Agreed. I love Kane, but this match really doesn't need to be on PPV. Having the two midcard titles on the show would be great.

**Droford** · 09-12-2009, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Vito 22

Well...guess we know why it was bumped...

Kofi vs. The Miz has been added to the card instead.

Zing.

I must have ESP.

XL · 09-12-2009, 04:07 PM

Another reason this makes zero sense is that they explained Ziggler not getting the shot on SD! as him earning a shot at the IC Title at Breaking Point. So, Ziggler was never the No. 1 Contender per se.

Makes me wonder why they just didn't have Ziggler beat Mysterio on SD! if that's what they had intended to do at the PPV!?

**Mr. Nerfect** · 09-12-2009, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tedious

Right, they dislike him so much they gave him the title to begin with.

I don't know, maybe the reason for it is that the buildup and heat around the anticipated IC title match was killed when a Mexican Midget screwed the wellness pooch? Maybe? Anyone?

I actually find myself agreeing with Tedious for once. It's pretty fucking obvious the WWE are super high on both John Morrison and Dolph Ziggler right now. Sure, it sucks that we teased ourselves with the idea of the match, but it makes perfect sense to postpone the match while we get more build so people are actually willing to pay to see these two go at it.

The two will have their IC Title match at Hell in a Cell. There's not heat on either man -- Michael Hayes just knows what he is doing. We'll get more interaction between Johnny Nitro and Mr Ziggles on SmackDown! over the next two or three weeks (however long it is until HIAC), and then we get the classic we are all after.

Relax, guys.

Besides, I think it is about time Kofi Kingston made a PPV anyway. The IC Title has gotten a lot of PPV time recently, so it makes sense to give a good spot to The Miz and Kofi. I actually expect The Miz to win the US Title here, and possibly then possibly bump into Maryse, and start shagging her in kayfabe -- because The Miz is awesome.

GD · 09-12-2009, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla

If only the centerpiece spun...

**Mr. Nerfect** · 09-13-2009, 12:01 AM

I also hope that William Regal and Christian get a lot of time with their match.

**Afterlife** · 09-13-2009, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid

I also hope that William Regal and Christian get a lot of time with their match.

Like, say, the length of a match?

**Mr. Nerfect** · 09-13-2009, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Afterlife

Like, say, the length of a match?

Ideally, I'd like to see them go about twenty minutes. Christian and Regal can both work it, and the ECW Title could really use some solid matches to its name.

**Londoner** · 09-13-2009, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by XL

Another reason this makes zero sense is that they explained Ziggler not getting the shot on SD! as him earning a shot at the IC Title at Breaking Point. So, Ziggler was never the No. 1 Contender per se.

Makes me wonder why they just didn't have Ziggler beat Mysterio on SD! if that's what they had intended to do at the PPV!?

This is a good point, so in wwe logic, ziggler should've got the title match regardless of what build the match got. You could argue ziggler getting the title shot at the PPV was enough build.

**FourFifty** · 09-13-2009, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Italian $tallion

Cena & Swoggle vs Chavo and Orton in a slave submission i quit father nelson on a pole match for the WWE Championship has been added to the Breaking Point card.

.....did WWE get Russo back?

**Juan** · 09-13-2009, 01:26 AM

Dolph Ziggler vs. John Morrison was pulled from the Breaking Point card because WWE could not come up with a finish for the match, possibly due to not wanting more than one screwjob finish on the same show, which may end up relating to CM Punk vs. The Undertaker. Adding Kofi Kingston vs. The Miz was a late decision. The plan as of now is to have Ziggler vs. Morrison at the Hell in the Cell PPV in three weeks, though that could change. The original plan was to have the Undertaker beat CM Punk at the PPV tomorrow, but sentiment backstage now is that the timing is wrong for that, so the match may end up with a screwjob finish, setting up a Hell in the Cell match between the two in three weeks. [Credit: Wrestling Observer]

**Xero** · 09-13-2009, 01:35 AM

They couldn't come up with a finish? Why don't these fucking writers have their pink slip yet?

**Londoner** · 09-13-2009, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Juan

Dolph Ziggler vs. John Morrison was pulled from the Breaking Point card because WWE could not come up with a finish for the match, possibly due to not wanting more than one screwjob finish on the same show, which may end up relating to CM Punk vs. The Undertaker. Adding Kofi Kingston vs. The Miz was a late decision. The plan as of now is to have Ziggler vs. Morrison at the Hell in the Cell PPV in three weeks, though that could change. The original plan was to have the Undertaker beat CM Punk at the PPV tomorrow, but sentiment backstage now is that the timing is wrong for that, so the match may end up with a screwjob finish, setting up a Hell in the Cell match between the two in three weeks. [Credit: Wrestling Observer]

LOL

This writing staff is just pathetic. I already came up with a finish that would continue the feud earleir in this thread. Hire me you bastards wwe!

**Mr. Nerfect** · 09-13-2009, 02:14 AM

I still think it has more to do with build and not the finish. And to be fair, it really is too soon to take the IC Title off Morrison, and Ziggler losing again might look a bit ridiculous.

**wehavebensavedy2j** · 09-13-2009, 04:18 AM

have morrison win clean then... build it up to breaking point and then have mysterio come back later and screw morrison by accident setting up a feud or something... either way when mysterio comes back he is gonna be in a feud with one of the 2

**Londoner** · 09-13-2009, 04:36 AM

Or they could all have a triple threat where match for the title where ziggler beats rey for it rather than morrison....

**parkmania** · 09-13-2009, 11:10 PM

So instead of a match, we ended up with 10 minutes of Pat Patterson talking?

Gee, thanks [/sarcasm]

**Sixx** · 09-13-2009, 11:12 PM

Patterson looks like an albino pug.

**wwe2222** · 09-13-2009, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by wwe2222

i actually would rather them pull a montreal finish on the undertaker so Punk keeps the belt.

ha, they actually listened to me

**Mr. Nerfect** · 09-14-2009, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TL

Or they could all have a triple threat where match for the title where ziggler beats rey for it rather than morrison....

That is exactly where I see this going. Ziggler and Morrison have their match at Hell in a Cell, where Morrison retains the title in another close call. Rey Mysterio then comes back, and requests his rematch, but during that match (which can happen on SmackDown! or Superstars), Ziggler runs in and lays out both guys, causing the match to end in a double disqualification.

This leads to a Triple Threat at Bragging Rights, where Ziggler actually gets the win by pinning Rey Mysterio. John Morrison is a little pissed off, and these leads to tension between Rey and Morrison -- more than the "friendly competition" kind -- and Ziggler is of course a massive douche in the story. You can build things further from there, with Morrison wanting the IC Title back, and Mysterio doing his mid-card service for being busted.

I could imagine a Triple Threat Ladder Match between the three down the line. That could be very cool. Essentially I think it would be Ziggler and Morrison trading the belt back and forth, though.

09-10-2009, 07:33 PM	#41
Italian $tallion Member Posts: 106	Regal lasting 27 seconds would really put him over as one of the top heels in the company. And bring glory back to the only all silver belt in the history of the wwe!

09-10-2009, 07:57 PM	#42
Juan Doin' It Right Posts: 35,460	It's made of platinum, not silver.

09-10-2009, 07:59 PM	#43
Anybody Thrilla Cranky Kong Posts: 78,671	If only the centerpiece spun...

09-11-2009, 11:57 AM	#46
Londoner One Of A Kind Posts: 22,178	That's just a sad excuse to me. You could just have it end in DQ and continue the feud from there. Have ziggler get frustrated that he can't seem to win the IC title or something and have him get himself DQ'ed while beating down morrison, is that really a worse idea than pulling the match from the card?

09-11-2009, 12:59 PM	#47
The Jayman Southern Hospitality Posts: 9,437	Not really. But seeing the track record of WWE it doesn't surprise me that they went this route.

09-11-2009, 02:53 PM	#48
The Gold Standard Posts: 4,365	Regal makes the damn PPV, but someone good, like Morrison and Ziggler don't? I guess Vince really does hate the Intercontinental Title.

09-12-2009, 12:28 AM	#52
The Gold Standard Posts: 4,365	What I am still baffled by, is that Morrison and Ziggler put on great matches every week and they can't be rewarded with a PPV match?

09-12-2009, 09:01 AM	#54
The Gold Standard Posts: 4,365	Yeah he was at SummerSlam and Night of Champions and he had great matches there which makes this move bizarre.

09-12-2009, 12:11 PM	#55
Evil Vito President of Freedonia Posts: 58,329	Well...guess we know why it was bumped... Kofi vs. The Miz has been added to the card instead.

09-12-2009, 12:30 PM	#56
thedamndest A Property of Matter Posts: 25,543	Sounds like a hot match.

09-12-2009, 02:41 PM	#57
Anybody Thrilla Cranky Kong Posts: 78,671	Kofi and Miz had a nice little match on Draft day this year. This could be good. Still a little disappointed, though.

09-12-2009, 02:45 PM	#58
Anybody Thrilla Cranky Kong Posts: 78,671	I wish they would have dropped Khali v. Kane and kept the IC and US matches. Would have looked like a pretty solid card that way. Also could have had a nice backstage segment between Miz and Morrison.

09-12-2009, 02:55 PM	#59
thedamndest A Property of Matter Posts: 25,543	Between this concept PPV and the card itself I really don't think looking for a stream will even be worth it. Deal with the loss of my freeriding, WWE.

09-12-2009, 04:07 PM	#62
XL Feeling Oof-y Posts: 17,151	Another reason this makes zero sense is that they explained Ziggler not getting the shot on SD! as him earning a shot at the IC Title at Breaking Point. So, Ziggler was never the No. 1 Contender per se. Makes me wonder why they just didn't have Ziggler beat Mysterio on SD! if that's what they had intended to do at the PPV!?

09-13-2009, 12:01 AM	#65
Mr. Nerfect Posts: 61,533	I also hope that William Regal and Christian get a lot of time with their match.

09-13-2009, 01:26 AM	#70
Juan Doin' It Right Posts: 35,460	Dolph Ziggler vs. John Morrison was pulled from the Breaking Point card because WWE could not come up with a finish for the match, possibly due to not wanting more than one screwjob finish on the same show, which may end up relating to CM Punk vs. The Undertaker. Adding Kofi Kingston vs. The Miz was a late decision. The plan as of now is to have Ziggler vs. Morrison at the Hell in the Cell PPV in three weeks, though that could change. The original plan was to have the Undertaker beat CM Punk at the PPV tomorrow, but sentiment backstage now is that the timing is wrong for that, so the match may end up with a screwjob finish, setting up a Hell in the Cell match between the two in three weeks. [Credit: Wrestling Observer]

09-13-2009, 01:35 AM	#71
Xero He's Here Posts: 60,735	They couldn't come up with a finish? Why don't these fucking writers have their pink slip yet?

09-13-2009, 02:14 AM	#73
Mr. Nerfect Posts: 61,533	I still think it has more to do with build and not the finish. And to be fair, it really is too soon to take the IC Title off Morrison, and Ziggler losing again might look a bit ridiculous.

09-13-2009, 04:18 AM	#74
wehavebensavedy2j Junior Member Posts: 74	have morrison win clean then... build it up to breaking point and then have mysterio come back later and screw morrison by accident setting up a feud or something... either way when mysterio comes back he is gonna be in a feud with one of the 2

09-13-2009, 04:36 AM	#75
Londoner One Of A Kind Posts: 22,178	Or they could all have a triple threat where match for the title where ziggler beats rey for it rather than morrison....

09-13-2009, 11:10 PM	#76
parkmania #BUCTOBER Posts: 6,461	So instead of a match, we ended up with 10 minutes of Pat Patterson talking? Gee, thanks [/sarcasm]

09-13-2009, 11:12 PM	#77
Sixx LUV CABBAGE/H8 JEWS Posts: 42,497	Patterson looks like an albino pug.