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Old 10-06-2009, 02:29 PM   #1
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With the Hell in a Cell match now meaning nothing, what's next?
After the Hell in a Cell PPV, I feel that they completely killed the Cell gimmick. Both Taker/Punk and Cena/Orton did NOT need to be in the Cell. DX at least used the gimmick to the storytelling of the match, but really, for me, the PPV completely killed the Cell. It used to be THE match to end feuds, much like the steel cage match was before this.

Really, what's next? What should be the next "big match"/"feud ender" match? Because, again, I feel that they completely destroyed anything the Cell really had and it's just another gimmick match now. It doesn't feel special at all to me anymore.

Also, do you agree that they killed the gimmick?

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Old 10-06-2009, 02:31 PM   #2
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WWE Disqualification: where every match ends in a DQ
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I don't think the gimmick is 100% killed, but they have to wait a while for the next Hell in a Cell match to occur.

They could go back to the cage match for a gimmick match ender, or a ladder match depending on the participants.

However, I am always a fan of an Ironman or Last Man Standing match to end feuds, because to me it gives a true ending for the feud.
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and yes, even though I didn't watch it at all... they have completely fucked up the HIAC gimmick
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WWE Disqualification: where every match ends in a DQ

Apparently it's now a No DQ Iron Man Match.
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so can the entire roster come down and beat on Cena?
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so can the entire roster come down and beat on Cena?
That just sounds wrong.
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I don't think the gimmick is 100% killed, but they have to wait a while for the next Hell in a Cell match to occur.

They could go back to the cage match for a gimmick match ender, or a ladder match depending on the participants.

However, I am always a fan of an Ironman or Last Man Standing match to end feuds, because to me it gives a true ending for the feud.
Cage or Ladder just don't have that same vibe the Cell had.

Ironman, not really, because the Ironman, in my opinion, was about wrestling (and we know that's a bad word) and all the possible falls. And they've ruined it by making it no DQ, so there are only two real ways to score a pinfall. And Last Man Standing does work, but really, nothing ever really compared to the Cell. They aren't the same level.
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That just sounds wrong.
It'd only sound wrong if he wrote this:

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so can the entire roster come down and beat off Cena?
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Cage or Ladder just don't have that same vibe the Cell had.

Iron Man, yeah, I guess, and Last Man Standing does work, but really, nothing ever really compared to the Cell. They aren't the same level.
I just feel the Last Man standing and Ironman matches really put the stamp on feuds, because of how they are.

I do not like these gimmick PPVs either.
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The Cell was the next level from LMS and Ironman, though.
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ok lemme rephrase....can the entire roster go to the ring and kick Cena's ass?
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everyone used to pop when a hell in a cell match was booked because they knew it was either going to get bloody, some big bumps were going to happen, or both of those
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We will never have a big bump anymore because the raised the Cell, so there is no way someone takes a bump another 10-15 feet up, or how ever high they raised it.
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We will never have a big bump anymore because the raised the Cell, so there is no way someone takes a bump another 10-15 feet up, or how ever high they raised it.
i've see bigger bumps than that, landing on only body table and concrete, the wwe 'superstars' are too molly coddled i wanna see them earn that high wage
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i've see bigger bumps than that, landing on only body table and concrete, the wwe 'superstars' are too molly coddled i wanna see them earn that high wage
By potentially dying? You're an idiot.
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as far as i can tell, no wrestler has ever died taking a big bump. (no owen hart jokes please), even when new jack tried to kill vic grimes with a big bump he failed.
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i've see bigger bumps than that, landing on only body table and concrete, the wwe 'superstars' are too molly coddled i wanna see them earn that high wage
You're a fucking moron. That shit is dangerous as hell and shouldn't be preformed without proper safety measures. What you saw did not have those measures.

The Shane bump vs Blackman was higher, but he had a crash mat. That's fine. But I know for a fact you're talking shit you've seen in the indies where jack shit is taken care of.
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you don't need a crash mat, just lots and lots of tables
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Oh, so you can land on the table, have one jagged piece pierce your back? Or maybe have it break wrong and drop you on your neck?

The first one has happened. The second one, I don't know, but it's a legitimate concern. Safety should ALWAYS come before a "cool spot". Anyone who would rather see someone risk their life with little to no safety has no respect for the business. That same thing goes for the ones preforming.

Wrestling isn't about falling from high places, I'm sorry.
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so xero you didn't cheer and 'go crazy' when mick foley bumped from the top of the cell and once more when he went through?
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When I was a kid, yeah. It was a good spot (don't consider that whole thing a match). It doesn't take away from the fact that it was ridiculously dangerous and shouldn't have been done. Foley was an idiot.

And the bump THROUGH the Cell was not supposed to happen and was a very bad bump.
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kareru, why are you such a moron?
i see, so people that don't agree with you or have a different opinion are morons?
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Old 10-06-2009, 05:16 PM   #35
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i see, so people that don't agree with you or have a different opinion are morons?
No, people who think wrestlers should risk their lives to entertain shitheads like you are idiots.
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Old 10-06-2009, 05:18 PM   #36
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No, people who think wrestlers should risk their lives to entertain shitheads like you are idiots.
i don't make them do it, they can think for themselves

and you're the idiot for not appreciating when a wrestler does risk his life in the name of entertainment
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Old 10-06-2009, 05:23 PM   #38
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If some moronic modern art douchebag kills himself in the name of art I'm not going to applaud him for it. He's a fucking idiot.

Same concept applies here.
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ask yourself this.

how many wrestlers have died in the ring taking a regular move?

and how many have died taking a big bump/spot?
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The risk is too high when taking the big bump.
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